Penn To Obama on Marijuana "he would not be president under his policies"

Corso312

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ohhh i am going to be making that spray all summer..thanks again...this bug did not look like any of those..you could not see the legs on this bug..like an inchworm but very small.
 

Dr Kynes

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ohhh i am going to be making that spray all summer..thanks again...this bug did not look like any of those..you could not see the legs on this bug..like an inchworm but very small.

make a lot at once, it keeps well if you store it in a closed sprayer away from sunlight. it really stinks when you cook it, and its easy to make a LOT i do it about 6x the amounts listed to last a few months. you can apply it with a hose end sprayer or a pressure sprayer, but seriously, wear goggles and a mask. and wash your hands before you touch anything you dont want to set on fire.
 

londonfog

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Hell no one likes Early Girls...Thanks guys for the lesson in corn.. Didn't know you could grow it on a small plot like you guys are doing..Might try my hand at it next year.
 

Dr Kynes

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Hell no one likes Early Girls...Thanks guys for the lesson in corn.. Didn't know you could grow it on a small plot like you guys are doing..Might try my hand at it next year.
Yeah, Early Girls only virtue is fast production. They taste barely better than store bought tomatoes, dont yield high enough to warrant the space they take, and are really a why bother variety. It's not too late to grow corn this year.. Till up a 5x5 patch and you can grow a couple bushels before september. I even once grew popcorn when i spilled some kernels from the bag, swept em up and tossed em into my yard for squirrels and whatnot. the kernels have slightly tough skins but are kinda tasty.

all corn really needs is support and shelter from the wind, plenty of sun and water, and enough nearby male flowers (tassels) to propagate ears. 3 corns in a pot can grow and produce in a glassed in porch.
 

crazyhazey

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tobacco sprays can be deadly to some plants, like tomatoes. Tobacco is a huge repository for tomato leaf curl virus, among others most large tomato growers dont allow tobacco products in their fields, neither smoked nor chewed. Nicotine can enter some plant's systems, killing them (tomatoes dont mind nicotine, but many plants just croak) or making you sick, or possibly hilariously addicted to broccoli (just kidding). I used a tobacco spray years ago and lost several plants overnight. as i recall, parsley carrots basil and some really young roses just snuffed it, so i havent used it since.

Hot pepper spray is safer, and mostly harmless. other than that sevin dust is good up till flowering/fruiting of edible/smokeable plants and neem oil has a good reputation. i never used that.
in my experience, spraying during flower can effect smell of the bud unless you give them a good rinse or spray with regular water. if its the 1-4 weeks into flowering, garlic, marigold, pepper, neem, and a very small amount of canola oil would be fine(i would use a teaspoon every gallon or so, shake well before spray and try to hit the bottoms of the leaves especially). for the 5th to last weeks of flower, i would only use marigold, neem, and tiny bits of garlic(that after-spray with reg water should eliminate any smell). spraying your top soil/outside of your pots is also good to deter mites/aphids, just look under your leaves especially, thats where theyll hide.
 

Mr Neutron

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you do know the law for alcohol in the USA is 21 not 18...so you want it to be allowed at 18 ??? You also insinuate that with parental supervision that it could be smoked at the age of 10... is this correct ???
No, I did not know that. When I was 18, the state I lived in, the drinking age was 21 but 10 miles away was a state that allowed 18 yr olds to drink. After turning 21, I never paid much attention to it.
I think if you are old enough to join the military, vote and drive a car... you should be able to drink alcohol.
Yes, with parental supervision.
 

londonfog

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No, I did not know that. When I was 18, the state I lived in, the drinking age was 21 but 10 miles away was a state that allowed 18 yr olds to drink. After turning 21, I never paid much attention to it.
I think if you are old enough to join the military, vote and drive a car... you should be able to drink alcohol.
Yes, with parental supervision.
yup I think Louisiana was the last state for it to be 18 but they even changed it to 21 a few years back. I like the 21 age to drink, but I do understand the argument for military and voting age should be allowed. Old enough to die for your country you should be able to drink. You can drive at 15-16 and no way in hell would I want my child drinking at 16 ( or smoking weed for that matter).
 

Mr Neutron

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yup I think Louisiana was the last state for it to be 18 but they even changed it to 21 a few years back. I like the 21 age to drink, but I do understand the argument for military and voting age should be allowed. Old enough to die for your country you should be able to drink. You can drive at 15-16 and no way in hell would I want my child drinking at 16 ( or smoking weed for that matter).
Are you saying the voting age and age limit to join the military should be 21?
 

londonfog

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Are you saying the voting age and age limit to join the military should be 21?
no ...I'm just glad the age is 21 to drink, but I do understand anyones argument that it should be younger due to the fact you can vote and die for your country at 18. I just wouldn't want a bunch of 18 year olds with a free pass to get drunk whenever the wanted. With drinking comes responsibilty as well.
 

desert dude

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fair enough. but he is self righteous as fuck.
What is self-righteous about making politicians pay for their anti-liberty philosophy and actions?

If you tell Obamney, "I hate your position on the drug war, but you have my vote" then he will laugh at you and violently slip you the chimi chonga. The only way to change the political situation is to create real consequences for politicians.
 

Canna Sylvan

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What is self-righteous about making politicians pay for their anti-liberty philosophy and actions?

If you tell Obamney, "I hate your position on the drug war, but you have my vote" then he will laugh at you and violently slip you the chimi chonga. The only way to change the political situation is to create real consequences for politicians.
No one's slipping me the chimichanga unless it's vegan!
 

Dr Kynes

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no ...I'm just glad the age is 21 to drink, but I do understand anyones argument that it should be younger due to the fact you can vote and die for your country at 18. I just wouldn't want a bunch of 18 year olds with a free pass to get drunk whenever the wanted. With drinking comes responsibilty as well.
Selecting arbitrary ages for unfettered access to liquor, tobacco, guns etc... is a sound policy for a government, but suggesting that the difference between 18 and 21 is in any way significant is kinda silly. never in the history of humanity has a motivated teenage lad been prevented from acquiring his preferred intoxicant. As well to try and hold back the ocean with a tea towel.

furthermore, parents have always had final discretion in the use of anything for their kids. the age limits on gun purchases are really quite new, and 50 years ago you wouldnt have been able to pass those laws. expressing disdain for somebody else's personal choice in intoxicants is the height of hypocrisy. I like cannabis, booze peyote and coffee, some people like cocaine, pcp, lsd, heroine, or some other chemical brain lubricant. If they like it, and use it responsibly thats just fine with me.

i know a lot of mormons, and they generally dont care for any of the shit i like, but they also dont try and stop me from enjoying my favorite chemicals as long as im responsible. Thats why im not afraid of Mitt Romney. Even in Utah you can find a starbucks, and buy a pack of camels, or a sixer of Lowenbrau. Mormons may be uptight, but if they really wanted to do it, they could ban, or put a minimum drinking age on your cinnamon dusted skinny soy latte in utah.
 

Corso312

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europeans let kids drink wine at an early age...parents need to teach kids how to handle and not abuse liquor ..making dumb ass laws only forces it underground and behind the parents back....i would prefer my kid to drink at my home and not drive ..then to be in parks or on railroad tracks with their friends drinking and driving...the problem is this country has turned into a bunch of pussies and everybody sues everyone...so a parent can not let their kid have 2 or 3 friends over for a few beers because the cops and other parents would overreact.
 

londonfog

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Selecting arbitrary ages for unfettered access to liquor, tobacco, guns etc... is a sound policy for a government, but suggesting that the difference between 18 and 21 is in any way significant is kinda silly.
I don't know ...I was a totally different person at 21 then I was at 18 ..I would hope that you would be a different person when you left college then when you went in...The same for if you first joined the military and 3 years later..
 

londonfog

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europeans let kids drink wine at an early age...parents need to teach kids how to handle and not abuse liquor ..making dumb ass laws only forces it underground and behind the parents back....i would prefer my kid to drink at my home and not drive ..then to be in parks or on railroad tracks with their friends drinking and driving...the problem is this country has turned into a bunch of pussies and everybody sues everyone...so a parent can not let their kid have 2 or 3 friends over for a few beers because the cops and other parents would overreact.
so you would let your 16 year old girl drink at home with 2 or three of her buddies ????
 
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