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Gastanker

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didnt get her check :(

one of my frisian dew colas broke today when i took them out of the tent to do a good thougrogh watering so its drying and i guess i get a small taste test (probally like 1/4 oz bud lol)

im actually not too upset about it since im smoking some weed that was only 4 weeks into flower that died on me so i chopped it. its pretty crappy and dosent seem to want to cure right
Double bummer! I went to drop off some yard waste at the local earthworm factory and was sooo tempted to fill up the car with soil. Looks and smells way better than my happy frog and it's $30-50 a yard (depending on what amendments you want) versus $15 for 1.5ft^3 which is $270/yard. Can you believe that?! Happy frog is $270 a yard^3! Fing crazy shit when you can get 20% worm casting soil for $30/yard.

wheres the best place to order beans to states stealth of course sour and og thx in advance:roll:
I've had great success with attitude seed bank.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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yeah it is nuts...

the local dump composts all the leaves from the fall and other organics like pumpkins from halloween, hay bails...ect ect and then they dump it for free at the town yard for people to take. definatly a good base then some cow shit and a few bags of Epsoma garden tone and worm castings and you got a dam good soil
 

Gastanker

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Yeah, my dump does that as well and it's great as a base but this stuff was just beautiful. I'm looking at their site and I guess they have soil that goes as high as $90 a yard, still much cheaper than happy frog though. They definitely cater to the "local" taste :)

"20% EWC. An ideal soil mix for rapid root developement and growth. This highly aeriated mix contains worm castings from The Worm Farm, coconut coir, compost, perlite, calphos powder, azomite rock powder, glacial rock dust, and green sand."

"20% EWC. A local favorite for soils that need an extra boost. Contains OMRI certified organic compost, worm castings from The Worm Farm, chicken manure, rice hulls, cow manure and perlite."
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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yeah sound slike some good shit. out where you live indoor horticulture is a pretty common practice though so people can make money with that kind of setup. here in Maine its not so common.

maybe i should setup a raised 40x40x60" raised bed worm farm/compost pile. I could probally sell my shit for 20$ sq yard. which is cheaper than the happy frog and would be better. couple of local diners that would supply me with lots of coffee grounds and eggshells and other organic compostables.

plenty of local dairy farms for cow manure and i can get all the leaves i want from the dump. wonder how long it takes to build up a worm farm that big and be able to keep it running through the harsh maine winter....

problem is "hot" composting works well in winter here but worms dont care for the heat so much, i guess with a space that big they can get away from it if they want.
 

Gastanker

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The two smaller ones towards the back had fallen over and already adjusted to the position so they are looking a bit bent in the pic - should straighten right back up.

 

Gastanker

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nice work gas!! how the bug issue goin on ?? none in sight?? :) gotta be less bugs in the attic for sure!!
I definitely brought some mites with me but after a few sprays with some 3 in 1 organic stuff and hanging a no pest strip they seem to have left. I'm thinking it was the no pests strip - nasty nasty chemicals but it might become part of my arsenal when not flowering. Hopefully with the pests strip removed they wont return. Can't imagine why a mite would want to visit an attic anyways. :)

looking very healthy gas keep up the good work :D
Thanks. Two of the smaller ones still seem to have wrinkly leaves but aside from that they look ok. Lets hope the heat doesn't get to em :)
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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looking good man!!

are you refering to the hot shot no pest strip? i have been thinking of getting a couple of them for my gnat issue but im pretty far into flower right now not sure if its such a good idea.
 

Gastanker

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looking good man!!

are you refering to the hot shot no pest strip? i have been thinking of getting a couple of them for my gnat issue but im pretty far into flower right now not sure if its such a good idea.
Yup, that's the one. I would highly suggest NOT using it at all in flower. They seems to work great but it's due to nasty constantly releasing chems. Clearly states on the package to keep humans and other animals away from the strip nor let it around any food crops regardless of how far along they are. Gnats aren't too bad anyways - I'd recommend spending the same amount on a big bag of sand and covering the tops of the pots in sand.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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problem is i have a ton of seedling trays and jiffy pots in my house, the fungus gnats arent so bad its the larvea that i hate, they destroy clones and make it virtually impossible to root anything because they eat the roots off the little guys faster than they can grow them.

i just lost a big batch of clones to mold because i had to keep them in a air tight dome to keep the gnats out, they molded up so i took the dome off and the fucking gnats destroyed any of the ones that would have made it. 14 clones i managed to keep 4 that lived so far only clones i have been able to manage to keep is the BC plant and 1-2 frisian dew clones, im going to be making a new dome today and cutting more and hopefully this round i have better results because if i dont get some good clones soon ill be losing some of my genetics :(

my blueberry gum plant is running out of places to take a clone from and is 1 week into flower already and i havent been able to get a clone to keep with it yet.

i have a big square cake plan that im going to cut a couple of long narrow holes in the side and duct tape some mesh i have that will hopefully be small enough to keep them out.
 

Gastanker

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Silk screen is cheap and will keep them out. If your clones are being attacked then by all means toss a strip into your veg cab - I just wouldn't recommend it for your flower cab. Or is the hobbit still in your veg cab? Pesticide soil drenches work great for gnats.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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the hobbit is chopped and gone lol

i tried spraying some pesticide and it damaged my plants. these gnats are everywhere in my house now because of all the veggie/flower seedlings i have going so i dont think ill be doing anything until all that shit makes it outside.

hopefully this weekend i can get my greenhouse constructed, wont be much basicly made of 4x4 for the floor frame and PvC pipe for the shell and plastic.


http://doorgarden.com/10/50-dollar-hoop-house-green-house
 

Gastanker

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the hobbit is chopped and gone lol

i tried spraying some pesticide and it damaged my plants. these gnats are everywhere in my house now because of all the veggie/flower seedlings i have going so i dont think ill be doing anything until all that shit makes it outside.

hopefully this weekend i can get my greenhouse constructed, wont be much basicly made of 4x4 for the floor frame and PvC pipe for the shell and plastic.


http://doorgarden.com/10/50-dollar-hoop-house-green-house
Great link. If I had more room I'd be sporting several of those on top of my ebay greenhouse.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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ok so i just constructed my jiffy puck, gnat proof (i hope) cloner/dome, lol what do you think?

all of the trays are taped down so they dont move, and i have a piece of tape with a orientation marking so i can make a diagram and know exactly what clones are what without having to actually label them inside the cloner/dome

1 cake pan (i think a cake pan was your idea at one point in time)
about 6 inches of duct tape
jiffy puck refil pack tray and pucks
and some old nylon netting i found cut up and folded a couple times.


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Gastanker

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Brilliant! Cake containers are definitely a staple of mine - perfect little humidity chambers. Can't imagine that not working as long as you have no initial contamination.
 

Gastanker

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hehe, my wife brought home a topsy turvy pepper garden thing - those hanging plastic bags you fill with soil to grow peppers/tomatoes vertically. Half temped to put a couple plants in it.
 

psari

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hehe, my wife brought home a topsy turvy pepper garden thing - those hanging plastic bags you fill with soil to grow peppers/tomatoes vertically. Half temped to put a couple plants in it.
It's amusing to do. Hard part is getting the growth going up along the sides with good FIM/topping early on. You'll see the plant working against gravity instantly and more or less have to treat this like banzai growing. Only thing I saw where this was less of an issue was an auto that didn't get big etc.

The cloth bag systems that breathe like an airpot/smartpot using hard steel wire cage support work better for canna and just about everything else. Example: http://www.gardeners.com/Gardeners-Revolution-Planter-Success-Kit/39-413,default,pd.html?start=49&q=bag

Having tried this I figured I shouldn't just lurk and at least mention that it is a true test of wills. But like any sideline growing, it can be entertaining.

Cheers.
 

Gastanker

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It's amusing to do. Hard part is getting the growth going up along the sides with good FIM/topping early on. You'll see the plant working against gravity instantly and more or less have to treat this like banzai growing. Only thing I saw where this was less of an issue was an auto that didn't get big etc.

The cloth bag systems that breathe like an airpot/smartpot using hard steel wire cage support work better for canna and just about everything else. Example: http://www.gardeners.com/Gardeners-Revolution-Planter-Success-Kit/39-413,default,pd.html?start=49&q=bag

Having tried this I figured I shouldn't just lurk and at least mention that it is a true test of wills. But like any sideline growing, it can be entertaining.

Cheers.

Love the info. I'm definitely thinking of doing it as more of a joke than anything else. The one we have is crappy plastic with only a tiny tiny amount of soil. I can't imagine a single plant being happy in it, definitely not 9 or whatever number of plants it's designed for. I think we're going to hang it in the sun room that only receives partial lighting as well. But as long as I have an extra 'junker' plant it might be fun.

I do have a couple really lanky not very supportive strains... Maybe they would fight gravity a bit less and just go with it. We shall see. :)
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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It's amusing to do. Hard part is getting the growth going up along the sides with good FIM/topping early on. You'll see the plant working against gravity instantly and more or less have to treat this like banzai growing. Only thing I saw where this was less of an issue was an auto that didn't get big etc.

The cloth bag systems that breathe like an airpot/smartpot using hard steel wire cage support work better for canna and just about everything else. Example: http://www.gardeners.com/Gardeners-Revolution-Planter-Success-Kit/39-413,default,pd.html?start=49&q=bag

Having tried this I figured I shouldn't just lurk and at least mention that it is a true test of wills. But like any sideline growing, it can be entertaining.

Cheers.
what would be cool is to cut a hole's in the fabric in each bottom square of the unit, then place a nicely rooted clone in each spot and put it in a spot where each side gets equal light during the day, probally would have to put it out in begining-mid july in order to keep the size reasonable and would have to find a nice high location to hang it with a good amount of chain to allow it to grow up
 
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