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micko28

micko28

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lime73 said:
is it just on the one top bud? if so yes you can cut top cola right off and try to finish the rest of her.... try to get another fan going or something, for better air flow.
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yeah just one pf the top ones that fell over could i just cut the bad stuff off and keep the bud going
 
Trichy Bastard

Trichy Bastard

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micko28 said:
um i never used a humidity gage but its not to bad in there
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A trivial piece of information- it's called a Hygrometer- and you can find a decent one for around 30 bucks- much worth it IMO... You can try spraying some food grade peroxide on the mold to try to kill it off... 3% or so- apparently the regular stuff from the pharmacy has some stabilizers that are not good to consume- but worst case scenario I'd use it if there was nothing else, and wash it off an hour later or so... Good luck with that bro...
 
micko28

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lime73 said:
ideal humidity for flowering 35-40% anything higher can cause mold. hard to tell without a gauge.

yah not too bad for us ....but for flowers yes.
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it just dont make sence to me its winter here now and my tent has never bin colder i just cut off all the crap and there wasnt much so ill let it go for allitle while and i will probibly be on here tomoro so u can say i told u so haha thanks for all ya help im still learning next one i do ill have the cash to get all the gadgets
 
wyteboi

wyteboi

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oakley1984 said:
thanks man haha... i dont think im an advanced grower at all tho... im just consistently failing upwards ;)
i can honestly say i have a couple i like... they are good, but not amazing... i know for a fact what i want, is around me somewhere... ive had it before! weed so good 1 joint between a couple buddys and you were seriously flying.... drunk like high.. just amazing.


this is the mix i made up for my organic soil for my next round... what do you think?

2x 0.3cuft/9L Bags Peralite

2x 3.8cuft/107L bales of #4 Sunshine mix

4x 1.5cuft/40L bags of Ocean Plus Earth Organic Soil Conditioner (Fish Compost, Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss, Canadian Peat Soil, Premium Aged Organic Compost, Sea Kelp)

1x 1cuft/30L bag of worm castings

~5lbs Blood Meal (12-0-0)

~5lbs Bat Guano (2-17-0)

~5lbs Bone Meal (2-14-0)

~5lbs Green Sand (0-0-7)

~5lbs GH Rare Earth (60% Pyrophyllitic Clay 40% Leonardite)

1cup Dolomite Lime

1cup Epson Salt

1cup GH Subculture-M (33% Kelp Meal derived from Ascophyllum nodosum, 39% Humic acids derived from Leonardite, Glomus intraradices, G. mosseae, G. aggregatum,G. etunicatum, G. deserticola, G. brasilianumm, G. monosporum, G. clarum, Gigaspora margarita, Rhizopogon villosullus, R. luteolus, R. amylopogon, R. fulvigleba, Pisolithus tinctorius, Scleroderma citrinum, S. cepa, Laccaria laccata, L. bicolor, Suillus punctatapies, S. granulatus, Trichoderma harzianum, T. konigii, Bacillus pumilis, B. megaterium, Bacillus subtilis, B. licheniformis, B. amyloliquefaciens)

1cup GH Subculture-B (Bacillus subtilis, B. licheniformis, B. megaterium, B. pumulis, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Streptomyces lydicus ,S. griseus ,Pseudomonas fluorescence ,Trichoderma harzianum )
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i will have to do some math on this one oak. i dont mix up that much soil at one time. it seems like a lot of food , but again i need to do some math....... i 'll be back with my opinion.

my first take on it , is that your using an all peat base mix which is gonna hold a real low ph. i am sure you are aware of that because you got plenty of lime to buffer it for you ...... but in my opinion its just much easier to start with a soil base thats gonna always hold a "sweet ph" (if healthy) that way you dont have to worry about adding too much lime. my point is that peat is way too acidic for growing mj thus you have to add a buffer (lime) to keep the ph up , so why not just start with a soil that mj grows in naturally?
i just dont like the idea of a peat base for a good organic soil. there is nothing wrong with it , you just gotta keep up on the ph.




micko28 said:
it just dont make sence to me its winter here now and my tent has never bin colder i just cut off all the crap and there wasnt much so ill let it go for allitle while and i will probibly be on here tomoro so u can say i told u so haha thanks for all ya help im still learning next one i do ill have the cash to get all the gadgets
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as long as the rest of her has not copped it yet , then it should finish out nice. (provided you dont take too much off her)

are you using cfl's micko? there is no way you copped bud rot in a tent with high density light ?

i dont know what species that is , but it looks like a high yield outdoor species to me.(or just low light making it look that way)
how long has she been in 12/12 ?

i guess your only choice is too make sure there is plenty of air flow , an get them temps up to 80 to 85f , even if you gotta add heat. and the more i think about it , you might be safe by just adding more airflow. if you got that wind wippin through the room then the mold shouldnt be able to grow.

you can do whatever you'd like to get the humidity down and air flow better , but as always i am just gonna recommend a high density light with more circulation.
if your already runnin high density then excuse my dumbness an get that humidity down. (more circulation)




soil :bigjoint:
 
oakley1984

oakley1984

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wyteboi said:
i will have to do some math on this one oak. i dont mix up that much soil at one time. it seems like a lot of food , but again i need to do some math....... i 'll be back with my opinion.

my first take on it , is that your using an all peat base mix which is gonna hold a real low ph. i am sure you are aware of that because you got plenty of lime to buffer it for you ...... but in my opinion its just much easier to start with a soil base thats gonna always hold a "sweet ph" (if healthy) that way you dont have to worry about adding too much lime. my point is that peat is way too acidic for growing mj thus you have to add a buffer (lime) to keep the ph up , so why not just start with a soil that mj grows in naturally?
i just dont like the idea of a peat base for a good organic soil. there is nothing wrong with it , you just gotta keep up on the ph.
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believe me when i say i would of started with a good organic base soil if i could have... thats the idea behind the soil conditioner that i bought there, 160L of Fish Compost, Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss, Canadian Peat Soil, Premium Aged Organic Compost, Sea Kelp was mixed in with 220L of peatbase....
so in essence i started with 360l of decent organic soil.. nothing to special... 2/3rds peat, the rest compost and soil

in total i ended up with around 150gal of "hot" soil

plan on running it supersoil style, hotloading bottom half of pot

once its all finished cooking im going to ph my mix and see where it stands, may be adding in more lime, may not... shall see!
 
micko28

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wyteboi said:
i will have to do some math on this one oak. i dont mix up that much soil at one time. it seems like a lot of food , but again i need to do some math....... i 'll be back with my opinion.

my first take on it , is that your using an all peat base mix which is gonna hold a real low ph. i am sure you are aware of that because you got plenty of lime to buffer it for you ...... but in my opinion its just much easier to start with a soil base thats gonna always hold a "sweet ph" (if healthy) that way you dont have to worry about adding too much lime. my point is that peat is way too acidic for growing mj thus you have to add a buffer (lime) to keep the ph up , so why not just start with a soil that mj grows in naturally?
i just dont like the idea of a peat base for a good organic soil. there is nothing wrong with it , you just gotta keep up on the ph.






as long as the rest of her has not copped it yet , then it should finish out nice. (provided you dont take too much off her)

are you using cfl's micko? there is no way you copped bud rot in a tent with high density light ?

i dont know what species that is , but it looks like a high yield outdoor species to me.(or just low light making it look that way)
how long has she been in 12/12 ?

i guess your only choice is too make sure there is plenty of air flow , an get them temps up to 80 to 85f , even if you gotta add heat. and the more i think about it , you might be safe by just adding more airflow. if you got that wind wippin through the room then the mold shouldnt be able to grow.

you can do whatever you'd like to get the humidity down and air flow better , but as always i am just gonna recommend a high density light with more circulation.
if your already runnin high density then excuse my dumbness an get that humidity down. (more circulation)




soil :bigjoint:
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thanks for ya help im running 2x600 watt hps so plenty of light and the strain that is rotting is big bomb it fell over into the shade for god knows how long so that might of done it i cut out all the inside stuff that was bad so ill look wen the lights come on to see if its better or worse ive got 9 days left of flower for big bomb and the cheese will be an extra week i reckon
 
wyteboi

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micko28 said:
thanks for ya help im running 2x600 watt hps so plenty of light and the strain that is rotting is big bomb it fell over into the shade for god knows how long so that might of done it i cut out all the inside stuff that was bad so ill look wen the lights come on to see if its better or worse ive got 9 days left of flower for big bomb and the cheese will be an extra week i reckon
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well i feel like an idiot. i would have sworn you were usin cfl's.

well i was wrong and i believe you are right , it was just a fluke from fallin in the back of the room.



soil
 
wyteboi

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oakley1984 said:
believe me when i say i would of started with a good organic base soil if i could have... thats the idea behind the soil conditioner that i bought there, 160L of Fish Compost, Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss, Canadian Peat Soil, Premium Aged Organic Compost, Sea Kelp was mixed in with 220L of peatbase....
so in essence i started with 360l of decent organic soil.. nothing to special... 2/3rds peat, the rest compost and soil

in total i ended up with around 150gal of "hot" soil

plan on running it supersoil style, hotloading bottom half of pot

once its all finished cooking im going to ph my mix and see where it stands, may be adding in more lime, may not... shall see!
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usually the lime will keep it in check for awhile , so your ph should be dead on, at least for a month or two. your mix is no where near promix or sunshine and results are fairly decent with those mixes by theirselves so your gonna do great! you know what your doin oak , just keep it up.

i never did my math to see how hot your mix will be (aint smoked one yet)

what is your bottom of the pot mix contain compared to your top of the pot mix ?

do you reuse dirt oak ? if so then you just add more compost and/or castings each time with your food an after a few rounds you wont have to worry about the ph anymore at all.
if not then i would use a mulch on top , that way when you think she needs something (lime or food) you can just lift up the layer of mulch and sprinkle on top, the mulch will keep the top of your pot moist for longer periods thus causing the top dressings to get used quicker vs just putting stuff on top of the dry dirt. (i use dry foods)

best of luck oak , and i hope you find the amazing one soon!



soil
 
micko28

micko28

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im in my last week of an 8 week strain and its growing new buds still with new white pistils is it just swelling up or is there something wrong
 
oakley1984

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wyteboi said:
usually the lime will keep it in check for awhile , so your ph should be dead on, at least for a month or two. your mix is no where near promix or sunshine and results are fairly decent with those mixes by theirselves so your gonna do great! you know what your doin oak , just keep it up.

i never did my math to see how hot your mix will be (aint smoked one yet)

what is your bottom of the pot mix contain compared to your top of the pot mix ?

do you reuse dirt oak ? if so then you just add more compost and/or castings each time with your food an after a few rounds you wont have to worry about the ph anymore at all.
if not then i would use a mulch on top , that way when you think she needs something (lime or food) you can just lift up the layer of mulch and sprinkle on top, the mulch will keep the top of your pot moist for longer periods thus causing the top dressings to get used quicker vs just putting stuff on top of the dry dirt. (i use dry foods)

best of luck oak , and i hope you find the amazing one soon!



soil
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as is this will be my first venture into an organic base soil.. no ive never reused dirt.. ive heard multiple times tho that the mix should last around a year....
up until now i had been growing in just strait sunshine #4, grown some decent buds but nothing thats spectacular

i dont think my soil should be TOO hot... the recipe is based off subcools supersoil which uses 8-10cf of roots organic which is pretty hot to begin with
i started out with 2 bales of sunshine #4 so i dont think im gonna be into the Seriously hot soil... the soil conditioner i used before ammendments i mixed @ a 2:1 ratio so yet again.. shouldnt be Too hot!
been checking my soil every couple days... all my bennys very much came to life... got a nice coating of myco fungi growing.. so far so good, no noxious smell, no ammonia smell. no foul smell... just a hot soil smell and im 2 weeks (roughly half way) through cooking!

intersting idea on the mulch im gonna have to try that on a couple plants!

thnx for the well wishes man! i hope im on the right track with this one! :D
 
turbocivic6776

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A small bud i just pulled to taste test its a unkown strain from AMS grown in solo cup with ffof and fox farm nutes smells just like a fresh cut grapefruit but AMS doesnt have any descriptions describing that so i dont know what it is i think it might be a hybrid that never made it to mass production.
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