nuglets
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i agree, need more info. can you exhaust into the ceiling by cutting a hole? you obviously are going to need to exhaust the heat from at least the light somewhere. what are the options?
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I have 2 gavita pro 1000s I have a 11x11 room, i cut the room in half it has a window and a door that leads to my enclosed back porch. the question i have is should i use the window AC i have or get a portable ac? what size portable would be good? also would the window ac suck out my room smells outside for all to smell? LOL. I thought i could get a portable ac and exhaust it onto my carbon filter and use my 6" fan to bring fresh air in from the window or cut a hole into my back porch door and pull air from there HELP !
nuglets
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if you already have the ballast and bulb then it's fine but in a 4x4 tent you really don't need anything more than 600w. trust me. the light footprint for a 600w at 5,000-10,000 footcandles is almost exactly 4x4. just a though to help with temps.
i'd switch those fans around if i were you. you don't need that much intake air. a 1000w hood really needs to be cleared and using "Y" ducts heavily reduces the CFM rating on fans. I woul use the big 8" fan to pull air through the hoods and the 6" fan as your intake. if anything you will be creating negative pressure in your tent this way which helps to cool it and also keeps any odor in the tents and not leaking into the room.
nuglets
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i would use the window a/c. they are WAY more efficient than portable a/c units. they don't mix air. they use outside air to cool the refrigerant coils and they only push the air from in the room over those coils to pull the heat out of it. definitely stick with the window a/c. they get some light odor leak on the cheap ones that are not dual chamber but you can fix that by just wrapping the front grate on the a/c with an extra layer of carbon pre filter. they sells sheets and rolls at any hardware store or anywhere they sell air purifiers. plus, the window a/c will save you a ton on electricity as opposed to the portable.
wheels619
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i think we switched something up here. lol. i would be using the 735cfm 8 inch with a dust shroom y'd into 2 4x4 tents as intake which should cut the cfms down to roughly 367 or so each tent. each tent would have a 400cfm 6 inch fan for exhaust for the light and the carbon filters. both 6 inch exhausts would after about 6-8 ft be y'd later into an 8 inch duct to help move the almost 800 cfms the 2 6 inch fans are said to move going thru it to the attic. my question is will the s 400 cfm fans be enough air movement to overcome the 735cfm fan set up this way? will it give me the negative presure that i need? the only reason im running so much circulation is becuz im not running ac and need the fresh air constantly from living so close to the beach. helps fight all the nasty pm and mold and shit.
Brother Numsi
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Nug,
I hope this site stays up for awhile. In case my friend is reluctant to cut holes in his house, what do you think of a VERY large grow tent in a garage...Danby feeding it cool air thru the intake opening and a Can 6" HO on the other end with the dual Lumatek running 2 400w MH to veg and 2 600w to finish? Other than a problem you'll see (LOL) I have no separate veg room and that really limits the number of harvests.
When you get a chance lets talk soil, pots, nutes, and transplants.
Thanks!
I hope this site stays up for awhile. In case my friend is reluctant to cut holes in his house, what do you think of a VERY large grow tent in a garage...Danby feeding it cool air thru the intake opening and a Can 6" HO on the other end with the dual Lumatek running 2 400w MH to veg and 2 600w to finish? Other than a problem you'll see (LOL) I have no separate veg room and that really limits the number of harvests.
When you get a chance lets talk soil, pots, nutes, and transplants.
Thanks!
nuglets
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hey bud, i was slightly confused but i still think you should change the setup.
for the hoods i would use 1 8" high output fan to pull through both hoods. you want to set the fan up after the "Y" and as close to the exhaust point as possible. mount it on the ceiling if you can. this will be a lot more efficient than 2 fans pushing air through all that ducting and the "Y". inline fans; or any fan for that matter; is much more efficient at pulling air then it is at pushing it.
then i would get cheap 4" fans for the intake on each tent. lose the "Y" and just stick each fan on a thermostat controller. that way they won't run if you don't need the cooling. will save you on electricity. plus it splits the two tents whcih is good because 1 tent may beed cooling while the other doesn't.
good luck.
nuglets
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grow tents ROCK!!
seriously though, i really like tents for situations like yours. if you are handy with tools and have some basic construction knowledge you can build one really easily. up to you though.i would go with 2 smaller tents in your situation though. if you can afford it. that way you have a veg tent and a flower tent. you can start vegging plants while the other ones are flowering. then when you harvest you will have plants ready to go into the flower tent instead of having to start from veg all over again. this way you get a harvest every 2 months. plus the veg tent can be used as a place to hang and dry your buds for a week. you won't need it right away.
you can just stick a fan and some ducting from the flower tent into the veg tent. stick the a/c in the flower tent and the fan in the veg tent on a thermostat controller.
i'm sending you a private message. check it out.
Brother Numsi
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I'll get back to you on the PM, thanks!
I thought about 2 tents...I figure about $550 for a flower tent to hold 6-8 mature plants and $300 or so for the veg tent. Not sure how big these tents need to be to maneuver around in there
I'm not a small guy.
So would the system look like:
A/C (may go with 13K BTU) into the large tent from outside the tent, two reflectors and 2 bulbs in the flower tent, connect with fan (6" HO or reg?) to the veg tent , what can we get away with for lighting in the veg tent? back to 1,000 MH or less?, and then an exhaust fan pulling the air out. That put one fan pulling out of the flower tent and one pulling out of the veg tent. Where exactly would the timer(s) and thermostat go? Also, are you suggesting that the A/C unit actually go inside the flower tent? I think we're getting close to a solution My friend with the house just backed out, so that leaves the less reliable friend. This shouldn't be that difficult LOL.
I thought about 2 tents...I figure about $550 for a flower tent to hold 6-8 mature plants and $300 or so for the veg tent. Not sure how big these tents need to be to maneuver around in there
I'm not a small guy.So would the system look like:
A/C (may go with 13K BTU) into the large tent from outside the tent, two reflectors and 2 bulbs in the flower tent, connect with fan (6" HO or reg?) to the veg tent , what can we get away with for lighting in the veg tent? back to 1,000 MH or less?, and then an exhaust fan pulling the air out. That put one fan pulling out of the flower tent and one pulling out of the veg tent. Where exactly would the timer(s) and thermostat go? Also, are you suggesting that the A/C unit actually go inside the flower tent? I think we're getting close to a solution
My friend with the house just backed out, so that leaves the less reliable friend. This shouldn't be that difficult LOL.
nuglets
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hey bud, i'd build two cheeap rooms out of 1x2's and drywall. gonna be a lot cheaper than tents. but if you are gonna get tents then i recommend growlab. that's what i use and i love them. great construction. for flower i thing the GL145L would be perfect (http://www.greners.com/i/grow-tents/growlab/growlab-portable-grow-rooms-gl145l.html). that will give you plenty of room for other equipment like the a/c and enough room to get around the plants. for the veg room it kinda depends. are you going to have moms and clones going or are you gonna start from seeds everytime? if you are gonna clone plants in there then you will need a larger tent to hold 6-8 vegging plants and 1 mom and a cloning station. maybe the GL120L (http://www.greners.com/i/grow-tents/growlab/growlab-portable-grow-rooms-gl120l.html). that will give you enough room for everything you would need.I'll get back to you on the PM, thanks!
I thought about 2 tents...I figure about $550 for a flower tent to hold 6-8 mature plants and $300 or so for the veg tent. Not sure how big these tents need to be to maneuver around in there)
So would the system look like:
A/C (may go with 13K BTU) into the large tent from outside the tent, two reflectors and 2 bulbs in the flower tent, connect with fan (6" HO or reg?) to the veg tent , what can we get away with for lighting in the veg tent? back to 1,000 MH or less?, and then an exhaust fan pulling the air out. That put one fan pulling out of the flower tent and one pulling out of the veg tent. Where exactly would the timer(s) and thermostat go? Also, are you suggesting that the A/C unit actually go inside the flower tent? I think we're getting close to a solution
i would place the a/c in the tent. having it running in the garage will be a pain and very inefficient. place it in the tent and then have some 4" ducting connecting the 2 tents and a 4" regular inline fan hooked up to a thermostat controller at the end of that ducting in the veg tent. that way when the veg tent needs cooling it will pull air from the flower tent. 2 400w lights are gonna be more expensive cause you have to buy 2 ballasts, 2 bulbs, and 2 hoods. but that would be the most efficient way to go. a 1000w light would be a cheaper way to go. whichever you decide will determine the veg tent you need to get.
you would need a carbon filter inside of the flower tent. a fan for the lights. a fan in the veg tent on a thermostat controller. and a fan for the lights in the veg tent.
Brother Numsi
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Hi Nug,
We're getting there, but as usual I'm a bit confused. First clarification...my original thought was to put the A/C in the garage and tape ducting around the blower and send it directly into the flower tent, pulling air from the garage.
By putting the A/C unit in the tent it's drawing warm air, isn't it?
We would be starting from seeds every time...no Mom or clones, so I figured the lighting and ballasts would be the same as if I were using my friend's house with the two rooms.
That said it would be a filter, reflector #1, 4" (not 6"?) ducting to reflector #2 (1st using a 400w MH, then change to 600W HPS) using the dual electronic ballast, then 4" (not 6") ducting to the duct exiting the flower room. Upon entry to the veg room used a 4" reg fan (not a 6"?) to pull the air out of the flower room into the veg room and that's where the thermostat would go, too? Then 4" ducting to the reflector with the 1000w MH with an electronic ballast, then 4" (not 6"?) ducting to the exit duct and another 4" (not 6") fan. I am missing the placement of one fan. Also what do I do with the entry duct in the flower room since I won't be pumping the A/C through it?
I have a Masters Degree, but was never a good standardized test taker and cannot visualize set ups..need a step by step picture for me. I think you probably see that from this communication. May all my buds be as dense as I am.
Patience is a virtue, oh virtuous one LOL.
Living The Dream
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hey guys...hope everyone is doing well.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Yep 5.8 kamie
Living The Dream
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hey kamie, i also grow in sunshine. i've always kept mine at 6.3. i treat it just like soil.
i thought 6.5 was best for soil? how do u like yours at 6.3? is there ever any issues?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Even in hydro you can go to 6.3 with to much if any issues, sinse sunshine is considered a soiless medium
it falls under a hydro medium. And should be treated as so
it falls under a hydro medium. And should be treated as so
Living The Dream
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soil is best at 6.3-6.8. you just have to find the range that works for you, the strain that you are growing, and the nutes that you use. every strain and nutrient will need you to tweak a little just as every medium is slightly different. my soil has worm castings in it so maybe that makes a little difference. i've always run it between 6.2-6.4. when it get's out of that range then i adjust to compensate.
hellraizer, i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one bud. even though it's soiless you should really treat it as soil. just like coco which is basically an inert medium often used in hydro but likes a pH a little higher in the 6.0 area. been using sunshine for a while and don't have any issues running her at 6.3 consistantly.
polyarcturus
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6.2 soiless or hydro or soil pH perfect regardless of buffer(soil and soiless, sometimes hydro) pHing feed will just extend its lifetime of effective pH buffering
ihavealotofquestions
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5.8 for hydro boyz.
yup yup.
yup yup.