Obama: Don't bite off what you can't chew!

[sync0s]

The second bomb was dropped after the Japanese government surrendered, it was not to avoid a land war.

Not exactly true. Supposedly Truman was fearful that the Japanese would surrender to the Russians, so we dropped the second nuke.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Not exactly true. Supposedly Truman was fearful that the Japanese would surrender to the Russians, so we dropped the second nuke.

I talked to a member of the Manhatten Project and a Japanese language historian.

The Manhatten Project member said he was there personally, Truman told off the scientists saying, "I don't want to show the fucking Japs a test. I don't care if they will surrender. They want to do a bombing, I'll show them a real bombing." The guy was crying like a baby telling me the story. He was ashamed of helping develop the bomb.

The language historian told me the emperor told Truman he humbly surrendered after the first bomb, but Truman took it as an insult and being mocked. Since you can translate honorific humble language from the emperor as mocking, since he never uses it. A honorable man would have found out if the surrender was sincere before doing a second bomb. Truman only cared about revenge.

Truman was a stupid piece of shit haberdasher. He was our worst president and a mass murderer.

 

[fenderburn84]

I talked to a member of the Manhatten Project and a Japanese language historian.

The Manhatten Project member said he was there personally, Truman told off the scientists saying, "I don't want to show the fucking Japs a test. I don't care if they will surrender. They want to do a bombing, I'll show them a real bombing." The guy was crying like a baby telling me the story. He was ashamed of helping develop the bomb.

The language historian told me the emperor told Truman he humbly surrendered after the first bomb, but Truman took it as an insult and being mocked. Since you can translate honorific humble language from the emperor as mocking, since he never uses it. A honorable man would have found out if the surrender was sincere before doing a second bomb. Truman only cared about revenge.

Truman was a stupid piece of shit haberdasher. He was our worst president and a mass murderer.

That's the story I've always heard.

 

[fenderburn84]

Here's a link:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

 

[sync0s]

I talked to a member of the Manhatten Project and a Japanese language historian.

The Manhatten Project member said he was there personally, Truman told off the scientists saying, "I don't want to show the fucking Japs a test. I don't care if they will surrender. They want to do a bombing, I'll show them a real bombing." The guy was crying like a baby telling me the story. He was ashamed of helping develop the bomb.

The language historian told me the emperor told Truman he humbly surrendered after the first bomb, but Truman took it as an insult and being mocked. Since you can translate honorific humble language from the emperor as mocking, since he never uses it. A honorable man would have found out if the surrender was sincere before doing a second bomb. Truman only cared about revenge.

Truman was a stupid piece of shit haberdasher. He was our worst president and a mass murderer.

Hearsay, but I'll accept your premise.

I wouldn't feel bad about developing it. The Germans were developing it.

I'd feel more bad about people like Louis Slotin.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Hearsay, but I'll accept your premise.

I wouldn't feel bad about developing it. The Germans were developing it.

I'd feel more bad about people like Louis Slotin.

This is him:

http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/about_occ/news/Orange+Slices.htm?Id=10341

" The scientists decided that the bomb should not be dropped.

'We suggested that the weapon be used to intimidate the Japanese into surrendering. We could give them a demonstration of its awesome power. Their own physicists – many of whom had been educated at Berkeley – would tell the Japanese leadership that you can’t resist this sort of thing. There isn’t a facile answer for survival.'

A total of 617 scientists signed a letter addressed to President Truman. The letter encouraged him to first demonstrate the power of the new bomb, before dropping it. The request was denied."

That's how much of an asshole Truman was. He was smarter than 617 scientists.

I had no idea Henry died. He was a good man. I talked to him quite a bit. He was one of the smartest and kindest of people I knew.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Whenever Obama's failures come up, liberals try to change the subject to something 60 or 70 years ago.

 

[fenderburn84]

Whenever Obama's failures come up, liberals try to change the subject to something 60 or 70 years ago.

Actually I brought the bombs up and I am not a liberal by any means.

 

[NLXSK1]

This is him:

http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/about_occ/news/Orange+Slices.htm?Id=10341

" The scientists decided that the bomb should not be dropped.

'We suggested that the weapon be used to intimidate the Japanese into surrendering. We could give them a demonstration of its awesome power. Their own physicists – many of whom had been educated at Berkeley – would tell the Japanese leadership that you can’t resist this sort of thing. There isn’t a facile answer for survival.'

A total of 617 scientists signed a letter addressed to President Truman. The letter encouraged him to first demonstrate the power of the new bomb, before dropping it. The request was denied."

That's how much of an asshole Truman was. He was smarter than 617 scientists.

I had no idea Henry died. He was a good man. I talked to him quite a bit. He was one of the smartest and kindest of people I knew.

Hindsight is perfect. What if the bomb we demonstrated did not go off?

There are so many variables that to say with certainty how a possible alternate outcome would have unfolded is just pure speculation.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Hindsight is perfect. What if the bomb we demonstrated did not go off?

There are so many variables that to say with certainty how a possible alternate outcome would have unfolded is just pure speculation.

That's not the point. Did you read fender's link? Truman was all about revenge. The Japanese wanted to surrender but keep the Emperor. The US wanted nothing but unconditional surrender. In the end, after killing 200,000 more on top of the other millions, we decided to let them keep the Emperor as political strategy. Point is Truman didn't try. He attempted no negotiations. He wanted to be Dirty Harry. I don't see you as much of a liberal, why are you defending the stupid haberdasher who was put into the oval office as a mafia bet?

 

[NLXSK1]

That's not the point. Did you read fender's link? Truman was all about revenge. The Japanese wanted to surrender but keep the Emperor. The US wanted nothing but unconditional surrender. In the end, after killing 200,000 more on top of the other millions, we decided to let them keep the Emperor as political strategy. Point is Truman didn't try. He attempted no negotiations. He wanted to be Dirty Harry. I don't see you as much of a liberal, why are you defending the stupid haberdasher who was put into the oval office as a mafia bet?

Well, since there is obviously no way of disputing something ever written on the internet it must be true eh?

 

[boneheadbob]

Some of you have swallowed the rainbow stew and free bubble up.
We dont see or hear much of it as the press is controlled but most of the people around the world are already at war or are preparing for the coming wars and they all know who they are fighting.
The new world order globalists and their henchmen the, USA. The only nation that is killing hundreds of thousands of people around the world in their wars on terror and drugs.
Dropping bombs and monsanta seeds, all in the name of peace.

I am not saying its right or wrong
I'm just saying

I believe there are historical processes unfolding and that America is essential to them. What's unfolding is the process of globalization. It is a good thing, and if we don't fuck it up and revisit the dark ages, it will bring a world with no war and no poverty within the lifetimes of many on this board.

But the process is not unfolding unopposed. There are those who see a very different future. A future that looks more like 1000 years in the past. So there will be perturbations along the way and many of them will be called wars. If they are fought to advance the cause of globalization and connectivity, then I say they are worth it. If parts of the world need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century, then so be it. The hard core ideologues determined to stop it - hunt them down and kill them.

There is a future worth creating out there and it's too important to give up to a pack of thugs in a time warp.

This is what Ron Paul can't see, and why he is an isolationist.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Someone tell me what globalization means and what's wrong with it.

 

[NLXSK1]

Someone tell me what globalization means and what's wrong with it.

Becuase it is like socialism for countries.

Look at the Euro. It was designed to bring countries together politically and economically to prevent future wars and it is in the process of tearing itself apart due to different levels of social welfare and debt between countries.

 

[boneheadbob]

Someone tell me what globalization means and what's wrong with it.

Theres more to this world then most of us believe. There are actually extremly wicked people alive today who believe they are descendants of once mighty Kings. They believe they have a divine right to rule and they and their forefathers have been planning on this for many decades if not centuries.

They will not usher in a grand new age of enlightenment. They bring death & destruction to all. Read the Georgia Guidestones to learn what they have planned for all the useless eaters. They have already started cleaning out North America with things like Agenda 21. Thats why they are so adament about releasing and protecting grizzlies and the huge Canadian wolf all over the West.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Theres more to this world then most of us believe. There are actually extremly wicked people alive today who believe they are descendants of once mighty Kings. They believe they have a divine right to rule and they and their forefathers have been planning on this for many decades if not centuries.

They will not usher in a grand new age of enlightenment. They bring death & destruction to all. Read the Georgia Guidestones to learn what they have planned for all the useless eaters. They have already started cleaning out North America with things like Agenda 21. Thats why they are so adament about releasing and protecting grizzlies and the huge Canadian wolf all over the West.

I can't stop laughing!

 

[Harrekin]

Theres more to this world then most of us believe. There are actually extremly wicked people alive today who believe they are descendants of once mighty Kings. They believe they have a divine right to rule and they and their forefathers have been planning on this for many decades if not centuries.

They will not usher in a grand new age of enlightenment. They bring death & destruction to all. Read the Georgia Guidestones to learn what they have planned for all the useless eaters. They have already started cleaning out North America with things like Agenda 21. Thats why they are so adament about releasing and protecting grizzlies and the huge Canadian wolf all over the West.

I think something everyone on this thread can agree is that this sort of batshit crazy talk is not what the world needs.

Does anyone really think our politicians are smart enough to be part of such a huge conspiracy? 98.734% of politicians are so dumb its a miracle they manage to get out of bed in the morning.

 

[boneheadbob]

http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul113.htm

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Make no mistake about it, this means the end of America as we know it, and the end of “We the people.” For centuries America has been unique among the nations because she has been a democratic republic built on Judeo-Christian values. Now America is being merged into a new form of global governance, which is no longer democratic and built on Judeo-Christian values. Instead of democracy, we will be ruled by a secular humanist or occult elite that are building up a new world order, at lightning speed all around us. History shows us the results of what happens when the Illuminati elite rule. The Communist Manifesto was an Illuminati document. In Communist Russia, Communist China and other Communist nations hundreds of millions were killed and suffered under the brutal control of godless totalitarian state. There is a carefully concealed occult connection in the construction of these totalitarian states. The Russian occultist, Madame Blavatsky influenced Hitler, Stalin and the United Nations today. The Golden Dawn, the Thule Society, Satanist Aleister Crowley, the Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones and countless occult leaders and groups have constructed a high-tech global matrix of power. These occult teachings were promoted by Nimrod during the world’s first global government, the Tower of Babel. They have continued on for thousands of years through the Egyptian Isis Priesthood, the Dionysian cult and the New Age Movement. [/FONT]​

 

[boneheadbob]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Gingrich, who swore an oath 10 times to uphold and defend the constitution urges with his mentor Toffler, the very death of the American Constitutional system...“ The Council on Foreign Relations, whose goal is one world government, controls the Democratic and Republican parties. Newt Gingrich is just one more establishment Republican, among many, who are for global government. It is almost predictable the amount of so-called conservative politicians who win the support of Evangelical Christians. But, these “conservative politicians,” are in fact globalists pushing a one world government.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]We must remember that the global financial crisis is planned. Its purpose is to bring in a one world currency and a cashless society. The Illuminati slogan is, “Order out of Chaos.” The current global financial meltdown is a manufactured crisis! What is also accelerating is the coming one world religion, which is designed as a control system for the human race. In the Book of Revelation, we read about this one world government, referred to as the Revived Roman Empire and the one world economic system that culminated in mankind receiving a mark of the beast biochip implant.[/FONT]​

 

[boneheadbob]

Most of our politicians are idiots and useless eaters who do not have a clue. They are bribed or blackmailed and told what to do by others.
Why do you think Obummer did just the opposite of everything he said he would

I think something everyone on this thread can agree is that this sort of batshit crazy talk is not what the world needs.

Does anyone really think our politicians are smart enough to be part of such a huge conspiracy? 98.734% of politicians are so dumb its a miracle they manage to get out of bed in the morning.