The Post Office...

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
My postal carrier twisted her ankle, she was on light duty for a year, the light duty would not let her move more than 2 miles per day, she would go workout at the gym and jog 1.9 miles there so all she could do at work was sit, since she was designated as a carrier all she did was sit in the lounge watching TV. This was mandated by the union they are in. This was related to me by the carrier that had to cover for her territory, he did his regular route and then hers on top of it. People were getting mail at 8 and 9 PM for a year.

The carrier we had when we lived in town was scared to death of dogs, I ended up moving my mailbox curbside since she wouldn't come near the house if my 11 pound dog was outside.
 

Carne Seca

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Everyone is forgetting WHY the postal service is in such dire straits. It seems no one remembers a little law that was passed by the GOP run Congress in 2006 that forces the Post Office to pay $5 billion per year toward future health benefits for retirees and forced to pay billions more into federal accounts for unforeseen health benefit hikes. A burden no other agency has to bear. The post office was stable before Congress dipped their little fingers into the till. It's just another effort to try and destroy organized labor. Congress created the problem, now they need to fix it.
 

Carne Seca

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My postal carrier twisted her ankle, she was on light duty for a year, the light duty would not let her move more than 2 miles per day, she would go workout at the gym and jog 1.9 miles there so all she could do at work was sit, since she was designated as a carrier all she did was sit in the lounge watching TV. This was mandated by the union they are in. This was related to me by the carrier that had to cover for her territory, he did his regular route and then hers on top of it. People were getting mail at 8 and 9 PM for a year.

The carrier we had when we lived in town was scared to death of dogs, I ended up moving my mailbox curbside since she wouldn't come near the house if my 11 pound dog was outside.
anecdotal bullshit.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
My postal carrier twisted her ankle, she was on light duty for a year, the light duty would not let her move more than 2 miles per day, she would go workout at the gym and jog 1.9 miles there so all she could do at work was sit, since she was designated as a carrier all she did was sit in the lounge watching TV. This was mandated by the union they are in. This was related to me by the carrier that had to cover for her territory, he did his regular route and then hers on top of it. People were getting mail at 8 and 9 PM for a year.

The carrier we had when we lived in town was scared to death of dogs, I ended up moving my mailbox curbside since she wouldn't come near the house if my 11 pound dog was outside.
Link ??? LOL could not help it
 

CEEJR

Well-Known Member
Raise the postal rate to a dollar a letter. That should solve the problem and with the amount of mail I send a dollar a letter would be no sweat off my balls.
The increased rate would also cut down on junk mail.
 

NoDrama

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Everyone is forgetting WHY the postal service is in such dire straits. It seems no one remembers a little law that was passed by the GOP run Congress in 2006 that forces the Post Office to pay $5 billion per year toward future health benefits for retirees and forced to pay billions more into federal accounts for unforeseen health benefit hikes. A burden no other agency has to bear. The post office was stable before Congress dipped their little fingers into the till. It's just another effort to try and destroy organized labor. Congress created the problem, now they need to fix it.
So you want the Post office to take away people's insurance. In other words you just want all postal employees to die, admit it.
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
So you want the Post office to take away people's insurance. In other words you just want all postal employees to die, admit it.
See people. This is how NoDrama thinks. He takes what he can twist to fit his agenda and completely ignores everything else. The Post Office was doing just fine with their benefits before Congress passed the law. It was just a maneuver to deplete the USPS surplus and cripple it. It worked.
 

canndo

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Everyone is forgetting WHY the postal service is in such dire straits. It seems no one remembers a little law that was passed by the GOP run Congress in 2006 that forces the Post Office to pay $5 billion per year toward future health benefits for retirees and forced to pay billions more into federal accounts for unforeseen health benefit hikes. A burden no other agency has to bear. The post office was stable before Congress dipped their little fingers into the till. It's just another effort to try and destroy organized labor. Congress created the problem, now they need to fix it.

If I recall, there is even more to it than that, isn't Congress actually using the bonds the post office buys to back pensions as collateral for more of their spending? Something like that? It is true that we really don't know if the post office is running at a deficit and how much because of all the machinations with funding, it is just very convenient to point to the Post Office as "proof" that the government can do nothing right.
 

Finshaggy

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If I recall, there is even more to it than that, isn't Congress actually using the bonds the post office buys to back pensions as collateral for more of their spending? Something like that? It is true that we really don't know if the post office is running at a deficit and how much because of all the machinations with funding, it is just very convenient to point to the Post Office as "proof" that the government can do nothing right.
Weather or not they are running on a deficit,
The post office general, or whatever he's called:
Was interview on Colbert, and I'm pretty sure on the news. And said, in the next 5 years, the post office will be gone without a bailout.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Weather or not they are running on a deficit,
The post office general, or whatever he's called:
Was interview on Colbert, and I'm pretty sure on the news. And said, in the next 5 years, the post office will be gone without a bailout.

They will get the bailout.
 

NoDrama

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See people. This is how NoDrama thinks. He takes what he can twist to fit his agenda and completely ignores everything else. The Post Office was doing just fine with their benefits before Congress passed the law. It was just a maneuver to deplete the USPS surplus and cripple it. It worked.
That isn't what I think, its what you think, you just are too obsessed with me to notice the double play.

I agree that the pre-funded health plan is stupid since it isn't really pre-funding a health plan but is a end run around for profligate spending by congress.


Some people don't know that the post office isn't run by the government.

The Post Office won't go away, too many legalities would exist that would cause all sorts of havoc. Having a post office is very much a function of our legal system. Many legal issues arise out of post marks and such, especially in contract law. They would also have to Amend the Constitution to get rid of it.
 

NLXSK1

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Things fundamentally have to change with the post office.

The amount of 1st class mail being delivered is diminishing every day and that mail used to subsidize all of the flyers and junk mail.

Now we are going toward the internet.

Just like we do not have the pony express anymore we will eventually not need physical mail for information.

I think the government should sell the contract to Fed Ex or UPS with the stipulation that they still have to deliver every parcel within 5 business days.

If the government could make a profit up to this point, another private carrier should be able to make it worthwhile.
 

WillyBagseed

Active Member
Post Office is going broke why.........

It has to stash 75 years worth of benefits and only has 10 years to do it......... Poison pill introduced by Bush Jr.

UPS and FEDEX are allowed to compete with the USPS but the USPS is not allowed to directly compete with either of them................

UPS is union like the USPS no issues there, FEDEX still gets breaks running as an airline or something along those lines, can't remember and not gonna look it up.

If all things were equal UPS and the USPS would be fine and fedex would die.

By the way, for the uninformed... UPS and FEDEX both depend on the USPS to deliver many parcels for them in rural areas..........
 

NoDrama

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Willyßagseed;6910436 said:
By the way, for the uninformed... UPS and FEDEX both depend on the USPS to deliver many parcels for them in rural areas..........
For free? Or does the Post office get paid by UPS/FEDEX to do it?
 

Ernst

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We should deal them into the Email and file transfer market..

Sure we tie their hands an say swim mf'er swim... ( Samuel Jackson voice )

They need to diversify...
 

NoDrama

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We should deal them into the Email and file transfer market..

Sure we tie their hands an say swim mf'er swim... ( Samuel Jackson voice )

They need to diversify...
they could probably make a killing delivering medical marijuana.
 

Finshaggy

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they could probably make a killing delivering medical marijuana.
Or just illegally distributing recreationally.

If the whole of the USPS was distributing, they would almost HAVE to legalize weed.
And they could put the legal tax stamps on it for us :D :D

Le Eme needs to invest :D
 

Parker

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anecdotal bullshit.
It's not bullshit. Late December 2010 mail was coming to my house after 6 pm. Was told too many are on vacation and the current person had to do their route and part of the vacation persons route.
That is what the problem is with government agencies. Even though the people mean well they are the only game in town, some know that too, so we are stuck. Options are always best.

I go out to eat and service is slow because too many are on vacation, or for whatever reason, I go somewhere else.
 
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