There isn't necessarily too much Nitrogen but if you wanted to cut out Nitrogen during flowering you would lower A and not B. A has 3 times the amount of Nitrogen if I remember right. I would have no clue where to start if I even considered making my own line lol. I love Coco A&B from H&G so I will stick with that. Just curious about other additives since I have used their complete line for soo many different runs I'd like to try something different out. I doubt I will but just been pondering it lately. I wouldn't add another Base bloom nute if that is what you meant just additives.I think you mentioned earlier that H&G has too much nitrogen in it for flowering. What about reducing the AB in you solution and mixing in a bloom product starting after the first few weeks of 12/12 and continuing until finish? Just to augment the high Nitrogen in the H&G AB
All this playing around with the nutrients... maybe you should just make your own line of nutrients lol
You say it would be very hard to come up with the right mix, but your already mixing and matching different products, and the trouble with it is you don't know exactly what the ingredients are for each product. If you start from scratch from the seperate ingredients then you know exactly how to modify it. Youll know whats in your mix and have a clean slate to make changes.IDK for a fact but don't most PK boosters have zero nitrogen? Besides AN of course who claimed it was zero but those tests showed there was quite a bit. I believe the PK booster may be the easiest to make though. I was reading a thread the other day on how to make it. I also heard when that thread was made it was possible to buy what you needed but now you need some sort of license. I'm still young and have taken botany classes and wanted to go back to school and take some more and maybe grow even better. Growing is very easy but I would like to know everything inside and out.
Yea... you might be right, it could be like if you had a chicken and some breadcrumbs and thought you were gunna be able to make KFCSorry I just deleted the message on accident when I was doing that whole math thing. Yeah I guess the NPK part you could just copy but the other stuff in the nutrients is a mystery. That part would come from testing. Companies from what I have heard them say have a real hard time getting their nutrients to every state with the same label so they leave it very basic. IDK it all but I know most of the stuff in the bottles isn't seen on the label. It may be as easy as your leading it to believe but I am not sure about that. I mean there are a lot of organic growers that just use Guanos and stuff and it obviously works so I don't believe plants need as much as I think. The thing with Mixing additives are they aren't the actual NPK/micro/macro nutrients that are keeping the plants healthy more then they are boosting the plants with other random stuff like Carbs/enzymes etc.
Yeah it sounds fun but could be a bumpy ride. I was just reading a thread where people were using Big bud(an) with the House and Garden line. Has any1 that used this line ever thought of all the nutrients H&G has in europe that aren't available here. I believe PK 13/14 is one of them. I have asked them to let me know if any other nutrients would be beneficial to run with the complete line but they wouldn't give me anything for obvious reasons. This is what got me going on this whole different flowering additives with the complete H&G line. I know there are some additives out there that will be beneficial. BTW you should try out darkenergy instead of Algen Extract and let me know how it goes.Yea... you might be right, it could be like if you had a chicken and some breadcrumbs and thought you were gunna be able to make KFC
Someday I may give it a try. I would do it in a water medium hydro setup, and use H&G and my own mixed NPK replica mix, and run a side by side. hahaha
I do too but I don't love paying about a dollar per gal to use just amino Treatment and having to spend 200 dollars every 2 months for it. I personally haven't noticed much difference besides a bigger stock and stems which I have a feeling using a Silicate product will do the same. Amino Treatment will be the only product I would recommend people wanting to try H&G out not to use unless they had a lot of extra money to spend and wanted to see if it was worth it for themselves. I personally wont ever buy it again. It is more expensive than running everything else in their line.i love amino treatment
True True.. But I dont know i Spent the Money and ran it full strength side by side one with and one without! End product was amino Did WORK! The tric heads on the amino light where much larger than the light without. Also i was able to hit the Amino Light much harder, So much more resistant to stress. I dont know it is quite pricey but worth every penny! your plants just love everything about it!I do too but I don't love paying about a dollar per gal to use just amino Treatment and having to spend 200 dollars every 2 months for it. I personally haven't noticed much difference besides a bigger stock and stems which I have a feeling using a Silicate product will do the same. Amino Treatment will be the only product I would recommend people wanting to try H&G out not to use unless they had a lot of extra money to spend and wanted to see if it was worth it for themselves. I personally wont ever buy it again. It is more expensive than running everything else in their line.
Yeah. I know there is a bit of a difference that is why I want to find the right mix of nutes for much cheaper. All it seems like it is is Beneficials(already in Roots excelurator plus I use great white), Amino Acids(which I know one of the H&G Nutrients contain), and Silica. Those can be purchased for a quarter of the price at most. Aren't trichome sizes determined by if it is Indica/Sativa or whatever. I mean I have seen Strains become frostier but never seen the same strain with just completely bigger trichs. I tried talking myself into spending a $1 per gal for Amino Treatment when everything else in week 5 is no more than 60 cents. I really can't comprehend how they could charge that much for Nutrients. I mean if some1 is going to buy Amino Treatment then first they should go get co2 and make everything else perfect because that price is criminal.. That all being said lol I would pay an extra 25 cents just for the stronger branches on my plants which is really the best thing Amino Treatment did for me. Hopefully that is where Silica comes into play.True True.. But I dont know i Spent the Money and ran it full strength side by side one with and one without! End product was amino Did WORK! The tric heads on the amino light where much larger than the light without. Also i was able to hit the Amino Light much harder, So much more resistant to stress. I dont know it is quite pricey but worth every penny! your plants just love everything about it!
Glad were having this conversation because I just noticed that the canadian website for House and garden doesnt have Amino Treatment on their product list, and its not in the nutrient calculator. So I'm going to assume they dont carry the product in Canada, but it sounds like if I use Great white, with a silica additive then I can do without it.
I don't know if it was the roots excellerator that did it or not but my plants got totally rootbound in 2 gallon pots and their only a foot tall! Granted they are also 50 days from sprout now, so they have had plenty of time to grow roots. Their in 6 gallon pots now
Thats what I was thinking, I think I caught it just in time to avoid problems, and now with 6 gallons hopefully that'll get me through till harvest. I think I'm going to try sticking one plant into a 15gallon tote just to see if there is a differenceIt just means that RE works and you did not up-pot in time
Damn 15 gal is out of control. I have never used bigger than a 3-5 gal pot and I usually stay with 3 gal. Seeds are a different story since they have a much longer life but if you went to 7 gal at most you would be fine. I wouldn't go any bigger than 7 gal for a mother so that will be plenty good for you. I agree with transplanting multiple of times it always seems to work better and saves a lot of money in nutrients. I always start at 4 inch go to 1 gal then to 3 gal then flower.Thats what I was thinking, I think I caught it just in time to avoid problems, and now with 6 gallons hopefully that'll get me through till harvest. I think I'm going to try sticking one plant into a 15gallon tote just to see if there is a difference
I was actually going for a slight rootbound between transplants, my thinking being that it would be better to have a sortof russian doll type effect with many layers of rootzone, rather than if you had just planted to the big pot right off the start.