UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
zimmerman spotted martin near the northwest part of the complex initially. zimm was leaving his home in the SW part of the complex headed north to the north entrance. martin was coming through a gap behind the houses from the 7/11. he was coming from that area because the gates close at 7pm there. martin got back from the 7/11 after 7pm, evidence shows.According to you Zimmerman was "chasing" Martin, now you say Zimmerman was in front of Martin? One or the other could be true, but not both.
now, a black male coming out from behind some houses in the rain and the dark wearing a hoodie might look suspicious. we can all admit that.
so they meet for the first time, with zimm noticing martin coming out from behind the houses, on martin's direct path home. maybe a look is exchanged, maybe zimmerman is suspicious and gives young martin the stink eye, maybe not. but something prompts zimmerman to make a call to non-emergency dispatch for a suspicious looking fellow.
zimm starts to react. he picks up his cell, calls non emergency dispatch (likely on speed dial or recent contacts, waits in queue for a minute or so, and parks his truck at a location that he describes as past the mailboxes, make a left.
we can deduce from what he says on the call and the location of the clubhouse and zimmerman's self-described location that zimm stopped and backed up and turned around to face the clubhouse.
martin is coming from the NW to the SE to get home. he walks down the sidewalk either in front of or behind the clubhouse towards where zimm has parked his truck. zimmerman is parked right in martin's way home. remember, these two had some contact previously.
this is the part in the call where zimm says "he'c checking me out" (paraphrasing) and "he's coming towards me", "he has his hand in his waistband", "there's something wrong with him"...and other such assessments/profiling.
martin was just a little high. he was on the phone, he had ear pieces. he was not holding the phone to his ear. he had his hands in his pockets, talking on the ohone, carrying some skittles and iced tea. he was trying to talk to his girlfriend, and had some guy seemingly following him.
he eyes this guy up, his girlfriend tells him to run. he runs. zimmerman even says so. "he ran", "i've lost him", "i don't know where this kid is"...
martin ran to the south, "down towards the back entrance" as zimm describes it. in previous calls like this, all featuring exclusively black males, he has described the back entrance as just a passage for them to go steal from the other subdivision.
so martin's home is in the SE part of the complex. martin is running south, or walking quickly at first, until zimm gets out of his truck. martin could have run off to the east or west. if he ran to the east, towards home, he lost zimm just after his girlfriend called back and told her so. ditto if he ran west.
in any case, a few minutes pass between martin losing zimmerman after the first chase and the second chase/third and final contact. in this time, zimmerman sounds all confused and fucked up, and tells the dispatcher not to have the police meet him at a certain location. he wants the police to call him for his location at the time, because he does not want to be at a fixed location.
so zimm hangs up and does some hunting. or maybe he just starts walking back to his truck, looking for martin along the way behind the cut throughs behind houses.
whatever happened, the final confrontation happened in a location where it is impossible that zimmerman was simply returning to his truck or looking for an address. all of martin's possessions were found in the grass. witnesses all describe the scuffle happening in the grass.
so there was a scuffle, but it was not a big one. it was over in 30-45 seconds, and we hear 45 seconds of screaming for help before the final shot.
smart money is on zimmerman trying to detain martin, martin getting a few hits on zimm, but ultimately being held at gunpoint by zimm. zimm, in a state of mental overload, mistakes martin's screams and squirms as a reach for his weapon, and fires. or maybe zimm was just an asshole deep inside and lost his mind for a moment.
who knows.