Why does everybody hate on Arjan the King of Cannabis so much?

Legalize Nature

Active Member
He's won the most Cannabis Cups = King of Cannabis

People bring up conspiracy theories and say he's buying them out, but these are probably the same people who believe in alien abduction and the Jews were behind 9/11.

So why all the hate? Jealousy?

Thanks.
 

somepotname

Active Member
If you pay enough money you get to vote for the best strain at the cannabis cup. He pays for a bunch of people to come and vote for him. He's still really good at what he does but I'm tired of hearing people talk about his strains like cannabis begins and ends with whatever Arjan produces. A lot of other great breeders out there and a lot of cannabis better than what Arjan produces.
 

brimck325

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needless to say what he,s done to many villages, destroying there cannabis strains....he,s a greedy scumbag....peace
 

SCARHOLE

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All pro breeders do it for the money an fame?

I think most hate on him to be cool an fit in.

But some of us tried GHS and didn't like em.
 

LIVE2GRO

Active Member
ya thats wat i heard.. he pays for votes.. and he just goes around the world grabbing seeds.. and growing out some .. and just crossing 2 nice ones.. instead of what delta 9 labs .. if u see the guy grows out a strain. finds the one he wants.. find the male he wants.. and then pollinates.. and then grows out EVERYSINGLE SEED from the plant.. and takes the 2 best females.. that dont have the herm tendency and crosses making feminizd seeds that tend to be of amazing quality.. i have a buddy who doesnt grow anything besides delta 9.. me on the otherhand.. i havent grown any of them.. i ordered a couple green house seeds.. i think Franco.. is in it for the Love.. and Arjan is in it for the Money .. and it shows.. which is to bad.. cause he pretty much walks around like his shit dont stink.. and some of his strains are garbage.. STRAIGHT GARBAGE. see thing is with Arjan is once feminized seeds came around.. he hopped on the train.. and allot of people that hoard strains are actually pumped about fem seeds cause it wiill just hermi for the new growers cause stress.. and cause seeds andthe genetics will all get watered down. and wen its legal.. they will have the good genetics.. and sell em for top dollar. iunno i guess i could be rong.. but from wat it looks like greenhouose is focusing on stressing females and shit.. instead of working with males.. .. could be rong for sure but iuno i am going o get reg seeds and make my own crosses and use those.. and get new seesd wen i need from the tude.. but i am working on gettn as many landraCES as possible and making my own versions of the strains others have made. and then my own strains. id love to become a breeder and a seed company.. at some point.. but its going to take time and money. so we wil lsee wat happens.. but i am reading a couple breeding books.. so hopefully it works out..
 

2layz2p

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I might be the odd ball....but I like GHS, it's just marketing, it's a cut throat world that's for sure.
 

2layz2p

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ya thats wat i heard.. he pays for votes.. and he just goes around the world grabbing seeds.. and growing out some .. and just crossing 2 nice ones.. instead of what delta 9 labs .. if u see the guy grows out a strain. finds the one he wants.. find the male he wants.. and then pollinates.. and then grows out EVERYSINGLE SEED from the plant.. and takes the 2 best females.. that dont have the herm tendency and crosses making feminizd seeds that tend to be of amazing quality.. i have a buddy who doesnt grow anything besides delta 9.. me on the otherhand.. i havent grown any of them.. i ordered a couple green house seeds.. i think Franco.. is in it for the Love.. and Arjan is in it for the Money .. and it shows.. which is to bad.. cause he pretty much walks around like his shit dont stink.. and some of his strains are garbage.. STRAIGHT GARBAGE. see thing is with Arjan is once feminized seeds came around.. he hopped on the train.. and allot of people that hoard strains are actually pumped about fem seeds cause it wiill just hermi for the new growers cause stress.. and cause seeds andthe genetics will all get watered down. and wen its legal.. they will have the good genetics.. and sell em for top dollar. iunno i guess i could be rong.. but from wat it looks like greenhouose is focusing on stressing females and shit.. instead of working with males.. .. could be rong for sure but iuno i am going o get reg seeds and make my own crosses and use those.. and get new seesd wen i need from the tude.. but i am working on gettn as many landraCES as possible and making my own versions of the strains others have made. and then my own strains. id love to become a breeder and a seed company.. at some point.. but its going to take time and money. so we wil lsee wat happens.. but i am reading a couple breeding books.. so hopefully it works out..
This popped up at the same time I placed my post, so I wanted to elaborate a little more....
I think a lot of people do the grab n grow, if you look at the strains and see the crosses... come on, how many versions of white widow are there, do you really think no other people do this.

I bet the doggies nuts have some of GHS strains! it's all about the $$$ or all breeders would just play around for them self's...but why not make a living off something you like anyway.

I have grown a lot of seeds, most are "fem", I have only seen one nanner, it was on a pineapple express. sure a few get away...as I have had a bean or so in dry bud, but not enough to make me stop using fem seeds!

I look at my plants every day, It's my love, and looking for beans is part of the hobby.

I have a pk of REG beans going at this time, I don't like the amount of room they take up, just so I can kill 1/2 later... However there are a few super nice ones, if they are male I may just make some F1's....... but I would still buy fems. JMO

people cant just go by what other people say, you need to do the research for ur self!

One of my "mentors" is Uncle Ben, as he said...most of this stuff on theses sites, hurt more then help people.

Know what...I was thinking of doing a journal anyway, I'm going to make some enemy's, but I don't care, pretty long line to stand in of people that don't like me, including my wife.

Im going to run GHS just to see the out come over some other beans of the same strain, all organic maybe sub's forgot, (sub's on a lot of peoples shit list also LOL) or vics soil. have to make a second attitude order anyway.
 

NiKEUS

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the problem with ghs are not the amount of cups won, its the quality of the purchased product, the problem is not just new growers are saying the quality is poor in general with the final result its experienced ones too.
I don't care if some one has won a 100 cannabis cups or none, it's the product I buy from them that concerns me, I think that's the view of many and to put down everyone who dislikes there products in the category of jealous.
However, I got a feeling that this is a bait thread for some trolling.
 

Ravenchild

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Best way to know is experience urself yes alot of people hate but a few of them can be good
I've growin king kush twice it was easy and good for me hell plan on running it again now
the rest I don't think I wanna try except the white widow everyone would say get Mr.Nice
cuz ghs stole it so if he stole it it would be the same to me that's like the Hawaiian widow reading its the same widow
 

JCashman

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He's won the most Cannabis Cups = King of Cannabis
People bring up conspiracy theories and say he's buying them out, but these are probably the same people who believe in alien abduction and the Jews were behind 9/11.
So why all the hate? Jealousy?
Thanks.
all the cups that GHSC won during the 90s was thanks to Shanti, the GHSC breeder at the time. i could be wrong but i believe Neville was working with them during this time too. after Shanti and Arjan split up, Shanti and Neville started breeding for their new company, Mr Nice Seeds. Arjan is not a breeder, period. hes a marketing propagandist that spreads blatant bullshit inth the cannacommunity. if you doubt that at all, go watch 5 different videos of Arjan (no not those lame strain hunter vids, go look up interviews where he talks about "his" plants) and i assure you that you will catch him lying to you.

People also hate on Arjan because he claims to have created strains that were actually created by Shanti, ie: the original White Widow (now called Black Widow due to all the fakers and scammers selling knockoff versions of White Widow).

as far as bribery and conspiracies surrounding the cannabis cup, heres a fun fact for you. Arjan was actually caught bribing judges and not allowed to participate that year. so again, your post shows you have never bothered to gather any info on these garbage theories of yours.

so to sum up "why all the hate" it's because hes a scamming, lying, bribing, piece of shit that takes credit for other peoples hard work. if you had bothered to research the topic at all, you'd already know this.

but hey no worries, you can go get yourself a Arjan bobblehead if you still want to support them, because one thing Arjan does do well is pump out merchandise like bobbleheads and ashtrays. the guy should just start a wal-mart and leave the cannabusiness to actual breeders that know what they are doing.

<3
 

JCashman

Well-Known Member
Best way to know is experience urself yes alot of people hate but a few of them can be good
I've growin king kush twice it was easy and good for me hell plan on running it again now
the rest I don't think I wanna try except the white widow everyone would say get Mr.Nice
cuz ghs stole it so if he stole it it would be the same to me that's like the Hawaiian widow reading its the same widow
Arjan lost the true white widow (as well as a few others) when he lost Shanti. the only way Arjan could have the real widow would be if he bought a pack from Shanti(Mr Nice Seeds) and then grew out that pack, crossed a male and female, and made a new gen of seeds. but Shanti took his mothers and studs with him when he left GHSC.

so to clarify, GHSC didn't "steal" white widow. they lost it ;)
 

taipanspunk

Active Member
I think it's more of the history...

GHS then is very different than the GHS today. In the beginning, GHS was in heavy controversy for taking and commercializing white widow name from mr. Nice seeds (black widow is what it's now called there). GHS' inventory consisted of phenos they bought from other breeders to cross.

...now? They travel around the world searching for new strains, have their own sorting machine, and even their line of powder nutes (coming out)...
 

heyYousGuys

New Member
So it's jealousy... Ok.
LMAO. Why does someone always say that shit just because others don't like it. If someone doesn't like a certain singer, or actor, or in the case a lying douchebag, IT'S JEALOUSY?
Example:
I hate Rhianna as a singer, I've been told I'm jealous. Seriously. No ya cunts, I hate her because she can't even write her own music and doesn't even know how to play an instrument, but yet she calls herself a rockstar.

If jealousy was the case in the world of weed, then EVERYONE would hate Shanti & Neville, Subcool, Bhodi, Tom Hill, Sannie's, etc. BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY BREED GREAT GENETICS AND DON'T ASK FOR PRAISE. Nor do they call themselves the "King of Cannabis" LOL.
Like others have said, Arjan took other's genetics and claimed them as his own. That's why he is hated. A guy can win the cup every year for all I care, but if he didn't create those strains, I don't respect him.
 

althor

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Post #12 says it all and is more than enough reason to not idolize Arjan. If the rumors are true, that he sabotages landrace cannibas then there is nothing redeeming about him. I want to disbelieve the rumors though. Surely he would understand the importance of landrace strains growing in their proper environment.
 

tip top toker

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From the content of the OP i don't think this person is here to actually acknowledged any legitimate answers ;) He seems to have his mind firmly made up on what is what.
 

Unnk

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lol exactly he can continue to support that hack but his seeds are garbage and so is he
 

Bad Karma

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Lets not forget about the new generation of "Arjan's" out there, like Swerve.
He was accused of selling hermie/auto prone genetics and shrugged it off once.
Those accusations came flooding back over the last few months, along with accusations from a business partner.
Swerve responded on this board, made himself look extremely foolish, then has the mods delete those threads.
Then low and behold, who "wins" a Cannabis cup, Swerve of Cali Connections for Tahoe OG.
I've had top shelf Tahoe OG a few times now and have not been impressed with it (IMHO).
Swerve bought his cup to help sell his overpriced and questionable genetics, just like his role model Arjan did.
History repeats its self again.
 

HungryMan420

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Man fuck GHS there a joke arjan is a buster I wouldent grow a GHS if my life depended on it!! way better seed companys like Gage green Genetics!! and as far as Swerve I have alot of his gear and i have been a part of his Forum and he still wont let me post a grow journal!! he ignores me every time i ask for the permission to post my grow journal still no answer i stoped going on the forum!! Plus Gage Green Genetics asked me to test there gear!! So I said fuck any seed company and there owner that cant take the time out of there so called busy life to help a few Forum members out with sum answers!!
 
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