+Rep for any Answers! Trichs Question(no pics needed)

irish519

irish519

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My auto afghan kush plants are almost ready by the looks of it, when i zoom into view the trichomes with a microscope they are all extremely cloudy almost looks like there glowing white.


My question is, Will my buds get me really high if i harvest now?(Drying and curing the correct way of course) Or should i wait untill the trichs turn amber? All of the pistils/hairs have turned orange apart from a few.

If i harvest at cloudy trichomes, do the afghan kush buds still live up to there knock-out stone 21% thc reputation? Or will it be just weak........:-?

(And i have a very high tolerance so i'm not looking for a little buzz!)
 
thc&me

thc&me

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It really depends on your particular taste. If you want something that will give you a cerebral rush, harvest when the trichomes are clear to cloudy. If you're looking for more of a couch-lock/nap time stone, then let the trichs get about 60-70% amber before harvesting. Clear trichomes are practically pure THC. Once the THC begins to degrade, the trichs will look cloudy. When they turn amber, the THC has been turned into CBD which produces the couch-lock stone.
 
irish519

irish519

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thc&me said:
It really depends on your particular taste. If you want something that will give you a cerebral rush, harvest when the trichomes are clear to cloudy. If you're looking for more of a couch-lock/nap time stone, then let the trichs get about 60-70% amber before harvesting. Clear trichomes are practically pure THC. Once the THC begins to degrade, the trichs will look cloudy. When they turn amber, the THC has been turned into CBD which produces the couch-lock stone.
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I take it you are talking from experience of previous harvests? So if i was to harvest the plants now and try them the correct way, i wouldnt be let down by the high the buds will give me? Asin will the 21% thc still do its job and get me high, not leave me wanting to smoke more.....
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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U want milky/cloudy looking trichomes all the way,amber trichs are nice for couchlock but it is a sign of the degrading thc in the the bud.It is preference based,i think if u had some pics it would help out here.If u r going for the amber trichs i personaly recomend only 20-30 % of all the trichs be amber per bud this should get the desired results.
 
Illegal Smile

Illegal Smile

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If you have predominately cloudy trichs, I guarantee you there are plenty of amber ones even though you may not have located them yet. You could give it another week, but I don't think I would.
 
prep1801

prep1801

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Clear = close, but no good. Milky = peak THC. Amber = past peak... a bit more ripe... a bit more "tired" high. It's all about preference. All milky is a good place to start. Peak THC occurs when all the trichs are cloudy.

Also, be careful of what type of light you are viewing the trichs under. If you are in your growing room, with your grow light on, clear trichs could look cloudy or amber.
 
irish519

irish519

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Dislexicmidget2021 said:
U want milky/cloudy looking trichomes all the way,amber trichs are nice for couchlock but it is a sign of the degrading thc in the the bud.It is preference based,i think if u had some pics it would help out here.If u r going for the amber trichs i personaly recomend only 20-30 % of all the trichs be amber per bud this should get the desired results.
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Are u speaking from expereince? It would really reassure me if someone knew this from harvesting at different times.
 
Icannabis

Icannabis

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Go ahead and harvest now if all the tri's are cloudy...if all the hairs are amber and the tri's are cloudy its a good time to harvest and I've harvested at every stage and i harvest when I see cloudy trichomes on indica dominate strains...just cure them up and you'll be sailing away...:joint:
 
nick17gar

nick17gar

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^ i try to stay at 75% cloudy, 25% amber. i like the energetic head high, with a lil couch lock, haha but thats just me, as long as they arent clear, you can harvest (and youve gotten rid of nutrients, etc etc)

realy depends what kind of smoke ya want
 
weedworm

weedworm

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I prefer more amber trichs but that's mostly because I usually smoke in the evening and at night and yes its all a preference cloudy= more uplifting energetic Amber= couchlock lol
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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The capitate-stalked glandular trichome changes color as it matures. Newly formed and immature glands are clear, glands reaching optimum THC production are cloudy or milky and amber trichomes have already passed their peak. By looking at the trichomes you can also determine the best time to harvest your plants. When most trichomes have gone cloudy and a few amber ones have appeared, the plant is at its peak.



THC BIOSYNTHESIS




CANNABINOL (CBN)




Cannabinol is the primary degradation product of THC and increases in concentration with plant age. The concentration of this product in the bud is heavily dependent on the time of harvest. Harvesting the bud at a late stage also means that the concentration of CBN in relation to THC will be higher when compared to the peak of THC production. CBN is only mildly psychoactive and can cause "fuzzy head", drowsiness, disorientation and sleepiness in the smoker, properties that can be considered unpleasant in nature compared to the clear high of the THC.
 
GunRunner

GunRunner

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I'd go 50/50 - Milky / Amber before I'd give'm the CHOP!
Uplifting head high followed by a calming couch-lock for a more lasting effect is what I look for in my weed.

But I'm sure somebody already answered like that :P
 
Jack Harer

Jack Harer

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I too, speak from experience, and I also shoot for a 50/50 mix. But be aware that some strains will not go amber!! I have let my JH and NL go a LOOOONG time and never saw an amber trich. I grow almost exclusively Sats, so I cant say for sure about Indicas, but the strains I grew were 75/25 hybrids (Sat/Indica)
 
wyteboi

wyteboi

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irish519 said:
I take it you are talking from experience of previous harvests? So if i was to harvest the plants now and try them the correct way, i wouldnt be let down by the high the buds will give me? Asin will the 21% thc still do its job and get me high, not leave me wanting to smoke more.....
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everybody that has responded has been right on , wether it was from experience or not..... thats science.

i dont care for the couch lock so i like to get um when you cant see any amber yet. .....thats just me.

the 21% thc part is science too. your plant is not gonna be 21 percent ..... its gonna be higher or lower because your environment is different from others , but you can take a guess , if they are super healthy , nice and fat , and trics on top of trics then its gonna be very close to 21.

if you just wanna fuck around to get a better guess , then 10 grams of dried pot should get you 2 grams of hash. (thats 20%) its not accurate but if you make hash , you can get a good idea.

the only afghan i had wasnt auto nor was it kush , but it was definatly 20% or better. it was by FAR the best ive grown in my decades of experience.
ANYTHING with 15% or higher should rip you .... if it doesnt you gotta back off for a couple days :eyesmoke:







soil bongsmilie
 
James87

James87

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thc&me said:
It really depends on your particular taste. If you want something that will give you a cerebral rush, harvest when the trichomes are clear to cloudy. If you're looking for more of a couch-lock/nap time stone, then let the trichs get about 60-70% amber before harvesting. Clear trichomes are practically pure THC. Once the THC begins to degrade, the trichs will look cloudy. When they turn amber, the THC has been turned into CBD which produces the couch-lock stone.
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Actually its CBD that turns into THC. The turpenes and phenols in head of the trichomes combine to form CBC and CBG. CBG turns into CBD, and CBD turns into THC. This is why curing is so important.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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James87 said:
Actually its CBD that turns into THC. The turpenes and phenols in head of the trichomes combine to form CBC and CBG. CBG turns into CBD, and CBD turns into THC.
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Really?



THC BIOSYNTHESIS















It is known that cannabinoids such as THC are originally
generated in acidic forms. In fresh tissues, the concentration of
THC is much lower than that of Δ1-tetrahydrocannabinolic acid
(THCA). THCA is later decarboxylated by a non-enzymatic
reaction during storage or smoking (Yamauchi et al. 1967).
Despite the long history of marijuana research, the cannabinoid
biosynthetic pathway was elucidated only recently. Studies
on biosynthetic enzymes over the last decade have revealed
the THCA biosynthetic pathway as shown in Fig. 1. Cannabigerolic
acid (CBGA), a precursor of THCA, is the product of
the alkylation of olivetolic acid with geranyl pyrophosphate by
an enzyme called geranylpyrophosphate:olivatolate geranyltransferase
(Fellermeier and Zenk 1998). Then, CBGA is converted
into THCA by a novel enzyme called THCA synthase
(Taura et al. 1995a). THCA synthase catalyzes a unique oxidative
cyclization of the geranyl group of CBGA. Recently, we
have successfully cloned THCA synthase and characterized its
structural and functional properties (Sirikantaramas et al.
2004). Biochemical characterization demonstrated that THCA
synthase is a flavinylated oxidase that requires molecular oxygen
and produces THCA and hydrogen peroxide. In addition,
we have already constructed transgenic tobacco hairy roots
expressing THCA synthase that can produce THCA upon feeding
of CBGA, suggesting a strategy for the biotechnological
production of THC (Sirikantaramas et al. 2004). However, the
metabolic engineering of the cannabinoid pathway requires a
detailed understanding of the biosynthetic mechanism including
regulation and trafficking of the enzymes involved in the
pathway. In this study, we describe the cell-specific localization
and possible physiological function of THCA synthase, the
enzyme responsible for THC production.




Fig. 1 Biosynthetic pathway of THC. CBGA is a product of the
alkylation of olivetolic acid with geranyl pyrophosphate. THCA
synthase catalyzes the oxidative cyclization of the monoterpene moiety
of CBGA to form THCA. THCA is decarboxylized to THC by a
non-enzymatic reaction. The responsible enzymes are: geranylpyrophosphate:
olivetolate geranyltransferase (1) and THCA synthase (2).
 
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