the real reason why cannabis is illegal?

brewing up

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its obviously harmless and every1 enjoys a good smoke, like mr nice says 'is it the tobacco companies or alcohol companies' or maybe the government know that we will think our way out of there controlling ways?? the government could get millions from it and get themselves out of debt so what is the big problem exactly??
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
The problem is weed = more unemployment everyone is high and doesn't care to much about the bills coming in or the fact they might be in financial trouble, just grow some bud it will be fine, haha my view anyway
 

Californicater

Active Member
You can not patent a plant, so the legal drug companies can not take advantage of this natural wonder drug, and are the largest lobbyist against it.
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Alcohol is shit, kills people every day = legal
Weed is top, saves lives every day (people that would have got hit by a car stayed in, high haha)
 

Kyle Keen Green

Active Member
Weed should be legal everywhere BUT if you look at amsterdam, where everyone says there is no crime, think again just because they turn a blind eye doesn't mean the crime isn't there. When people sell weed there are also other dealers selling the dirty drugs on the street, Just saying!
 

Kyle Keen Green

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My view is make all drugs legal, Leave it in the hands of the doctors. No one should be told there not aloud to damage there own health unless its how the government tells you i.e. smoking cigs and drinking alcohol
 

Jack Harer

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its obviously harmless and every1 enjoys a good smoke, like mr nice says 'is it the tobacco companies or alcohol companies' or maybe the government know that we will think our way out of there controlling ways?? the government could get millions from it and get themselves out of debt so what is the big problem exactly??
Answer your own question. Follow the money! The gov't may be lot of things, but STOOPID aint one of them. There is NO WAY public safety or health come into play when it comes to legislating what we can or cannot get high on. So, take the BILLIONS of dollars saved by no longer spending it fighting pot, combine that with the BILLIONS of dollars that would be generated by taxing it. That is ALOT of money!!! But obviously not enough to warrant legalizing it. Believe me, if there was more money to be made with pot being legal, bet your ass it would be legal.
So now the questiuon becomes who is making all that money??
 

PJ Diaz

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Why Congress Outlawed the Hemp Plant

On a hot Friday afternoon on August 2, 1937,at 5:45 PM,Speaker of the House, Sam Rayburn, introduced a bill called The Marijuana Tax Act. The bill ordered American farmers to obtain a license from the Treasury Department to grow hemp and made it a Federal crime for Americans to possess, give away or sell it without paying a 1% tax. The cannabis/hemp plant came in two versions. The first version was industrial hemp, a plant with a long history of commercial use, and a very low THC content. The second version was marijuana, the same plant with a much higher THC content. THC is the psychoactive chemical found in the blossoms and upper leaves and used throughout history as an intoxicant and a remedy for treating a number of health problems. Drug Commissioner Harry J. Anslinger,head of the FBN (Federal Bureau of Narcotics) first introduced the bill into committee hearings for review. The hearings, which should have gone on for days, lasted two hours. Anslinger told the committee, "Marihuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users, insanity, criminality, and death." Anslinger chose the Mexican word "marihuana," because the committee did not know that marihuana was the same plant grown in this country for more than three centuries and prescribed by doctors in a form called cannabis extract. The first testimony came from a pharmacologist who had injected himself and 300 dogs with what he called the "active ingredient" in marihuana. Two of the 300 dogs died when he injected this crude substance into their brains. The testimony raised eyebrows because the true active ingredient, tetrahydrocannabinol, had not yet undergo extraction and would not do so until years later, in Holland. After the pharmacologist completed his expert testimony, Dr. William C. Woodward, a lawyer and chief counsel for the American Medical Association testified that "The American Medical Association knows of no evidence that marijuana is a dangerous drug." This statement prompted one of the committee members to remark, "Doctor, if you can't say something good about what we are trying to do, why don't you go home?" Another member added, "Doctor, if you haven't got something better to say than that, we are sick of hearing you." These words reveal a pre-existing hostility between the AMA and Roosevelt's New Deal Democrats who dominated the committee. From 1932 through 1937, the AMA had opposed every piece of legislation proposed by the New Dealers, a conflict that left little friendship between the two groups. The bill to ban the cannabis plant from American soil passed easily in the committee and moved on to the House of Representatives (Congress). It landed on the Speakers Platform before a limited number of Congressional Representatives that listened in the stifling heat to Sam Rayburn read the proposal and call for a debate. The debate that followed consisted of a single man, a Republican from New York State,who stood and asked what the bill was about. Speaker Rayburn replied, "I don't know. It has something to do with something called marihuana. I think it's a narcotic of some kind." The same man asked if the AMA supported the bill. In response to the question, a member of the committee that had criticized Dr.Woodward and sent the bill to Congress leaped to his feet and shouted, "Their Doctor Wentworth came down here. They supported this bill 100 percent!" This spurious statement ended further questions, and the vote began. There was no recorded vote on the bill; instead, legislators walked past this point or that point on the floor to indicate a yes or no vote. Based on Anslinger's deliberate lies and the false statement from the hostile committee member, Congress passed the bill with no debate. The bill was on the floor for a remarkable 92 seconds before it became Federal Law. This new prohibition happened just four years after Congress repealed alcohol prohibition. The new law required a $1.00 tax be paid by anyone possessing or growing cannabis and came under the jurisdiction of the Treasury Department. Failure to pay the tax could result in a fine of up to $2000 and five years' imprisonment. When farmers who wished to continue growing hemp approached the Treasury Dept for a license they quickly discovered the Treasury Department would not issue a license. The new tax law had effectively outlawed hemp. effectively outlawed hemp The FBN under Commissioner Anslinger and later its predecessor, the DEA, received the authority from Congress to arrest over ninety million Americans over the next seventy years because they grew or possessed the cannabis plant without a license. Twenty million went to prison. In 1972, a paranoid Richard Nixon dismissed his own panel of experts, the Shafer Commission, (which recommended immediate decriminalization of marijuana) and declared war on pot smokers. He convinced Congress to authorize the building of the largest prison system in the world. Today the hemp plant remains at the top of the DEA’s list of dangerous addictive drugs, next to heroin. For more information or to help change the law, visit www.leap.com (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition).

Source: "History of the Non-Medical Use of Drugs in the United States" Schaffer Library www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/white1.htm

James Wiley 48 Woodland Ave San Anselmo,CA 94960 415-453-8715 Updated May 2011
 

GanjaGod420000

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This is very true... And is probably the number one reason, with gov't lies and propaganda coming in at a close second... But, I do sincerely believe that WITHIN the next couple of years, our nasty gov't in the U.S. will be forced to re-schedule it, and until then, all we can do is face power with truth, and I believe if we standfast and never back down or become lethargic in our plight to see this sacred and ancient plant legalized for our use, then we will eventually win this war... Because thatz what this is, is a war... Not on drugs, on people... But, not even the Obaminator can keep the will of a free people from prevailing... It WILL happen, and it won't be long... There's too many people behind it with their very lives at stake, and there's waaaaay too much scientific and other evidence that absolutely tells us this is an extremely safe and effective medicine, and thats all there is to it... Itz not dope, itz medicine... The same thing God Himself told Moses to use in the holy annointing oil in Exodus 30:22-33(although the Greek septuget intentionally mistranslated the original term Kaneh-Bos'm, or cannabis, to calamus, probably in attempt to hide this from people)which Christ Himself was annointed with, the same thing God instructed Aaron to burn as a sweet incense unto Him in Exodus 30:7-10, the same thing King Soloman grew in his own gardens in Song of Soloman 4:8-16, the same thing He promised us in Ezekial 34:29-30... So then, IF we are indeed one nation under God, one would only think our government wouldn't try to infringe on our religious freedoms, up to and incl the use and cultivation of cannabis... I'm only speaking the truth...
You can not patent a plant, so the legal drug companies can not take advantage of this natural wonder drug, and are the largest lobbyist against it.
 

Scabbio

Member
It's illegal because it has been for so long and there is a large and very profitable establishment that developed around it being illegal- the prison system.
So many people smoke, and so many people get thrown in jail for it. Lots of money to be made there.
The real reasons are far less insidious and conspiratorial than we would like to believe. It's not for control but for money.
For those of you who say its for control, I would agree but control isn't the end point, it's control for money. Money is always the point for power hungry fucking losers like anyone in DC. I despise them all.
 
It's jealousy, the establishment is so fricken jealous of my friend mariwanna and there aint enough sunshine for her and there aint no sunshine when she's gone and I'm in pain either.
 
The establishment is jealous because they can't partake in congress and those bulldogs won't even allow hoodies on dress up days. They're all a bunch of rich tight wads and they need to relax more than any.
 
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