Reg Vs. Fem Seeds

Dizzle Frost

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I used to grow a number of those types of trains in the 70's and I never had a single hermie. A few friends had like 1 or 2 each over years, but they did not cause pollination the pollen was sterile. I never started seeing or hearing about hermies in any numbers until there were professional breeders and seed companies and crosses began to dominate the market. Now a day doesn't go by without someone complaining about a hermie or hermies.
i find that hard to belive, hermies have been around as long as cannabis has. if we go by your anology here then were saying modern breeders introduced hermie genetics to the gene pools? apperently you never grew and Chocolate Thai back in yur hay day.
 

beans davis

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In 1982, those prices were triple in Chicago. I used to ship Craftsman tools to Mexico in the 80's, before NAFTA when they paid top dollar for shit they couldn't get. So you're telling me people were driving back and forth to Texas and tripling their $$ on herb here?

Damn, I was in the wrong business.
Sorry to say they were.That was street prices I was paying 50-$60lb comercial..........125-$180 for red hair Oaxacan sensi depending on how much i bought.
You would find some seeds but very few.
The comercial was full of seeds.
 

Sunbiz1

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Sorry to say they were.That was street prices I was paying 50-$60lb comercial..........125-$180 for red hair Oaxacan sensi depending on how much i bought.
You would find some seeds but very few.
The comercial was full of seeds.
You were buying in Texas, close to border. We paid shipping...get it?. As the reign of Ronald and his dear wife Nancy continued their pro-pharmaceutical campaign those prices rose even higher.

And I think you are FOS, even on the border you weren't paying 50 bucks an LB back then.

Is this one of your alternate accounts here Brick Top?.
 

beans davis

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i find that hard to belive, hermies have been around as long as cannabis has. if we go by your anology here then were saying modern breeders introduced hermie genetics to the gene pools? apperently you never grew and Chocolate Thai back in yur hay day.
I never grew Thai but we grew a lot of Mex outdoors in Tex and i never saw a hermie and that's a fact!
Not saying they didn't have them,but we grew A LOT OF EM and i never saw one.

The only herms i ever saw in my life were from TCC CH9 & GHS and i'm in my 50s doing this since i was 16.
 

beans davis

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You were buying in Texas, close to border. We paid shipping...get it?. As the reign of Ronald and his dear wife Nancy continued their pro-pharmaceutical campaign those prices rose even higher.

And I think you are FOS, even on the border you weren't paying 50 bucks an LB back then.

Is this one of your alternate accounts here Brick Top?.
Hey fuck you!!Why you ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer?
Like i said in the post above i'm in my 50s and still live by the border.WhAT POSSIBLE REASON WOULD I HAVE TO LIE!

I don't know what you pay in Chicago but when you have friends in Mex and live by the border the prices i gave you are right!
How would you know anything you havent even seen Mex weed that was'nt seeded???
I could give you the prices they're charging at the border now but you would be to ignorant to believe it.

Start a thread and see how many old dudes from Tex chime in and conferm those prices.
Sucker!Paying 3 times that much,hate to see what you pay today.

Are you out right calling me a liar?
 

tip top toker

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If i buy a bag of reg seeds, i can pollinate one branch and end up with a couple hundred seeds. If you don't have space to keep mothers, that kicks the ass out of the initial saving made by buying fem seds :D
 

theexpress

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lol how funny how a thread about feminized beans v.s. reg. beans turns into bitching about schwagg sativas of the 80s'......
 

Sunbiz1

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Hey fuck you!!Why you ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer?
Like i said in the post above i'm in my 50s and still live by the border.WhAT POSSIBLE REASON WOULD I HAVE TO LIE!

I don't know what you pay in Chicago but when you have friends in Mex and live by the border the prices i gave you are right!
How would you know anything you havent even seen Mex weed that was'nt seeded???
I could give you the prices they're charging at the border now but you would be to ignorant to believe it.

Start a thread and see how many old dudes from Tex chime in and conferm those prices.
Sucker!Paying 3 times that much,hate to see what you pay today.

Are you out right calling me a liar?
Yes, I am.

And it didn't take long for you to have yet another meltdown...brick top.
 

beans davis

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That's b/c our resident drama queen brick top is using multiple accounts.
I don't know any brick top i've seen his post.PM me and i'll give you a phone # you can talk to me.
You fucking pussy hiding behind a screen!
You call me that to my face and i'll fucking light your ass up!!
 

Dizzle Frost

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I don't know any brick top i've seen his post.PM me and i'll give you a phone # you can talk to me.
You fucking pussy hiding behind a screen!
You call me that to my face and i'll fucking light your ass up!!
why are you a gold medalist special olympian boxer? .... seems liek yur pretty tuff with a monitor in front of you here.....dont be callin the kettle black princess
 

Sunbiz1

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I don't know any brick top i've seen his post.PM me and i'll give you a phone # you can talk to me.
You fucking pussy hiding behind a screen!
You call me that to my face and i'll fucking light your ass up!!
My, you're a feisty one for someone who claims to be at least in their 50's.

Check your panties...that is your PM's.
 

theexpress

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That's b/c our resident drama queen brick top is using multiple accounts.
bro has a fellow chicagoin.. let me be the first to warn you.. leave bricktops old ass alone you will never win with him... no matter what you say he will copy and paste shit and write like 100 paragraph respons forever!!! just leave him be... he kinda does serve a purpose here
 

theexpress

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I don't know any brick top i've seen his post.PM me and i'll give you a phone # you can talk to me.
You fucking pussy hiding behind a screen!
You call me that to my face and i'll fucking light your ass up!!
lol... listen man.... why even say stupid shit like this? are you that heated over what some cat is typing to you from behind a screen? i know your better then that... chill out... smoke one or two
 

macrael

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theres a couple of things you can do to try and keep it female one make sure temps are normal not too cold or not too hot blue spectrum will help a lot during veg period and another is giberelic acid (ga3) solution to soak your seeds in. but the ga3 is only good for like a month in liquid form.
 

Dizzle Frost

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bro has a fellow chicagoin.. let me be the first to warn you.. leave bricktops old ass alone you will never win with him... no matter what you say he will copy and paste shit and write like 100 paragraph respons forever!!! just leave him be... he kinda does serve a purpose here
nah you can own his ass lol... i did , it took some dedication but i shut him up, the stupid bastard even made a goodbye post :) ... then he came back :( lol


rule #1 , Brick Weed jus copies and pastes all his info, so in reality he knows fuckall but tried to pass it off liek he does.

rule #2 ,Brick Weed is not very smart when it comes to being an asshole, he jus spews out rubbish and hangs himself for an easy kill

rule #3 , never read his paragraphs , just go right for the throat

rule #4 , Brick Weed hates when you troll him hard....so "dont" do that :)


i dunno were the fuck he comes from, but detroit and chicago folks got no quit in em lol ... if comes lookin for hot water, ill always burn him
 

SupraSPL

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In defense of female seeds, they do not necessarily carry a hermie gene. It is relatively easy to get pollen from a true female and create an impressive cross. I get more slight herms from top breeders regular seeds than I do from fems.

In defense of regular beans it is easy enough to sex the plants during veg looking at the prelowers so you don't have to spend too much time growing males. Also several excellent breeders only offer regular beans so why miss out.
 

Brick Top

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http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4280.html

Then apparently DJ is an idiot, or you are.
First off, if DJ was paying the price range for the strains he mentioned, then he is, or was, an idiot. About Colombian Gold, he said $60.00 to $100.00 per ounce. When it hit my area it was $35.00 and it never topped $55.00 ... and that was for more than an ounce. In that era, at least anyplace I ever lived of visited and bought while there, people would sell a "lid." Some people in some areas might have been around an ounce, maybe less in some cases. I could buy lids that were a baggie filled so full that there was not only no rolling it up, but they would be difficult to close. You could hardly fold the flap over. $35.00 to $55.00, and it was almost as gold as a gold bar.

And what he said about it and turning hermie was; "The plants were also slightly hermaphroditic."

Colombian Red: He didn't mention hermies.

H.O.G. I mainly smoked H.O.G. all through college, in my case for free, but people selling it sold it for $35.00 to $45.00. DJ said it cost $40.00 to $120.00. About it turning hermie he said; "the plants exhibited slight signs of hermaphroditism."

Guerrero: Can't say I ever grew it. Nothing about hermies was mentioned.

Michoacan: His price range was close on this one, but then he never mentioned anything about hermies about it.

Thai: Thai strains have long been known to be very hermie prone, but then they most Thai strains, at least at the time, pretty much all were just called Thai so it would have been hard to nail down any particular one as being better or worse. DJ said; " plants grown from the seeds produced only minor quantities of seed, all of the product was hermaphroditic. Also, many of the male flowers were sterile on some of the plants, or on certain parts of certain plants. Did you happen to notice where, in what I wrote, of the very few hermies that I did know about, most times they were sterile, the pollen was sterile, there was no pollination from a plant truning hermie?

Chocolate Thai" DJ said; "and all were hermaphroditic." If I ever had Chocolate Thai in that era, I didn't know I had it, so I never experienced major hermies.

DJ mentioned; "Vietnamese," which is lumping a few or so strains together. As you might have read before, my brother in law shipped two very large stereo speakers home from Vietnam shortly before returning to the world after his second tour of duty. They were sativa strains from the Dalat area. He grew the different strains until his oldest daughter was getting nosy, which meant he grew the strains for roughly six of seven years. I only grew some a couple times. They were so long flowering that where I was living at the time it was a gamble on if they would finish. In my limited experience, not one hermie. We've talked about it many times over the many years and he has said, repeatedly, that if he ever had a hermie he can't remember it. DJ didn't mention hermies in relation to Vietnamese strains.

Next was Thai stick: Thai was already covered in relation to the hermie topic.

Black Magic African was next: I never knew of it in my area. I never even heard of it in that ear, not until some years later. No mention was made by DJ about hermies.

Durban Poison. A neighbor of mine was a conscientious objector during Vietnam, he was a Quaker. He had to spend the same amount of time he would have spent in the military doing some sort of good deed charity type work and ended up in the Peace Corp going all around Africa installing small hydroelectric generation stations on any moving body of water with enough movement to make electricity. When they left a village there was one communal refrigerator and each hut had one single light hanging from the ceiling, as centered as possible. He brought back Durban Poison and a couple unidentified strains. No hermies from them and DJ didn't mention any.

Venezuelan was mentioned. That's another one that if I had anything from Venezuela, I didn't know I had it. But he didn't mention hermies.

Next was Indian Elephant and Buddha Stick. I never had any. DJ did say; "Most of the plants grew medium bushy, and most, but not all, were hermaphroditic."

Panama Red. DJ said; "I did grow some seeds of Panama Red on more than one occasion. The plants were of the medium bushy character of the Colombian Red, with a little more hermaphroditism." That couldn't have been much because he did not mention hermies when he mentioned Colombian Red. I grew Panama Red, I never had a hermie.

Hawaiian herb was lumped together. No mention of hermies was made by DJ.

Jamaican Lions Herb, and Jamaican strains in general were mentioned. But there was no mention of hermies being a problem. I've grown Jamaican strains in the distant past. I never had a hermie.

Philippine herb, again lumped together strains. I never grew any of them, or if I did, I didn't know that was what I was growing. DJ didn't mention hermie problems.


So, what I said was:

I used to grow a number of those types of strains in the 70's and I never had a
single hermie. A few friends had like 1 or 2 each over years, but they did not cause pollination the pollen was sterile.

So how is that all that different from what DJ said? Colombian Gold; "slightly hermaphroditic" Colombian Red; no mention of hermies (other than later when he said, H.O.G.; "slight signs of hermaphroditism," Michoacan, no mention of hermies, Thai; "Also, many of the male flowers were sterile on some of the plants, or on certain parts of certain plants," Chocolate Thai; "and all were hermaphroditic," or at least all he experienced, Vietnamese; no mention of hermies, Black Magic African, no mention of hermies, Durban Poison; DJ didn't mention hermies at all, Venezuelan; he didn't mention hermies, Indian Elephant and Buddha Stick, I never grew it but he said; "most, but not all, were hermaphroditic, Panama Red; DJ said; " with a little more hermaphroditism" than Colombian Red, but since he didn't mention hermies when talking about Colombian Red, it had to be, at the very most, a very minor issue, Hawaiian; no mention of hermies, Jamaican Lions Herb, and Jamaican strains in general; no mention of hermies, Philippine strains, all lumped together, no mention of hermies.

So, precisely where does what DJ said and what I said differ more than just ever so slightly, other of course than he was grossly overpaying for some of the exact same strains?

DJ said a couple strains were slightly hermie prone, one that was very hermie prone tended to be strile or at least partially sterile, most there was no mention of hermies, and the only others that mentioned it, I never grew.

So how does my personal experiences with such strains make me; "an idiot?" I said very much the same thing as DJ, other than not having had any personally, but that I did know a few people wo had a couple over the years, often sterile. DJ said almost the very same thing, with the exception of a few strains I never grew, those of those only one or two did he mention any hermie traits.

You are in desperate need of reading comprehension improvement if you took from what DJ said to mean that most sativas had more than a very slight hermie trait and that what he said was largely or radically different from what I said.
 
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