A Newb Grow Journal

[nuglets]

well guys i lost my entire journal from this last month. most of the pics were only saved on this website. kinda stupid i guess. really sucks cause i like my journal a lot and had posted tons of info and pics on my setup. I will try and work over the next few days to get it back up and running.

 

[puff puff pa$$]

will be watching again good luck

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

need to do the same.I put the same info on another forum, so click and past.

 

[nuglets]

gonna start throwing back up some pics from before of the plants and the rooms.



i have 2 grow lab 8'x8' tents. both of them are cooled by a chillking 2hp chiller. i have 3 1000w lumatek ballasts. 1 in the veg tent with a hortilux mh bulb and 2 in the flower with hortilux super hps bulbs. with the chiller you have to find the right water temperature based on the temps and humidity inside your rooms. you can go online and use a dew point calculator. if your water temps are too low then you get condensation on all of your equipment and the manifold lines. for me i can get my chiller to 58 degrees without any problems. my chiller has its own 55 gallon reservoir which is 70% water and 30% propylene glycol. this is rv/marine antifreeze and helps reduce aging in the chiller parts as well as keeps the chiller from freezing in the event the pump goes off. i have a flotec 1.5hp cast iron pump which feeds my manifold line which goes through both tents feeding all of the water cooled equipment. it is fed directly from the chiller reservoir via 1.25" tubing. it then feeds the supply manifold via 1" tubing. every piece of water cooled equipment has a supply line and an exhaust line. the cold water goes in the supply side, passes over the heat exchanger; and then is pushed out the exhaust side. the manifold system is what carries the cold water to the equipment and what brings the hot water back from the equipment. the supply manifold is 1" cpvc and the exhaust manifold is 1.25" cpvc. this creates positive pressure in the supply lines at all times. you can use pvc but then i would have had to exhaust the hydrogen pro in my flower all the way back directly to the reservoir because the water is too hot for regular pvc. the lines you see on the reservoir lid are the 1.25" exhaust manifold line and the 1/2" chiller line. the pump has two 1/2" line coming out of auxillary ports on the front. one of these (red) is the supply line for the chiller. water is pumped to the chiller then sent back to the reservoir. the other (blue) is the supply line for the hydrogen pro in my flower room because it requires higher pressure than the manifold can supply.

 

[nuglets]

Veg Room


i had plenty of space in my veg room so i set the chiller reservoir and pump up in there. the chiller is left outside just like a condenser for an a/c. i set up a cloning/veg station on a bench i made. i have a 6 lamp 4' T5 setup with 2 propagation trays, humidity domes, and heat mat. i have 4 moms going right now; 2 power plant and 2 cheese. i was having problems with condensation on the bottom of the 5 gallon pots so i raised them with some 4" pvc cutouts i made and then stuck some extra 1/2" tubing underneath the cutouts to get extra airflow to the holes in the center of the bucket. for my moms i have a 1000w mh bulb in a magnum xxxl hood. i use ice box heat exchangers to cool the exhaust air from the hood back to room temperature. all of my fans are can 8" high output inline fans. the ice box does a great job if you have your chiller temperature set right. the air coming out of my hoods is actually a little colder than my room temp and after 3 days on i can still lay my face on the glass of my hoods it is that cool. the ice box is like a filter, you always pull air through it when it's attached to equipment. you can also use them like an 8,000btu a/c. in that case you can actually push air though it as long as there is no piece of equipment on the other side. i have one setup that blows right on my mother plants. i also have my dehumidifier set up to exhause the hot air into the back of the fan for this ice box. between the ice box on my hood and the one i am using as an a/c i have no problem controlling the temps in my room. the fan on the ice box i am using as an a/c is hooked up to a temperature controller. i also have a water cooled mini gen co2 generator in the room which runs on propane and has a hydro innovations co2 controller/sensor. it kicks on at 1100ppm and turns off at 1500ppm. in the last picture you can see both the supply and exhaust manifold leaving the veg tent and going to the flower tent.

 

[nuglets]

Flower Room


in my flower room i have 2 1000w hps lights with magnum xxxl hoods. both of these hoods are cooled with ice box's and can high output 8" fans as well. i also added 6 zoo med uvb 10 bulbs in the room. i am using the cap ebb and grow system. i have 18 buckets now and i am going to see how things go. i think i will be able to add 6 more to the next harvest or the one after that. i
insulated all of the feeder lines with foil tape and the controller bucket as well. some tips i picked up in the forum on other threads. i also made pvc insert to raise the inner bucket height over time as the roots get longer and start hanging in the bottom of the bucket. i placed 2 different levels for the buckets so that the far ones are higher than the ones in front. this way the
system drains a lot easier. i also made little wood chips to lean the buckets to the side of the drain. i use a cool coil that is fed from the manifold to keep my nutrient reservoir around 65 degrees. i also have 2 air stones; one for the nutrient reservoir and the other for the ebb and grow controller bucket. i have a hydrogen pro co2 generator and can filter which is hooked up to a fan and another ice box which i am using as an a/c.

 

[nuglets]

gonna throw up the pics that i have from the plants.

Week 3

this was 3 weeks from germination. i started them in sunshine #4 with some worm castings and a litttle organic compost mixed in.



Week 5

this is when i ran into some problems. i transplanted them too early and into 5 gallon buckets. i drenched the buckets and the plants were drowning for a while. i had to cut more holes in the bottom and didn't water for like 3 weeks. they got gnarley for a while and i was really worried.



Week 6

with some advice from the guys on the forum i walked into my tent toward the end of week 6 and was greeted by a smile from my girls. they looked so much healthier and were rockin!! still had some of the clawing and started to notice a little burn or deficiency but all-in-all a major improvement.

 

[nuglets]

i had a bunch of pics up from the LST i had started and some from a fungi problem that pooped up but those are gone. don't think riu will be giving them back to me. very sad about that. that was the first time i ever tried LST and i did it all on my own via research on the forum and the net. anyway...onward and upward.

 

[nuglets]

Time To Clone!!!!


so with riu down for so long i decided to get off my lazy ass and do some work. first thing i did was cut out some ventilation holes in my 4" pvc cutouts that i had under my pots. they were sitting on rubber ieces i cut out but they were kinda unstable. i also sprayed the bottom of the pots with a watered down h202 solution. gonna see if that helps with the fungi problem i was noticing. still don't know what it is but hopefully this will kill whatever it is.







after looking at my plants i decided i was gonna give cloning a shot. i have never done it before but i have been researchig it for a long time. i figured today was as good a day as any. plus my plants had plenty of good clones to offer me. so i got setup and dove right in.

 

[GorillafingerBlunt]

looking good man. when are you flowering her?

 

[hellraizer30]

Yah man killer and sub'd again nuglets

 

[nuglets]

looking good man. when are you flowering her?

thanks for stoping by. not really sure when i'm gonna flower. this is my first grow so i am just gonna watch the plants. in about a week i'll take the dome off. i have 22 clones now and only 18 sites in my flower. if they all survive then i'm going to turn a few into moms as well. mess around with LST on them and see how crazy bushy i can get them. plus i'm probably gonna add another 6 sites to my system after this harvest. gotta see how things go. i am gonna wait till they ae 18" before i put them to flower. i can't really have anything higher than 4' in my room so i should be good at 18". i wanna LST the clones too but not really sure how to do that when they are in rockwool cubes. gona have to make up some kinda netting or something.

 

[nuglets]

Yah man killer and sub'd again nuglets

thank hellraizer.

 

[nixusr]

well guys i lost my entire journal from this last month. most of the pics were only saved on this website. kinda stupid i guess. really sucks cause i like my journal a lot and had posted tons of info and pics on my setup. I will try and work over the next few days to get it back up and running.

Dam thats shitty you had to redo all that data. Glad I stumbled onto v2! Cant stop looking at the water cooling you got running.

Good luck dun!

 

[hellraizer30]

Yah im taking notes on his water cooling setup one of the big items im looking into is h&m fan cooling with water

 

[nuglets]

Dam thats shitty you had to redo all that data. Glad I stumbled onto v2! Cant stop looking at the water cooling you got running.

Good luck dun!

thanks man. yea, it was a little expensive to setup but considering i was gonna have to probably buy 2 portable a/c units and still would need a way to chill my reservoir i took the plunge. not the most economical on small grows but if you have a larger grow then for sure. plus for people who don't have an a/c option and don't wanna use portable ones. there's a thread called Water Cooled Grow Rooms (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/511767-water-cooled-grow-rooms.html). that dude has got his shit together for sure. he knows all about water cooling. he's running like a 12hp chiller i think with 2 5 ton water cooled air handlers and water cooled dehumidifiers. it's pretty crazy. he has it setup so that the lights in his rooms are ducted back to the return on his air handlers. i think he's running 10k in his flower and another 3k thoughout the rest of the space. water cooling is super efficient though. in the long run you save a ton on money over an a/c.

 

[nuglets]

Yah im taking notes on his water cooling setup one of the big items im looking into is h&m fan cooling with water

yo hell, what's a "h&m fan"?

 

[hellraizer30]

Its made by h&m and its a heat exchanger they come in 1 to 4 fan setups

http://www.heatexchanger.ca/cooling

The one im looking at is the water cooled heat exchanger fan systems

 

[nixusr]

thanks man. yea, it was a little expensive to setup but considering i was gonna have to probably buy 2 portable a/c units and still would need a way to chill my reservoir i took the plunge. not the most economical on small grows but if you have a larger grow then for sure. plus for people who don't have an a/c option and don't wanna use portable ones. there's a thread called Water Cooled Grow Rooms (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/511767-water-cooled-grow-rooms.html). that dude has got his shit together for sure. he knows all about water cooling. he's running like a 12hp chiller i think with 2 5 ton water cooled air handlers and water cooled dehumidifiers. it's pretty crazy. he has it setup so that the lights in his rooms are ducted back to the return on his air handlers. i think he's running 10k in his flower and another 3k thoughout the rest of the space. water cooling is super efficient though. in the long run you save a ton on money over an a/c.

Yeah that thread is how I re-stumbled back onto round 2 of yours. I've been glued. There was another cat that helped me out with some ideas for my 12x12x7 room setup. I really want to water cool everything since it will use less btu/power than a portable ac. But the draw back from me is that I'm not in a good situation for a 1-2hp chiller. I was thinking of grabbing a 1/4 chiller for my 9 site ucdwc setup and another 1/4 to chiller to cool a 55 gal drum in which I would plumb in the manifold for my (4) 600 watt hoods + hydrogen. Overall, I might just have to do a chiller for my res and just say F it and put a portable ac in the room and keep it simple. I will have to pay more in electric costs but it may be a good start until I get my handles down.

 

[nuglets]

Its made by h&m and its a heat exchanger they come in 1 to 4 fan setups

http://www.heatexchanger.ca/cooling

The one im looking at is the water cooled heat exchanger fan systems

those things look awesome. i've never seen them before. do you still need to get a chiller with it or is that the chiller as well?