PROOF that GOD Exists......
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NetGuruINC
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LOL, im being ATTACKED by these two! ehehe this is very entertaining to me, Ok check it out fellas, listen. This is just a FORUM. There is no need to pour your personal feelings out on a FORUM. I DO NOT believe DMT has anything to do with these experiences and I have the right to my opinion just as you do yours.
I have given you the right to your opinion why cant you give me mine? Why are u guys so angry? Ok, you believe I have 0 proof and that I dont know what im talking about. You stated that 3 pages ago, why are you repeating yourself? Jeez man its not that serious, just a forum man
crazyhazey
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so, i just wanted to show much sense you have really made, remember these are your words so dont deny it.
i wasnt aware my experience with the drug DMT wasnt relevant when we we're talking about proving god through the sights that people have seen when the large dosage of the same "controlled substance" was released in their brain, but obviously my experience with the very drug that induces these visions has nothing to do with this matter. in fact, its "silly" to you.
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NetGuruINC
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Once again, thankyou for making my thread so interesting, ive literally gotten 18 messages from users in the past hour asking who else im subscribed to on youtube. For anyone else who wants to know you can just subscribe to my channel and ill update videos as I come across them, message me for my youtube nameYou have the right to have your opinion - why are you attacking us for ours. Don't get angry when I take these three doctors opinion over the self admitted drug abuser/alcoholic (not you, the first video I got on youtube on the subject).
ineverveg
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that being the case ,why can't you accept the scientific answer to your nde hallucinations.
what scientists can figure out with carbon dating is that the turin shroud is from the middle ages, therefor so is jesus , and the church won't let anyone test other historical finds as they would get the wrong date as well lol
why any god would allow half of his representatives to beast and nonce the children from their churches needs some explanation, you can understand that he isn't bothering himself to stop disasters and famine ect, but he could sort out his peedo priests ....
Gastanker
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Why don't you let us know your opinion of these studies? I assume you just think the doctors/scientists are lying?
[h=2]Abstract[/h]The Near-Death Experience (NDE) is a dissociative mental state with characteristic features. These can be reproduced by ketamine which acts at sigma sites and blocks N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) linked phencyclidine (PCP) receptors to reduce ischaemic damage. Endogenous ligands, alpha and beta-endopsychosin, have been detected for these receptors which suggests an explanation for some NDE's: the endopsychosins may be released in abnormal quantity to protect neurons from ischaemic and other excitotoxic damage, and the NDE is a side effect on consciousness with important psychological functions.
[h=2]Abstract[/h]The Near-Death Experience (NDE) is a dissociative mental state with characteristic features. These can be reproduced by ketamine which acts at sigma sites and blocks N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) linked phencyclidine (PCP) receptors to reduce ischaemic damage. Endogenous ligands, alpha and beta-endopsychosin, have been detected for these receptors which suggests an explanation for some NDE's: the endopsychosins may be released in abnormal quantity to protect neurons from ischaemic and other excitotoxic damage, and the NDE is a side effect on consciousness with important psychological functions.
crazyhazey
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you can victimize yourself, or justify yourself. i guarantee the first one isnt gonna get you any more support than you have now.
and let me get this straight, so basically, your gonna take your opinion over a fact, remember, its an opinion when there is no proof, you seem to not know how to use the words opinion and fact. and i wasnt aware that you cant accept facts, remember, facts, they have proof that the pinneal gland releases DMT when you die, but you deny facts, and you obviously have never done any more DMT than you have whenever you dream(deny this all you want too, its still not an opinion) so you cannot begin to tell me what does and doesnt cause a near death experience, im sure if you tried the so called "controlled substance" you wouldnt be so ignorant towards the fact that NDE's are only caused by DMT, it might actually make sense to you, and maybe you could stop using god as your shortcut to answer thing like the rest of america.
so tell me, is the sky purple? you seem like you could convince yourself that and argue about it for hours, and still tell someone its their opinion when they tell you the sky is blue.
NetGuruINC
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Well GOD doesnt allow anything, we ALL have free will. Imagine if you controlled a big group of robots and forced them to do good things. How would you feel as a creator? Would you feel respected? No you wouldnt because you know the only reason their doing good is because your FORCING them to. The ONLY way you could feel respected is if you gave them the opportunity to do bad things, but they still did good things with complete free will. THAT is what makes a creator feel respected and loved, when a person has every opportunity to do bad, but they chose to do good instead. Just my opinion....
that being the case ,why can't you accept the scientific answer to your nde hallucinations.
what scientists can figure out with carbon dating is that the turin shroud is from the middle ages, therefor so is jesus , and the church won't let anyone test other historical finds as they would get the wrong date as well lol
why any god would allow half of his representatives to beast and nonce the children from their churches needs some explanation, you can understand that he isn't bothering himself to stop disasters and famine ect, but he could sort out his peedo priests ....
kpmarine
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OP, you are ignoring the fact that this is not a randomized sample of people who have clinically died, thus making it irrelevant to anything. If I was clinically dead, and had no NDE, I would have no reason to make a video telling people about my NDE. Therefore, your videos only prove that some people have an NDE. It proves nothing more, they don't all have the exact same experience even. In a study done of people who had suffered cardiac arrest, only 18% even had an NDE. So if NDE's are proof of an afterlife, most of us are not invited.
NetGuruINC
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I gotta get back to the office I have a company to run, id love to sit and entertain this more ill log back in a few hours from now...... I appreciate the comments...
NetGuruINC
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Your opinion is respected, as I stated it was just for viewers to come to their own conclusion.
crazyhazey
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HOLY FUCK ITS ON YOUTUBE IT HAS TO BE TRUE!?
im quitting asap, i dont wanna smoke satan!
btw i wish i could like this post a thousand times, that old guys too funny.
kpmarine
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Just out of curiosity, how can you believe that 18% of people having experiences that do not always correlate is evidence of god's existence? I mean, how do you rationalize it? I'm genuinely trying to understand how you came to your conclusion. That means for every 18 clinically dead and resuscitated people who have an NDE, 82 clinically dead and resuscitated people did not have one. Then, amongst the 18, not everyone even experienced the same thing. I can't see how any reliable conclusions could be drawn, but maybe I'm missing something.