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NoDrama

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Would have to disagree on that one.. I think Hoshi Ryokan would be the oldest company ever..Had a chance to visit when I was stationed in Okinawa (Kadena Air Force Base )
you are absolutely right, Beretta is the oldest FIREARMS company in the world.

I guess a Japanese company called Genda Shigyo is the oldest manufacturer in the world, starting in 771.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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Would have to disagree on that one.. I think Hoshi Ryokan would be the oldest company ever..Had a chance to visit when I was stationed in Okinawa (Kadena Air Force Base )
I tried to private message you but you have it disabled. On the extreme off chance that we know each other, I was in from 2005-09 stationed at Osan, Travis, and Scott in the civil engineering squadron.
 

Wordz

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what if treyvon threw the can of iced tea at him. Are we talking a 12 oz brisk or a 24 oz arizona. The facts need to be examined.
 
There is nothing wrong with the "stand your ground" law, in fact it is a pretty good idea. What happened to that kid is another matter, though. This thing stinks to high heaven.
It's a fucking terrible law. It incentivizes homicide and encourages people to escalate confrontations that they could have avoided to lethal levels.
 
I am of two minds about this. On the one hand I prefer seeing the bounds of "justifiable" homicide being kept fairly strict. After all, that is about human lives being taken. Otoh I see a need to provide a dissenting voice to those who'd blame guns andor gun laws in this instance. There has been a strong media message in this nation for as long as i can remember ... that guns are bad. I lament that.
Carne's stats shock me. I would not have thought that a stand-your-ground law, administered with even minimal decency, would lead to a near-trebling of justifiables. That makes me wonder if the ascription of justifiability is somehow malfunctioning. cn
I think that you hit the nail on the head with the last sentance. Stand your ground laws remove rationality from the judgment of what is justifiable. Technically, if you were attacked by a guy with no legs in a wheelchair, him wielding a knife, and you next to a fence that you could step over in order to keep him from getting to you, you're justified in shooting the guy dead.
 

UncleBuck

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I think that you hit the nail on the head with the last sentance. Stand your ground laws remove rationality from the judgment of what is justifiable. Technically, if you were attacked by a guy with no legs in a wheelchair, him wielding a knife, and you next to a fence that you could step over in order to keep him from getting to you, you're justified in shooting the guy dead.
[video=youtube;hpn_4Eb-ocQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpn_4Eb-ocQ[/video]
 

Canna Sylvan

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[video=youtube;hpn_4Eb-ocQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpn_4Eb-ocQ[/video]
I'll raise you cops shooting homeless over recycle items to survive and it's condidered stealing. Stealing trash!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/20/homeless-man-charged-in-attack-on-california-police-officer/

Not the first time. In 2005, LBPD shot and killed a homeless man stealing trash outside the aquarium. The city of Long Beach takes pride in protecting valuable trash. Don't fuck with city trash cans or die!
 

CashCrops

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The way this whole story turned out, you'd think zim was a cop. But he clearly isn't.

Why no arrest? I get caught with a gram? JAIL SCUMBAG!

Zim kills a kid? Here's your gun back, sir.

I can't comprehend the way things are sometimes.
Our country is really messed up right now and only getting worse. I'm not sure if anyone here torrents as I do but thepiratebay had on there front page a little saying that just made me even more hate how things are "5 years and fines of up to 50,000 dollars for downloading Micheal Jacksons music, 4 years for killing him" makes sense huh?
One way or another this guy will be held accountable for his actions, maybe not right now but eventually!
 
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