For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users
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hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
The 2 systems are the same just different buckets types but concepts the same, so post all you want is a open thread
Hydro daze
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Ph drifting up everyday!ph will go from 5.5-6.4! I'm running 32 buckets in 4x8 tent second week veg. Full 55 gallon res. Using heavy 16 veg and liquid karma+h2o2 ppms at 600.Water temp 72-74. Air temp 82-84 light on- 72-74 light off. Rh 39%. Co2! Anyone else have to ph every day? My mom tent (8 buckets) seems to be alot mote stable. I ph it every 3 days! So I think it's the fact that I'm running more buckets on that res and there for ph rises faster!? Any ideas?
Hydro daze
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Any heavy16 users having same problem as above?
Refusedpanda
Active Member
hydro daze, sounds like you're running tap water. right? if yes, that is why it rises every day. buffers in your tap water. I would get a RO system.
Hydro daze
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Nope, using RO water! After running water thru RO waters at 30 ppms ph at 6.6! Thanks for the quick reply! Any other recommendations?
Warlock1369
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I use heavy 16 and RO water in my 15 site flo n grow. No big drift 5.5-6.0 so it's within my range. But I don't use H2o2 so maybe with that's it. But with 34 sites I'm gonna say your ph is gonna flex.
Hydro daze
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32 sites must be the issue! Only need the healthiest 24 for flower! Think it about time to get it down to around 26 and see if that helps! This is my first round with heavy 16 and it seems like u got to stay on top of the ph a little more!Hey warlock how many time u run heavy 16? U like ? Heard good things but it's hard to beat dyno gro! We will see!
Warlock1369
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I'm on my 4th full grow. I've tryed alot of others and this is great IMO. Alot less to worry about and cleaning my tank is easyer then ever. Plus I get almost 2 grows out of 1 set and only need to add 2 supplements. I'm not going to change.
Hydro daze
Active Member
Sounds good! What supplements you using!I'm running liquid karma in veg and plan on big bud and overdrive in flower!
bowlfullofbliss
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The upward drift will slow down after a couple of weeks. It's the hydroton, it has a high PH, so the runoff is obviously higher. I check my PH in the morning and in the evening, every single day.....you can't skip a day. It only takes 5 tsp or so to knock down my res with 40 gallons. I suggest making it easy on your self and buy a paint mixing bit for a high speed drill, it really mixes things up fast and easy. The ph will stabolize, just have to watch it. If you can afford the time at the beginning of your next run, try filling the res, with the pots full of the hydroton up to the water line in the pots, and fill and drain for a couple of days with low ph, it helps to get the clay prepped for the nutes.
I use well water BTW, which also has a high natural PH of over 8.
I use well water BTW, which also has a high natural PH of over 8.
Warlock1369
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I'm useing hygrozyme and liquid karma thru out the grow. And sence I'm using RO water I need N-cal-mag by grow more. In flower I also add open sesame, beastie bloomz, and cha ching. Not needed but I like it.
Hydro daze
Active Member
this makes sense since this is some of my newer clay! seems that around 3ml of ph down a day keeps it in check!
Hydro daze
Active Member
if i dont see improvements with heavy 16 back to dyno gro
babysas
Active Member
after reading some more,i think its the pro-tekt that that keeps the ph in check...
Hydro daze
Active Member
So u think it's the pro tek that keeps the ph in check! I'll check into that!
jakeman311
Active Member
These things are poorly engineered piece of sh*t. Im on my 6th run in a particular room right now this P.O.S. and Im already regretting setting this disaster waiting to happen up. Ive tinkered, toyed, experimented and ran tests on every freaking thing you can do and add with this system and every time it is a high maintenance piece of shit. I been through 3 controller buckets because they keep failing. Yes they warranty them but unless you buy a back up (which i have) it takes 2-3 weeks to get it back. Also the pumps that come with them are garbage if anyone is still using them upgrade to maxi-pumps before they fail on you in the middle of the night and drown your plants. But if you lik f*cking with stuff and constantly fixing problems this is the system for you lol
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Number one thing to look at when having huge ph swing! Are water temp, then check your roots for brown slime
Or root rot!, bad bactiria causes ph to rise in large swings. You can look into using h202 or bleach, zone, sm90!
Or zyme products, All of these will help but its just a bandaid. Brew bennys in compost teas is in my opion the
best option! I used to have these ph issue but not anymore, with tea i can set it at 5.6 and not have to adjust for
4 to 5 days when it gets to 6.0. Having a small amount of swing is important to plants, it allows them to uptake
Different things it need at different times.
Or root rot!, bad bactiria causes ph to rise in large swings. You can look into using h202 or bleach, zone, sm90!
Or zyme products, All of these will help but its just a bandaid. Brew bennys in compost teas is in my opion the
best option! I used to have these ph issue but not anymore, with tea i can set it at 5.6 and not have to adjust for
4 to 5 days when it gets to 6.0. Having a small amount of swing is important to plants, it allows them to uptake
Different things it need at different times.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Wow bro seem you had a bad streak with these systems, me and alot of others kill it in it! And as for labour
Lol i spent 15 min. A day doing a check on stuff then roll out! And ive got x3 ebbs starting from the very
First version! But i sounds like its not for you!