i would try transfering some to plain potting soil(as little soil as possible from other pot) and water with water straight from the tap in indirect light and spray with plain water once a day and pray to the weed gods.
looks like you went way overboard on the ferts
My tap water reads over 7.5 - 8... disgusting. Still think I should use tap?
The weed gods! YEESSSSSS a fellow believer!
If it your desire to save them. Weed is very hearty so most likely they can survive. I have seen worse looking plants survive. Patience will be key to there success. I would transplant them into soil that doesn't have time release ferts. An organic mix from Lowes or HD is good. Especially when learning. Fungus gnats are more of a nuisance than a major problem. Neem Oil will do the trick, safely, however I would wait to treat them until they are healthy. Do not ph your water, IMO.
Until they start to recover I would only give them SuperThrive or another source of B-12. Keep your eyes on New Growth. I would expect your plants to "stall" for around 10 to 14 days. After that if they have not recovered I do not think they will. Hope I have helped.
Peace
I will likely try transplanting in new soil and laying off the nutes. Thanks for the advice.
Overwatering resulting in root rot. Pull up some of the worst looking ones if you are determined not to scrap them all; examine the root system that has developed, or not.
How often did you water them? When they needed it? If so, how did you know they needed it? Did you lift the pots to judge the water weight? Or just go ahead and water them every day, or twice a day or whatever.
Very possible. I pulled one up. No real growth, the roots never left the sponge it came in.
It looks like a lockout due to too much nutes on baby plants..some of those plants are just now large enough for nutes at all and you have been giving them all along...flush all of them with gallons and gallons and then more gallons of water...if you really want to save them...but to tell you the truth I would throw all those out if I had anyway of getting more plants...they look terrible...you can bring a plant back from most things, but I feel like anything you end up with now would be unhealthy and unnatural like things buried in the Pet Semetary
That's exactly what I'm doing. Trying to bring down the Ph level because the soil was reading over 7.5
"I know water doesn't have nitrogen, but is nitrogen something to do with the amount of watering? Otherwise, I never heard anything about it."
good god man, get a grow guide and read it twice, dispose of that refuse there, and report back here before next attempt. on the double now!
Hehe - First timers don't need grow guides!! ;P
ok i dont even know where to start....
wtf is that they are growing in? that loooks like 100% perlite/vermiculite. wheres the dirt?
the pH sounds fine, as long as there is dirt in there
why are you using molasses this early, thats strictly for flowering, and 1teaspoon/gallon every feeding is WAY TOO MUCH.
you say theres drainage holes... are they working? when you put water into those pots, does it collect on the top of that "soil" for more then 5-10 seconds? if so, your drainage sucks.
those plants are all dead. theres really no doubt about that. scrap it all, start over. 1/2 vermiculite/perlite, and 1/2 dirt. make sure theres plenty of drain holes. dont use some crazy expensive dirt. its dirt. potting soil is fine. add a little organic composting in. worry about bonemeal and all that other crap later, once you got some green on them leaves and feel more comfortable with this.
whats the pH of the runoff? have you done a slurry test?
The sand is only on top because of gnats. I read that putting sand on top of the soil traps them and prevents them from digging into the roots.
I read to use molasses through whole growth cycle.. but you're probably right.
Drainage holes are there, but it seems like the soil doesn't drain easily. It takes more than 5-10 seconds when I fill it and expect run-off.
Ph runoff was originally 7.5, now down to 6.5 after flushing.
1- thats a problem. go to a pet store, get a 20 dollar pH kit. use it. stop using molasses.
2- nitrogen.... thats THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR PLANTS TO GROW (other than co2)
3- 3-4 feet above the plants... thats too much for all lights. flourescent go 2-3 inches above, HID lamps go 12-18inches above.
4- strain doesnt matter if you cant get it to live. you could try growing peppers and potatoes but you'd fuck that up too.
5- i smoke blunts while tending to my plants. and i sing to them. and i touch them and they like it. "/bad plant, you so nasty."
6- what? green sand? dude. dirt. water. no funky shit
7- yes compost is good, use composted soil, about 1/4th of that, 1/2 soil, and 1/4th perlite on the bottom half of the pot. for the top half, make it less compost.
what else did you do wrong? i dunno. you need to figure out the NPK thing before you spend another dollar. read some posts dude. theres great guides on here.
read the guild on chems i wrote (linked in my signature), and read a basic grow guide, theres plenty of them on here. stay away from the organics guide. thats like way beyond NPK.
5 makes me happy.. I hope you don't mind me using your "you so nasty" line. heh, I would fuck up other plants with the way these came out.... True that.....
Sorry they are so screwed up. Since they are amess anyway get some cheap Miracle grow and add to the water and try that. Not slamming you but you gotta read up on growing.
I didn't read much, so no offense taken. I mean.. I did read what I thought was enough.. but I feel it's important to have a delicate touch, which I haven't developed yet.
I was thinking about trying a mild fertilizer with some nitrogen in it, and flush the plant with a very mild amount.. Thanks.
Green, Short and Bushy are all good attributes for indoor Growing, I'm not trying to burst your bubble but I reviewed your pictures for a third time and all I see is Brown, Dead and Deader. On a positive note, here's an idea, pick your best one or two plants to try and save, shit can the rest and start some new ones. As far as nitrogen goes visit your local grow store, their shelves are loaded with products to numerious to list here. You are correct in that growing is a science and the sooner you can treat it as such the better you will get. Don't worry there is plenty of good advice right here on this site. I am always leaning new and different ideas thanks to this community.
Thanks. I will definitely keep a few, I have a few beauties that just look stunted, but green.
. Mr Meezy might be a troll no one can be this stupid. His has recieved more helpful info than most newbies that won't read a book deserve yet he still stands defiant. I say if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck and acts like a duck it's a troll.
