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Coals

Active Member
That is simply false in every way. Polls have Paul losing to Obama in a head to head match up in pretty much every credible poll. The average is Obama beating Paul by 7.7 points. Romney loses to Obama by 2.2 points. And nationally against the republican field Paul is in third-forth place depending on the poll.

Here is the proof

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

......WHEN ASKED WHO CAN FIX OUR ECONOMY! see, I have to start a new thread.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
......WHEN ASKED WHO CAN FIX OUR ECONOMY! see, I have to start a new thread.
Ok, but that's not you said. You just claimed he was winning against Obama. And it's still a worthless non-scientific poll which is completely meaningless.
 

deprave

New Member
Its funny how obama zomibes call Ron Paul supporters "cultist" yet we can write entire novels on why we support Ron Paul...and obama supporters got a few short sentences at best and treat him like he can do no wrong. Dan here understands the NDAA and yet somehow supports obama, How can you understand the NDAA and support Obama? How can you understand that Obama is funded by Goldman sachs, CFR/Tri-lateral commission approved, globalist, in favor of wars, continuing the drugs wars, continuation of the police state, in favor of ending the American Dream, in favorite of dictatorial powers, in favor of coproate person-hood, a man who does nothing to forward humanity...How can you favor this man over Ron Paul the next JFK or Abe Lincoln...How is obama a messiah? How can he blame republicans for his ills when he works alongside them, when he ignores the congress and works for the UN in favor of her majesty of Great Britain. Why? Are you part of the system?

No but you don't want to talk about Obama...You want to change the subject...

Obama is a crook and an enemy of humanity....and you support him so you should be ashamed..lets talk about that...lets talk about Mittens....and why you support these "people" vs Ron Paul.

Lets do a breakdown shall we...

Obama Presidency = Continued Drug War, Continued Corporate Reign, Political Lip service to the left that results in no relevant changes, continued wars, continued poverty, continued pollution, continued police state, continued economic crisis. In short: MORE CORRUPTION

Mittens Presidency = Same fucking thing except Lip Service to the right.
 

deprave

New Member
Did anyone see the debate last night....here is a summary:

romney: "i love america, Jobs, let me quote a song, Jobs and continue to avoid the confrontation while advocating goldman sachs as the answer, Jobs."

gingrich: "let's bomb the shit out of everyone"

perry: "let's reignite the iraq war "

santorum: "kill all gays and muslims"

hunstman: "我喜歡的陰莖"

ron paul: "im not here to make friends, this is how you fix the world. now wake the fuck up"


here is the Ron Paul highlights, the next debate is in 3.5 hours...here it is Ron Paul debates a handful of used car salesman:

[video=youtube;8fByaNBLYaU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fByaNBLYaU[/video]​
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Its funny how obama zomibes call Ron Paul supporters "cultist" yet we can write entire novels on why we support Ron Paul...and obama supporters got a few short sentences at best and treat him like he can do no wrong.
That's complete bullshit. Most Obama supporters are supporting him because he's the best of a bunch of bad options. Many Ron Paul supporters will believe Ron Paul's words over actual reality and support Ron Paul on every single thing he's ever done or said. Independent thought has gone out the window entirely. It's cult like behavior. Obama "supporters" are not behaving that way.

Dan here understands the NDAA and yet somehow supports obama, How can you understand the NDAA and support Obama?
Because with all of his faults, he's still better than any other option.

How can you understand that Obama is funded by Goldman sachs
Ron Paul has taken money from them too. The difference there being that Goldman Sachs haven't offered him as much money because he's not a viable candidate. Why through money away on a loser like Ron Paul? Paul's policies of financial deregulation are a Goldman Sachs wet dream. If they thought he was for real, they'd be donating to him too.

How can you favor this man over Ron Paul the next JFK or Abe Lincoln...
Thanks for the laugh.

How can he blame republicans for his ills when he works alongside them,
You must be really high right now. Your ignorance is astounding.

Obama is a crook and an enemy of humanity....
All politicians are crooks, Ron Paul included. Ron Paul is worth about $5 million dollars. You think he made that money delivering babies or from his congressional salary? lol. GTFO. He's just as much of a crook as the rest of them. The exception to the rule is Joe Biden who's got a net worth of less than $200k.
 

deprave

New Member
Ron Paul has not taken money from goldman sachs, you can't just make stuff up as you go dan, your whole post if full of fallacies, and further its not just that Obama takes money from them, he appoints them to his staff...Just one example he appointed Tim Geitner, former goldman sachs ceo in charge of Tresury.............Ask Yourself...Why did he put the very people that deregulated the financial industry were put in charge of regulating the financial industry by King Obama? How can you expect them to regulate themselves? Why are people in bed with the bankers and Wall street in the obama administration? It is really sickening that there is all of these connections yet Obama insiniuates that he is for "main st not wall st"...Why does he work for Wall st then?

Follow the money Dan, because you obviously haven't. Funnilly enough Mittens is funded by the exact same corporations, its reall a win/win for corruption in Obama or Romney they can't possibly lose, all of the other canididates are in the same club also, except for one man and thats Ron Paul. This is not some sort of delusion this is based on facts and following the money and connections.

Dan if you could prove to me Ron Paul took money from goldman sachs, or any of the establishment...big oil, big pharma...anything..I would totally reconsider my vote for Ron Paul...but the fact is that its just not true and this is one of the primary reasons I support Dr Paul because the establishment crooks DO NOT WANT HIM......NO MATTER HOW POPULAR HE BECOMES...HE IS A THREAT TO THEIR PROFITS..its not about a popularity contest here...he is a threat to them and they will not back him, he is a threat to their corruption...
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul has not taken money from goldman sachs, you can't just make stuff up as you go dan, [
http://watchdog.net/p/ron_paul/contrib-employers



So there you go. Not a lot of money, but then again Ron Paul isn't much of a candidate, so giving him more would be a waste. If Ron Paul was viable, Goldman Sachs would be giving him a ton of cash. But why would they want to give a ton of cash to a loser?

your whole post if full of fallacies,
Actually it's not, you just don't want to believe these things about your lord and savior.

and further its not just that Obama takes money from them, he appoints them to his staff...
As would Ron Paul if he were president. It's easy to have high morals when you're a political joke. I doubt Ron Paul could even get a meeting with a Goldman Sachs VP, let alone hire one.

Just one example he appointed Tim Geitner, former goldman sachs ceo in charge of Tresury.............Ask Yourself...Why did he put the very people that deregulated the financial industry were put in charge of regulating the financial industry by King Obama?
Well it's president Obama, not king Obama. A king is a form of autocrat who gained power through nepotism. Obama is the democratically elected president of the United States.

The fact is that Ron Paul would give Goldman Sachs every thing they ever wanted. Deregulation and no limitations on profits. So as much as I'm disappointed in the way Obama has dealt with Goldman Sachs, Paul would be 10000000 times worse.

Follow the money Dan, because you obviously haven't.
Actually I have. But your complete and total ignorance isn't allowing you to see that. You don't even really understand what Ron Paul is advocating, which is something I find truly bizarre. All you know is that he's your glorious leader and you should blindly support anything he's ever said or done.

Read the letter Paul wrote about Gramm-Leech-Bliley. It's scary stuff. He voted against it because it was too restrictive. lol. That's insane.
 

deprave

New Member
http://watchdog.net/p/ron_paul/contrib-employers



So there you go. Not a lot of money, but then again Ron Paul isn't much of a candidate, so giving him more would be a waste. If Ron Paul was viable, Goldman Sachs would be giving him a ton of cash. But why would they want to give a ton of cash to a loser?



Actually it's not, you just don't want to believe these things about your lord and savior.



As would Ron Paul if he were president. It's easy to have high morals when you're a political joke. I doubt Ron Paul could even get a meeting with a Goldman Sachs VP, let alone hire one.



Well it's president Obama, not king Obama. A king is a form of autocrat who gained power through nepotism. Obama is the democratically elected president of the United States.

The fact is that Ron Paul would give Goldman Sachs every thing they ever wanted. Deregulation and no limitations on profits. So as much as I'm disappointed in the way Obama has dealt with Goldman Sachs, Paul would be 10000000 times worse.



Actually I have. But your complete and total ignorance isn't allowing you to see that. You don't even really understand what Ron Paul is advocating, which is something I find truly bizarre. All you know is that he's your glorious leader and you should blindly support anything he's ever said or done.

Read the letter Paul wrote about Gramm-Leech-Bliley. It's scary stuff. He voted against it because it was too restrictive. lol. That's insane.
better check your source there, its not on the federal elections comissions dating back to 1979, opensecrets, or anything else..only on that one page mysteriously. I am not going to sit and explain to you the difference between anarchy and libertarianism again...nor how that compares with Ron Paul...You obviously don't understand either libertarianism, free markets, or Ron Paul's philosophy and I am not going to waste my time typing it to you properly. I am already done with you on this for over a year now, your too stubborn and big headed to learn about it or actually listen.

Id like to see you explain how Obama's NDAA supreme police state facist corporatist policies are a good direction for this country rather than just go after Ron Paul about shit you don't even understand.
 

RyanTheRhino

Well-Known Member
Just some N.H locals

<br>[video=youtube;XUqSHjBj_xc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=XUqSHjBj_xc[/video]
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Its funny how obama zomibes call Ron Paul supporters "cultist" yet we can write entire novels on why we support Ron Paul...and obama supporters got a few short sentences at best and treat him like he can do no wrong. Dan here understands the NDAA and yet somehow supports obama, How can you understand the NDAA and support Obama? How can you understand that Obama is funded by Goldman sachs, CFR/Tri-lateral commission approved, globalist, in favor of wars, continuing the drugs wars, continuation of the police state, in favor of ending the American Dream, in favorite of dictatorial powers, in favor of coproate person-hood, a man who does nothing to forward humanity...How can you favor this man over Ron Paul the next JFK or Abe Lincoln...How is obama a messiah? How can he blame republicans for his ills when he works alongside them, when he ignores the congress and works for the UN in favor of her majesty of Great Britain. Why? Are you part of the system?

No but you don't want to talk about Obama...You want to change the subject...

Obama is a crook and an enemy of humanity....and you support him so you should be ashamed..lets talk about that...lets talk about Mittens....and why you support these "people" vs Ron Paul.

Lets do a breakdown shall we...

Obama Presidency = Continued Drug War, Continued Corporate Reign, Political Lip service to the left that results in no relevant changes, continued wars, continued poverty, continued pollution, continued police state, continued economic crisis. In short: MORE CORRUPTION

Mittens Presidency = Same fucking thing except Lip Service to the right.
Great post!!!
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
He could return the funds... Campaigns do that all the time.

So if you stumbled across a drug deal gone bad and everyone is laying there dead, you are basically saying you wouldn't take the money because it's "drug money" or from a bad source.



Fuck that, I'd put my kids through college with it, use it for something good. And thats why I support Ron Paul keeping all the money donated to his campaign because he's using it for what he stands for.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
So if you stumbled across a drug deal gone bad and everyone is laying there dead, you are basically saying you wouldn't take the money because it's "drug money" or from a bad source.



Fuck that, I'd put my kids through college with it, use it for something good. And thats why I support Ron Paul keeping all the money donated to his campaign because he's using it for what he stands for.
Based on your.... logic... You should support every candidate that accepts any amount of money as long as he says that he is against the people he is taking it from.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
Based on your.... logic... You should support every candidate that accepts any amount of money as long as he says that he is against the people he is taking it from.


No, I said as long as they use it for what they stand for, then where it comes from is irrelavent. So if Ron Paul is elected and he does what he says he will do, then even if the most fucked up organizations donated to his campaign, it doesn't matter because Ron Paul did what Ron Paul said he was going to do.

Nice try though.
 

fognog2

Member
Bottom line if you are a marijuana smoker you should VOTE FOR RON PAUL! This is probably the only chance we will have to end prohibition for a long time to come!
 
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