Here is a e-mail I got from Rize on the tube
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Come to find out he is "not growing Veganic anymore, it's sustainable organics now" for the Rize.
Sorry brah,
Pakalolohui (Pot Club)
I mean most of what he said is true. I don't mean to sound like I'm trying to blow him or anything, but all the info is there. Everything that he has said in the last few days is true. There is no right way, find the way that works for you, and that doesn't come from someone on the other side of your comp screen tells you. For all you know what they are telling you is complete bullshit. It comes from the experience of doing it and getting your hands dirty.
As for guidelines, you just have to take what Canna gives you, which is very little, figure out how your plants work in their watering cycles and adapt to how your grow goes. BioCanna recommends to water 3 times per week at 8ml/gal in veg. My plants don't need watering 3 times a week. Maybe when they are due to be uppotted, but 90% of the time they get fed 2x per week. So I had issues trying to follow what they say. So I took their regimen and mixed it with mine. In Veg, like was said, Canna recommends feeding 8ml 3x/week. 8x3=24ml. I water 2x a week. 24/2= 12ml. In veg I start with 10ml/gal and then bump up to 12.5ml 2x a week. When they start looking a bit deficient like it isn't doing enough, I bump it up to 25ml 1x per week with a watering in between. When I go into flowering I start @ 25ml/gal Vega in week 1, in week 2 I bump up to 30ml/gal, in week 3, bump up to 25ml Flores in first watering an 10ml in second, if yellowing ensues, (normally at this time it does, I add in NN Nitrogen.) 25ml is the highest my lightest feeder (Bubba Kush) likes. So then I just start adding anything over the first 25ml to the second watering. Week 4-6 go the same except I will bump it up to 25ml first, 15ml second on weeks 5 or 6 if the plant will take it. If not I stay at about 30-35. Week 7 is 25ml, week 8 is 15ml, day 53 I start my flush. That is basically it for my soilless run. The organic soil run is much simpler. relying on about 15ml of the previous regimen coming from the soil, so it starts at about 10ml/gal in veg, and up to 15ml/gal each feeding in flowering. Use lots of innoculants, humic acid, some honey ES or Molasses is nice, though I think it is somewhat redundant to be honest as BioCanna is very molasses like. I find myself running less and less of it.
There are plenty of us who have learned from him and are more than willing to share our info. So if he wants to pass the torch, so be it, but most of the people who started a while back learned through experience or "the hard way," that the BioCanna line is very incomplete. It is missing trace, low on P, low on N, no Cal Mag, no humics, and is pretty raw. We've each tweaked the basics to make up for that and adapt it to our grow.
After 2 years of trying to do it my way, I've come to the conclusion that my way, though good, is not the proper way to use BioCanna. You need to use a good base soil with amendments to make up for the deficiencies of BioCanna. So if you are a newcomer to Veganics, TAKE THIS ADVICE, start with a good fertilized mix, (not Roots Organic, that shit is weak yo,) If you want to run a soilless mix and not have issues, go with GO. If you want to do it the hard way and run BioCanna in Soilless, you will probably come to the conclusion that Matt, myself, and many others came to and start with either BTP or a good fertilized mix. I use OF and HF, prob just gonna go with OF next run. I run 1ml Roots, 2.5ml Honey ES, and 10ml Vega in Veg and it works like a charm. If anyone wants to know what I'm starting with and how I run it, I've always been open, and I know many others, not gonna drop a dime on them but if they choose to chime in, feel free.
If you try to go the Soilless route, you end up amending your soilless medium so much that it resembles a soil mix with everything except nutritive value. In my Soilless run I use EWC, Kelp Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Dolomite lime, Insect Frass, Azomite, Mint Compost, Azos and Mykos, and TM-7 and Cytoplus Humic fulvic. I added the same amendment to a Happy Frog and Ocean Forest base, and it works like a charm. I'm actually going to add more amendments to the mix because I feel like my plants need more. The bitch of BioCanna is that I use so fucking much of it every time I use it. When you are dropping 25ml/gal in a 5 gal bucket= 125ml/5gal, multiply that by 6 equals 3/4 a bottle gone once a week. I started buying the shit by the gallon and it really doesnt last that much longer. The way I feel about it is that I mix the soil anyways, might as well try to get some nutrition out of it rather than relying on my incomplete nutrient line.
That being said, BioCanna does work great and if I didn't do well i wouldn't be using it. I do phenomenally with it. Great end product. Very smell, very potent, very flavorful. I just hate coughing up the money for it. Unless you are some science wiz, or like doing shit the hard way like me, don't use it in a soilless. Start right from the beginning and amend a soil mix properly and SUPPLEMENT with BioCanna, don't rely on it. The soil will give you what the BioCanna lacks.
I understand how Matt feels, even though he may have been brash about it. Everyone wants to learn from the master, but the master has other shit to do than check our petty daily concerns. He obviously has moved on from it, and just kind of updates every now and again on his hash making. Don't hate on him, everyone moves on or finds other things to occupy their time. Just find some other sources of info and other people to ask for advice. I'm fairly certain there are more than a plethora of them around willing to chirp and chime in about their experiences.
we're all here, at least initially, because we 
but since that's not realistic was jus wanting the next best thing! A beginners wish for a seasoned bredren to pave the way! Just enlightened by ur work and dedication to the herb. Keep Rize'n the bar mang!