LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

AltarNation

AltarNation

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Beagle said:
I'll agree that it's way better to use actual cannabis instead of synthetic cannabinoids if you can. I'm however, looking for a job. I use am2233 and in no way do I claim it's safe, but it is an option for me.
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Well then that explains your initial comment really, haha. Be careful with the stuff man, it's just plain not very safe at all in my book... heard too many bad stories... convulsions, cardiac arrest, etc... I don't know what am2233 is specifically but I stay away from the whole pile now...
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Beagle said:
It's true that some of these research chemicals labeled "Bath Salts" are amphetamine anologs, but some are much different. For example the phenethylamines such as the 2c chemicals are powerful hallucinogens that rival the effects of shrooms and Lsd. 2c-e, is incredible! ...but not necessarily safe.
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I had some intense 2C-I trips several years back when they first hit the scene and were legal for sale as a research chem... the stuff is no joke that's for sure... very powerful.. but it didn't make me feel well at all... kind of scary. Tripping is a very "mortally aware" experience and I feel a lot safer when I eat shrooms, which have a documented history of being relatively benign on the body.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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I don't get that in legal states, a guy that has a scrip for weed can't pass a drug test. Yet the guy that goes to the pill farm doc. for his norco's gets to pass. How does this even make sense? Felt like ranting because Wal Mart won't hire me because I use weed to manage my pain and sleep issues, instead of much more addictive and dangerous opiates, sleeping pills, and muscle relaxers. It's a sad day when doing the right thing and what's legal don't line up...
 
jsamuel24

jsamuel24

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kpmarine said:
I don't get that in legal states, a guy that has a scrip for weed can't pass a drug test. Yet the guy that goes to the pill farm doc. for his norco's gets to pass. How does this even make sense? Felt like ranting because Wal Mart won't hire me because I use weed to manage my pain and sleep issues, instead of much more addictive and dangerous opiates, sleeping pills, and muscle relaxers. It's a sad day when doing the right thing and what's legal don't line up...
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I hear you KP, I think I may be running into the same problem with Apple. Just talked to my recruiter and they havent gotten my DT back yet. Been 3 days and she said that isnt a good thing :/
 
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falcon223

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Well I will steer clear of that shit.
Mandrex where, pretty good. You could eat them or smoke them. They where a downer, but didn't last long, taste lawful when you smoke them. I maybe spelling it wrong. they only give you a buzz for about 30 minuets. We called them mandes, or beens, I loved those things. You could get a lot of pussy.

Say Pet how is the Roots organic soil working out???
 
Beagle

Beagle

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AltarNation said:
I had some intense 2C-I trips several years back when they first hit the scene and were legal for sale as a research chem... the stuff is no joke that's for sure... very powerful.. but it didn't make me feel well at all... kind of scary. Tripping is a very "mortally aware" experience and I feel a lot safer when I eat shrooms, which have a documented history of being relatively benign on the body.
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Shrooms are nothing to joke about, I've had some overly intense not believing I was real trips on shrooms. As far as toxicity is concerned, they're safe.


kpmarine said:
I don't get that in legal states, a guy that has a scrip for weed can't pass a drug test. Yet the guy that goes to the pill farm doc. for his norco's gets to pass. How does this even make sense? Felt like ranting because Wal Mart won't hire me because I use weed to manage my pain and sleep issues, instead of much more addictive and dangerous opiates, sleeping pills, and muscle relaxers. It's a sad day when doing the right thing and what's legal don't line up...
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It's our wonderful Pharmaceutical Lobby hard at work.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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quaaludes are way out your youngn eyes (im young but i know alot of vets that love thier pills had a bootleg version) imagine drinking a 12 pack in 30min thats about what feels like gives you giggles makes you horny. i dont discuss opiates often because was addicted, ODed, now i smoke weed. i havent taken pills for 4 years(other than medical reasons) and will never again unless its for a medical reason. anybody else her not eat Tylenol or any over the counter drugs? im have really high standards when it comes to doing drugs and the only thing im excessive with is bud...
 
jsamuel24

jsamuel24

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polyarcturus said:
quaaludes are way out your youngn eyes (im young but i know alot of vets that love thier pills had a bootleg version) imagine drinking a 12 pack in 30min thats about what feels like gives you giggles makes you horny. i dont discuss opiates often because was addicted, ODed, now i smoke weed. i havent taken pills for 4 years(other than medical reasons) and will never again unless its for a medical reason. anybody else her not eat Tylenol or any over the counter drugs? im have really high standards when it comes to doing drugs and the only thing im excessive with is bud...
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I try not to take anything over the counter at all personaly. I find my symptoms get alot worse when I give myself that crap.
 
jsamuel24

jsamuel24

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Beagle said:
To get back to the subject...

I'm making progress on building my stacked t5 cabinet system. I'm going to use the standard 6500k bulbs for veg...I know I'll get chewed out for that :p

For flower I was thinking FloraSuns and CoralWaves in this config:
FS-FS-CW-FS-FS-CW-FS-FS. Substitute FloraSuns for whatever equivalent ...Ultra Growth wave, Gro-Lux...ect.
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Flowering light pattern sounds good to me.

Veg, well you know what i am gonna say so i wont lol
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Beagle said:
To get back to the subject...

I'm making progress on building my stacked t5 cabinet system. I'm going to use the standard 6500k bulbs for veg...I know I'll get chewed out for that :p

For flower I was thinking FloraSuns and CoralWaves in this config:
FS-FS-CW-FS-FS-CW-FS-FS. Substitute FloraSuns for whatever equivalent ...Ultra Growth wave, Gro-Lux...ect.
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I think you got it backwards, all these bulbs seem blue dominant from what I'm seeing. Red dominant for flower, blue dominant for veg.

I'd recommend a couple of these, but they're pricey and people have had problems with them in the past. The UVL RedSun. View attachment 2108489
 
Beagle

Beagle

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kpmarine said:
I think you got it backwards, all these bulbs seem blue dominant from what I'm seeing. Red dominant for flower, blue dominant for veg.

I'd recommend a couple of these, but they're pricey and people have had problems with them in the past. The UVL RedSun. View attachment 2108489
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I've considered redsuns, but they do nothing for 660nm and eveybody is having problems with them. Each of the bulbs I posted hit 660nm, except for the coral wave which has the IR spike.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Beagle said:
I've considered redsuns, but they do nothing for 660nm and eveybody is having problems with them. Each of the bulbs I posted hit 660nm, except for the coral wave which has the IR spike.
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But proportionately, the two bulbs you listed to use in your setup are both blue dominant. Seems awesome for supplementary light, but personally I'd try to make it more red heavy. It seems you'd be predominantly blue light with just those bulbs (Just based on the relative spikes at least.). As for the redsun problems, I think it stems from people fiddling with their bulbs before letting them cool properly. I haven't had problems with mine, they all fired up, and no endcap issues.
 
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pedro420

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kpmarine said:
I think you got it backwards, all these bulbs seem blue dominant from what I'm seeing. Red dominant for flower, blue dominant for veg.

I'd recommend a couple of these, but they're pricey and people have had problems with them in the past. The UVL RedSun. View attachment 2108489
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They have discontinued the redsun/redlife bulb

But they are working on makeing a new one accualy idk if it was discontinued or not hit they got put on standstill for a wile due to a falty batch they sent out
 
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