LOL, im being ATTACKED by these two! ehehe this is very entertaining to me, Ok check it out fellas, listen. This is just a FORUM. There is no need to pour your personal feelings out on a FORUM. I DO NOT believe DMT has anything to do with these experiences and I have the right to my opinion just as you do yours.you changed you stance on this subject like 3 times, first it seemed like you acted like DMT has nothing to do with this, then claimed DMT is a controlled substance, then continued to tell us you knew the whole time that it existed in your body. so, please tell us, do you still believe things seen in near death experience are fact? id love to know how your opinion has changed. noticed i used opinion, because you have 0 proof. thats what an opinion means, but hey, im sure you knew that too right?
i wasnt aware my experience with the drug DMT wasnt relevant when we we're talking about proving god through the sights that people have seen when the large dosage of the same "controlled substance" was released in their brain, but obviously my experience with the very drug that induces these visions has nothing to do with this matter. in fact, its "silly" to you.Also, your using an experience from a controlled substance as an offense to debate a matter like this? How silly is that?
oh, geez.This is a hot thread. I can spot 'em a mile away.
Once again, thankyou for making my thread so interesting, ive literally gotten 18 messages from users in the past hour asking who else im subscribed to on youtube. For anyone else who wants to know you can just subscribe to my channel and ill update videos as I come across them, message me for my youtube nameYou have the right to have your opinion - why are you attacking us for ours. Don't get angry when I take these three doctors opinion over the self admitted drug abuser/alcoholic (not you, the first video I got on youtube on the subject).
......Scientist only accept proof from things that can be measured. If it cant be measured then science will always rule it out. For this simple fact alone, a scientist is the last person you want to listen to, because they are completely closed minded. I mean come on think about it, the earth has been here for millions of years, a human being only lives about 80 years including scientist. It's baffling to me when people talk about "scientific proof", compared to how long this earth has been here the human race has only been alive for 2 minutes. Literally...... so how much could a scientist/human being possibly know? Lol
Everyone on this forum hasnt been here for more than 80 years, and on top of that I bet only 1 or two people have a degree in this field and they probably arent even logged on right now. The earth has been here for millions of years, and somehow people think theyve got it all figured out, THATS hilarious to me....
you can victimize yourself, or justify yourself. i guarantee the first one isnt gonna get you any more support than you have now.LOL, im being ATTACKED by these two! ehehe this is very entertaining to me, Ok check it out fellas, listen. This is just a FORUM. There is no need to pour your personal feelings out on a FORUM. I DO NOT believe DMT has anything to do with these experiences and I have the right to my opinion just as you do yours.
I have given you the right to your opinion why cant you give me mine? Why are u guys so angry? Ok, you believe I have 0 proof and that I dont know what im talking about. You stated that 3 pages ago, why are you repeating yourself? Jeez man its not that serious, just a forum man
Well GOD doesnt allow anything, we ALL have free will. Imagine if you controlled a big group of robots and forced them to do good things. How would you feel as a creator? Would you feel respected? No you wouldnt because you know the only reason their doing good is because your FORCING them to. The ONLY way you could feel respected is if you gave them the opportunity to do bad things, but they still did good things with complete free will. THAT is what makes a creator feel respected and loved, when a person has every opportunity to do bad, but they chose to do good instead. Just my opinion..........
that being the case ,why can't you accept the scientific answer to your nde hallucinations.
what scientists can figure out with carbon dating is that the turin shroud is from the middle ages, therefor so is jesus , and the church won't let anyone test other historical finds as they would get the wrong date as well lol
why any god would allow half of his representatives to beast and nonce the children from their churches needs some explanation, you can understand that he isn't bothering himself to stop disasters and famine ect, but he could sort out his peedo priests ....
Your opinion is respected, as I stated it was just for viewers to come to their own conclusion.OP, you are ignoring the fact that this is not a randomized sample of people who have clinically died, thus making it irrelevant to anything. If I was clinically dead, and had no NDE, I would have no reason to make a video telling people about my NDE. Therefore, your videos only prove that some people have an NDE. It proves nothing more, they don't all have the exact same experience even. In a study done of people who had suffered cardiac arrest, only 18% even had an NDE. So if NDE's are proof of an afterlife, most of us are not invited.
HOLY FUCK ITS ON YOUTUBE IT HAS TO BE TRUE!?PROOF! Marijuana is SATAN!! Can't argue with it, it's PROOF! You tube = proof right?
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Just out of curiosity, how can you believe that 18% of people having experiences that do not always correlate is evidence of god's existence? I mean, how do you rationalize it? I'm genuinely trying to understand how you came to your conclusion. That means for every 18 clinically dead and resuscitated people who have an NDE, 82 clinically dead and resuscitated people did not have one. Then, amongst the 18, not everyone even experienced the same thing. I can't see how any reliable conclusions could be drawn, but maybe I'm missing something.Your opinion is respected, as I stated it was just for viewers to come to their own conclusion.