About Dr sulak & Maine Intregrative Healthcare First hand???

[Maine Brookies]

Just have your friend schedule a visit re: chronic pain with the primary care provider before his appointment with Integr8ive Healthcare.

Having said that, i think you are making much ado about nothing. Chronic pain is a qualifying condition. Your friend has a record of chronic pain and a legitimate reason for not having seen a physician about it in the last year and half or so. Worst case scenario is he goes and has to come back in six month to say the pain is still there but i don't see that happening.

 

[Diezeldawg]

I just got a call from Sulak's office. They want me to go in and get a 6 month checkup.
Now my card(state registered) is good for a year so why would I want to go spend more money for something I already have.
Now if I don't call and make an appointment what can they do? Call the state and have my card revoked? That sounds like a money issue. I guess I'll make the call this afternoon and see what they gotta say.
Anyone else have to deal with this?

 

[sweetleaf76]

He needs to see the patient every 6 months to prove an actual relationship. The one year gap was not acceptable for the state, it's not a money thing.

 

[maineyankee]

He needs to see the patient every 6 months to prove an actual relationship. The one year gap was not acceptable for the state, it's not a money thing.

I was very fortunate to have 2 doctors recommend me, but my primary doc grabbed the ball, and sent in the paperwork for my card last Feb. I do see him every 6 weeks, for what ails me, but I have to agree here with SweetLeaf, that if this was not the case, why should I have to see him every 6 months just so we can bond? To me, (IMO) then the card should expire every 6 months, and not the one year that mine currently says (Which would be BS). I kind of read two different things here, but I would lean 51% on what SweetLeaf is saying.

 

[cerberus]

I just got a call from Sulak's office. They want me to go in and get a 6 month checkup.
Now my card(state registered) is good for a year so why would I want to go spend more money for something I already have.
Now if I don't call and make an appointment what can they do? Call the state and have my card revoked? That sounds like a money issue. I guess I'll make the call this afternoon and see what they gotta say.
Anyone else have to deal with this?

to add to sweetleaf. he probably won't except you as a patient next year, since you fail to follow his prescription and come in for check ups.. seriously did they seem like a scam when you went in the first time? (probably not) then why do you figure this 100 6 month visit is a scam? doesn't your dentist recomend the same thing? a check up every 6 months, and a cleaning probably.. :/

I believe the guy is just covering his ass. and the more legal and above board he stays the better it is for the rest of us, since he IS the public face of ME MMJ, since he has such a giant roll of emmitting new community members..

@tet you appriciate the fact that your non MMJ doc sees you ever 6 weeks but not that Dr. sulak is trying to be just as thorough?

do you guys think ALL dr.'s are scams?

 

[mdanforth]

They won't take your card but if you don't have a relationship with your doc they won't re-cert you.......this ain't cali, and it shouldn't be.....

 

[maineyankee]

to add to sweetleaf. he probably won't except you as a patient next year, since you fail to follow his prescription and come in for check ups.. seriously did they seem like a scam when you went in the first time? (probably not) then why do you figure this 100 6 month visit is a scam? doesn't your dentist recomend the same thing? a check up every 6 months, and a cleaning probably.. :/

I believe the guy is just covering his ass. and the more legal and above board he stays the better it is for the rest of us, since he IS the public face of ME MMJ, since he has such a giant roll of emmitting new community members..

@tet you appriciate the fact that your non MMJ doc sees you ever 6 weeks but not that Dr. sulak is trying to be just as thorough?

do you guys think ALL dr.'s are scams?

I think you were replying to me, instead of Tet, Cerberus, and no I am not implying anything of that nature. All patients should stay in touch with their doctors (MD, or DO) as much as possible. And I agree that Dr. Sulak is the voice and hands concerning all that MMJ has to offer as a medicine of choice. I really admire him.

What I am saying (now that I have some spare moments) is that if the State of Maine issues a card for one year, then it should be you are good for one year. When we have our vehicles inspected, they place a sticker on it, and we pay the fee. This does not mean that we cannot pull into a garage when we hear a ping and wonder what that sound was. Then, we have that fixed, yet they do not issue a new inspection sticker at that time. But I for one, do not schedule an appointment with my mechanic every 6 months just to see how my vehicle is running, especially if it's just obtained. Just my view.

In reality, the people of Maine have voted to allow MMJ in this state. I know that. I just wished that the State was just a tad more realistic and not change the laws and their meanings on a daily basis, just to suit their quirks. And no, I do not want California to happen here, although, like everything else, there are some good things, as well as bad things that I, as an MMJ patient and card holder, would like to see.

One bad apple (IMO) does not spoil the entire barrel.

Bob

 

[freelife04239]

I have to say if the doctor is willing to recomend mmj then you should be willing to respect the 6 months check ups. Any doctor that perscribes any med will not continue to perscride meds if your not a patient and willing to do fallow ups. This has been a rule of thum for as long as I can remember lol. Your refills only last untill you have a check up lol

 

[cerberus]

I think you were replying to me, instead of Tet, Cerberus, and no I am not implying anything of that nature. All patients should stay in touch with their doctors (MD, or DO) as much as possible. And I agree that Dr. Sulak is the voice and hands concerning all that MMJ has to offer as a medicine of choice. I really admire him.

What I am saying (now that I have some spare moments) is that if the State of Maine issues a card for one year, then it should be you are good for one year. When we have our vehicles inspected, they place a sticker on it, and we pay the fee. This does not mean that we cannot pull into a garage when we hear a ping and wonder what that sound was. Then, we have that fixed, yet they do not issue a new inspection sticker at that time. But I for one, do not schedule an appointment with my mechanic every 6 months just to see how my vehicle is running, especially if it's just obtained. Just my view.

In reality, the people of Maine have voted to allow MMJ in this state. I know that. I just wished that the State was just a tad more realistic and not change the laws and their meanings on a daily basis, just to suit their quirks. And no, I do not want California to happen here, although, like everything else, there are some good things, as well as bad things that I, as an MMJ patient and card holder, would like to see.

One bad apple (IMO) does not spoil the entire barrel.

Bob

sorry i was speaking to you.
your comparing health regulations with vehicle registration regulations. a better comparison is like freelife says, you can't get med refills without a check-up. The state has to have some regulating form, or we will become cali, and making you go back to the dr. really isnt something to bitch about. I understand health cost are outrageous but that is a debate about health care access, insurance coverages, social safety nets, hell talk to your Dr about their prices! but if you look at this situation as it pertains to any other medical script its pretty standard.

as far as changing all the time, well yeah me and you agree on this, can have employee's, can't. no veg limit, but there will be one soon.. its they inconsistancy in regulations we hear on the talking box every night, coming from the mouths of republicans. but again thats a debate about politics in general, i mean how many times has gay marriage been made legal, then not, then legal, now not.. politics..

and i hate to be a dink here, but the analogy, as I'm sure your well aware, goes one bad apple WILL spoil the bunch.. and even if i don't think thats the case, i still believe in removing bad apples as they help no one..

 

[mdanforth]

We are gonna be able to have employees as soon as the rulemaking process is done....who the hell knows when then will be.....

I'd be happy there is at least one doc willing to write rec's to qualified individuals, as the majority will not and won't even talk about it......If Dr Sulak needs to you see him every 6 months for you to keep your rec then so be it.....he does take one or two reduced fee patients every month....*

 

[freelife04239]

$100-150 what every 6 months that’s not bad at all; really if you think about it, most insurance companies have deductibles that big per year or more. It’s the $300.00 first visit that I think is a trap!! What choice are you left with?? It’s just a plain dirty. They don’t seem to care if you qualify or not they will just Book you and send you on your way $300.00 lighter. If you’re lucky and smart you should have a good idea if you qualify or not, but it’s still not always a closed case, I hear. I can only sit and think of how many people have taken $300.00, and run in to get an appointment with no real clue if they qualified at all. Why should you have to pay extra for a doctor that’s not in the pharmaceutical company’s pocket? It’s like we pay to have an advertisement removed from an app that we buy. Now we pay the doctors to ignore the lying pharmaceutical reps and recommend natural remedies so that we are not arrested while trying to live a healthy, predictive life and be a contributing member to society. At this time it seems this is the price we have to pay and I guess we should just be happy that we have the opportunity to use our medication. I just hope one day it does get better!!!

 

[Maine Brookies]

this ain't cali, and it shouldn't be.....

You say this often and i've always wondered - what do you have against the California model?

 

[Maine Brookies]

if the State of Maine issues a card for one year, then it should be you are good for one year.

My understanding, after a big go-round with my doctor about this issue, is that the card can be rescinded if the recommending physician feels that cannabis is no longer indicated as a treatment but - contrary to what a certain physician's office has told patients - not as punishment for failing to complete the follow-up regimen.

 

[mdanforth]

I believe that Dr Sulak had troubles with no-shows and that hurts the patients that want the spots, thus the pre-pay....bad apples ruining it for all...

The Cali model draws the feds attention, that's the problem.......*

 

[freelife04239]

I think you missed my point about the 300.00 first visits. Why do we have to pay so much for someone to Just checks are eligibility? What happened to people that say, hay I’m going to be a doctor to make this place a better world and possibly help people to not suffer? Don’t get me wrong I know there are people out there that want to help. I just wonder where they are loll.

Hay I want to try and help you feel better, or help you find something that can improve your life. Frist I need you to pay me double the normal visit to see if you qualify for any of my help. IF you don’t qualify, I can set up an appointment for other treat mint at the normal $100-150 depending who you see.

/\ /\ /\ I should make this my sig lol /\ /\ /\

I’m glad that we get the chance to use mmj legally but I just wish it did not feel like in the proses we are capitalized on

 

[maineyankee]

I believe that Dr Sulak had troubles with no-shows and that hurts the patients that want the spots, thus the pre-pay....bad apples ruining it for all...

The Cali model draws the feds attention, that's the problem.......*

Interesting .... But can you elaborate just a little MD?

<edit: Concerning the later, not Dr. Sulak and the no-shows ... I get that part>

 

[cerberus]

take a look at all the raids in cali. none here, none in michigan, none in colorado, which is for profit!.. i love that cali opened the door for this and in my heart i don't believe in laws that protect me from myself, thus all drugs should be legal BUT in this world, in this country, thats not the case. The feds locked down in cali, with the tax issue, hitting harbor side, they came down with the ATF saying people who register as MMJ patients can't buy guns (although both of these are nnational they set presedence down in cali) because it is to open and to be abused. lots of issues being raised by their model.


here is a good read

http://www.truth-out.org/rising-controversy-over-marijuana-cultivation-californias-emerald-triangle/1325691395

 

[mdanforth]

well we still live in a capitalist country, for the moment anyway, so if after you go to college, med school, internship, 500K in education expenses, you can open a clinic and charge what ever you'd like......

If one doesn't like Dr Sulak's fees one can still look for a different doc.....

Cali does not have any state control over their program which brings the feds around, *our state has control and that should make the feds feel better

we are Mainers, we don't like input or meddling in our business from those morons in Washington........

 

[maineyankee]

Thanks so very much Cerberus for the link. It is a very good article, and now has opened my eyes to yet another view and stand. I am new, and therefore, not as seasoned as you and some others on here. I admire your candid view, and respect any view, opinion that one has. There are always two sides to every coin.

A lot of us my age, and newness, only see what is "Glamorized' by the media. This was very prevalent with my watching "Weed Wars". The first 5 minutes of the show that I first watched, (I believe it was episode one), showed all the employees smoking on the job. I understand that we all have aches, pains, and so forth, but it just struck me as odd. To this day, I have never seen my CareGiver smoke in front of me while we were "doing business". I know that does not happen at Harborside, or does it? I don't know. I am not there. The producers I am sure, only care about ratings, and in keeping the audience in "suspense". That is what sells.

I again, thank you. I really do like what you do ...inform us, share your knowledge, and chuckle inside at us newbies

Bob ~ The MaineYankee

 

[freelife04239]

I DONT LIKE HIS PRICES!!!!! BUT REALY YOU JUST REFUSE TO SEE A VALED POINT OF VIEW. YOU SOUND PERSONALLY INVESTED. YOU ALSO DO A GREAT JOB PROVING THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, WHILE SOME HOW JUST OUTRIGHT MISSING IT YOUR SELF. I SAID WHERE ELSE ARE U TO GO TO GET THIS SERVICE. THAT MAKES IT A TRAP AND IF WE WANT HIS HELP WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT PAY THE 300.00. The price wont go down now its like postage when we were paying 4.35a gal did it go down with the price of gas. I JUST FEEL THAT CAPITOLIZING ON US LIKE HE DOSE IS DIRTY. I'm sure many people share your opinion but I don't and I'm sure I'm not alown. Open your mind up to new opinions and options in life you would be suprize how wrong we all are and refuse to see it.