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po'thead

po'thead

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st0wandgrow said:
Consistent effort. That's what I'd like to see from him. Honestly, I haven't watched any games this series, but I did catch a couple Caps games from round 1, and he was floating whenever he didn't have the puck. That's not what a captain of a team should be doing in playoffs. He has had ZERO success in the post season where the intensity gets turned up, and I question his heart/character because of it.

Yes he shoots the puck a shit-ton (too much if you ask me), and yes he battles *at times* when he has a chance to get the puck, but have you watched him away from the play? He doesn't hustle on the back check, and he's constantly staring at the puck leaving guys wide open in dangerous areas of the ice. If you want to see what a true captain plays like in the playoffs, watch a guy like Dustin Brown with the Kings, or even your boy Callahan with the Rangers. Those guys are willing to pay the price to win a championship. I don't see that from Ovechkin.

There's a reason why he's been in and out of the doghouse with his coaches.
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Obviously you don't know anything about hockey. If Ovi was always going after the puck he would constantly be out of position. The problem in round one was that he had Chara and Seidenberg to deal with, this round he's dealing with the same thing, this is tight hockey we're seeing here. The days of the great 8 getting 150 foot passes for a break into the offensive zone are over, this is not the run and gun capitals anymore. For you to question his commitment in the playoffs is ridiculous, he has more points per game in the playoffs than anyone post lockout. Also how can you make a statement like that if you haven't watched any games in this series!? He's had plenty of grade A scoring chances in this series, there's just this guy who happens to be the best goalie in the world protecting the net. Try commenting on something that you know about.
 
Gamer621

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Wow, The Flyers look bad tonight. Not just bad, they look completely off their game. And that's saying a lot because the Devils don't look that great either.


One thing is for sure, it doesn't matter who wins this series as they're sure to be eliminated by whoever wins the rangers/caps series.
 
Amaximus

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The Devils and Flyers are not on the same level as the Rangers or the Capitals right now as far as I'm concerned.

Watching the past few games are like night and day compared to the checking game, defensive awareness and goal tending the Rangers & caps bring. Unless the Devils elevate their game and block some shots the Rangers or caps are gonna tear them up in the conference finals.

Anyway.....

Let's Go RANGERS!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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po'thead said:
Obviously you don't know anything about hockey. If Ovi was always going after the puck he would constantly be out of position. The problem in round one was that he had Chara and Seidenberg to deal with, this round he's dealing with the same thing, this is tight hockey we're seeing here. The days of the great 8 getting 150 foot passes for a break into the offensive zone are over, this is not the run and gun capitals anymore. For you to question his commitment in the playoffs is ridiculous, he has more points per game in the playoffs than anyone post lockout. Also how can you make a statement like that if you haven't watched any games in this series!? He's had plenty of grade A scoring chances in this series, there's just this guy who happens to be the best goalie in the world protecting the net. Try commenting on something that you know about.
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Would being a former NHL player qualify me as knowing a thing or two about hockey?
 
st0wandgrow

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pothead, were you watching the NBC broadcast of the game tonight? The announcers touched on exactly what I'm saying. On one play Ovechkin stopped in his zone and layed out to block a shot ..... the commentator said "if Ovechkin did this all of the time he'd be playing when the game is on the line".

In other words, consistent effort.

I'm sure when you're watching a game you stare at the puck for 60 minutes. Try watching Ovechkin away from the puck. His hustle (or lack there of) on the back check. His willingness to work as hard in the defensive zone as he does offensively. There is a reason that the Capitals not only haven't won a cup since he's been there, they haven't even made the finals, nor the conference finals. You can cite all of the offensive numbers you want, but that's not what I was even talking about. Nobody can deny his talent. He's an extremely gifted hockey player. His problems center around hustle, character, and leadership.

Having said all that he's been very good tonight. Let's see if he can keep his foot on the gas peddle. Some players eventually learn what it takes to win.
 
Gamer621

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st0wandgrow said:
pothead, were you watching the NBC broadcast of the game tonight? The announcers touched on exactly what I'm saying. On one play Ovechkin stopped in his zone and layed out to block a shot ..... the commentator said "if Ovechkin did this all of the time he'd be playing when the game is on the line".

In other words, consistent effort.

I'm sure when you're watching a game you stare at the puck for 60 minutes. Try watching Ovechkin away from the puck. His hustle (or lack there of) on the back check. His willingness to work as hard in the defensive zone as he does offensively. There is a reason that the Capitals not only haven't won a cup since he's been there, they haven't even made the finals, nor the conference finals. You can cite all of the offensive numbers you want, but that's not what I was even talking about. Nobody can deny his talent. He's an extremely gifted hockey player. His problems center around hustle, character, and leadership.

Having said all that he's been very good tonight. Let's see if he can keep his foot on the gas peddle. Some players eventually learn what it takes to win.
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I can't speak for last round but Ovi has been playing like this entire series. I could care less if your a former NHL player or not, Ovi has been playing just fine for this entire series.

Oh, as a side note. The commentators for nbc are fucking morons that don't know shit. I can't wait for the next round. Goodbye NBSHIT.
 
mindphuk

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Consistent effort, hard working grinder... Rangers captain, Ryan Callahan. This guy is working non-stop when he's on the ice.
 
st0wandgrow

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mindphuk said:
Consistent effort, hard working grinder... Rangers captain, Ryan Callahan. This guy is working non-stop when he's on the ice.
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Exactly! A player like Callahan is a true leader. He busts his balls every shift, at both ends of the ice, and is willing to do what ever it takes to win. That type of leadership is infectious, and is what is needed for a team to win a cup. Ovechkin has twice the talent that Callahan does, but is half the leader.

Look at the Detroit Red Wings. They have been the best team in the NHL for the past 2 decades because their best players are also their hardest working players. Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg ...all willing to sacrifice personal statistics for the benefit of the team. Datsyuk could put up 40+ goals and 100+ points every year if he wanted to be a puck whore like Ovechkin, but he doesn't. He leads the league every year in take aways, and is considered the best two way player in the game because he works hard all over the ice ... not just when the puck is on his stick.
 
Steve French

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I laughed when they cut to the display and it was going on about how the Rangers are already selling tickets to the next series. "They think they have already won."
 
Gamer621

Gamer621

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What, you guys weren't informed yet? The rangers have already won. They just like to clinch at home.
 
Amaximus

Amaximus

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po'thead said:
*Ahem* the Rags have to get there first. BRING ON GAME 7. LETS GO CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lol, Yeah. I was trying to be one of those obnoxious assholes about it. Of course the one time I act a fool the Rags make me look like a douche. I would have loved for them to win Game 6 but I'd be a liar if I said I didnt want them back at the garden for a win, no matter how asinine that sounds. heh.

Steve - All teams start selling playoff tickets before the next round is a "lock" - They've been on limited sale for 4 days now. Hell, I still have my Mets playoff tickets from several years back for a game that never happened. (Yes, They refunded my money - I didnt think they would)
 
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