Should we have picked our own damn cotton?

[Illegal Smile]

Then it should be quite easy to shut me up with evidence of your claim.

I'm not going to waste my time finding links on the obvious for you. Go ahead and think what you want to think, we can all see you just can't bring yourself to take a stand.

You, like all libruls, are glad slavery happened because without it a big chunk of your constituency would be gone.

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm not going to waste my time finding links on the obvious for you. Go ahead and think what you want to think, we can all see you just can't bring yourself to take a stand.

You, like all libruls, are glad slavery happened because without it a big chunk of your constituency would be gone.

Deciphering...

"I'm not going to ever attempt to premise anything I say, I'm just going to make wild assertions and hope people take for granted that it is obvious and concur. Since I can't circumvent your logic, I am going to accuse you of being a reverse racist since all I want to do is spew racist rhetoric. I believe that all the problems in the country are attributable to minorities"

 

[desert dude]

I just answered. I told you that there would have been an entire continent of affluent blacks had your ancestors never had a colonial period. Cecil Rhodes assured a poor Africa for posterity.

Are you aware that Cecil Rhodes was white? Rhodesia was named after him until its name changed to Zimbabwe. Rhodesia was a very prosperous country until it became Zimbabwe under Mugabe. Zimbabwe is now the poster child for corruption, poverty and hyper inflation.

Poor choice for an example of a prosperous Africa.

 

[abandonconflict]

Are you aware that Cecil Rhodes was white? Rhodesia was named after him until its name changed to Zimbabwe. Rhodesia was a very prosperous country until it became Zimbabwe under Mugabe. Zimbabwe is now the poster child for corruption, poverty and hyper inflation.

Poor choice for an example of a prosperous Africa.

Cecil Rhodes was one of the richest men in history. How did he become that way?

You can't begin to imagine how Africa would have been had colonialism never occurred, but it did occur. Since the point of this thread is speculation on a what if...

What if my aunt had balls?

She would be my uncle.

 

[desert dude]

Cecil Rhodes was one of the richest men in history. How did he become that way?

You can't begin to imagine how Africa would have been had colonialism never occurred, but it did occur. Since the point of this thread is speculation on a what if...

What if my aunt had balls?

She would be my uncle.

I was just pointing out that whatever prosperity Zimbabwe once had was squandered by the current, very racist thug in power, Mugabe.

 

[scroglodyte]

my family were serfs during all that...................the only cotton we owned was on our backs.
black Americans have made this country stronger, imo. and more vibrant. don't get me wrong. no one hates that "i's put on my's monkey suit" mentality more than me, but i don't care for low-class whites either. a workin' stiff black man has more in common with me than some rich white guy.

 

[abandonconflict]

I was just pointing out that whatever prosperity Zimbabwe once had was squandered by the current, very racist thug in power, Mugabe.

What about before Rhodes came to exploit the country's resources? The indigenous tribes were doing fine, they didn't benefit from colonization overall. Whether it is valid or not, the conclusion that you two are trying to reach, which is that all these African booty scratchers needed white people to come and implement a modern society for them is just Eurocentric. White society isn't so civilized, I have been to war, we as a people are savage.

 

[ru4r34l]

I've learned that name-calling and profanity are the same effort of the feeble-minded here. When profanity is used, I reference profanity. As for most affluent blacks - again, blacks in america are by far the most affluent blacks in the world. That is indisputable.

Because you were improperly taught something does not make it right , indisuputable, why because you said so or did you do the research?

Again your making a fool of yourself with your own posts. Ever heard of Bermuda, Bermuda's GDP was $91477 per-capita a year, giving BERMUDA the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD.

Heard of the Hudson Valley Press, they ran a story named "The world's richest blacks aren't in the U.S"

I'm sure you know of MSNBC - Affluent black county mired in mortgage mess

Oh yeah, your claim is undisputable. LOL

regards,

 

[Illegal Smile]

Black americans are proud of the fact that they are the world's most affluent blacks. For example:

http://www.voicesincolor.com/voices_in_color/2008/03/worlds-wealthie.html

 

[abandonconflict]

Black americans are proud of the fact that they are the world's most affluent blacks. For example:

http://www.voicesincolor.com/voices_in_color/2008/03/worlds-wealthie.html

As long as they can only get rich by making rap music and playing sports...when they want to be president, then you have a problem with em.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Because you were improperly taught something does not make it right , indisuputable, why because you said so or did you do the research?

Again your making a fool of yourself with your own posts. Ever heard of Bermuda, Bermuda's GDP was $91477 per-capita a year, giving BERMUDA the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD.

Heard of the Hudson Valley Press, they ran a story named "The world's richest blacks aren't in the U.S"

I'm sure you know of MSNBC - Affluent black county mired in mortgage mess

Oh yeah, your claim is undisputable. LOL

regards,

I think you are purposely trying to distort the truth. Surely you don't think everyone in Bermuda is black? And while it is true that the richest individual blacks in the world may not be in america, that has nothing to do with the question at hand which is about a collective population of blacks. You're just wrong all over the place.

 

[desert dude]

What about before Rhodes came to exploit the country's resources? The indigenous tribes were doing fine, they didn't benefit from colonization overall. Whether it is valid or not, the conclusion that you two are trying to reach, which is that all these African booty scratchers needed white people to come and implement a modern society for them is just Eurocentric. White society isn't so civilized, I have been to war, we as a people are savage.

All of mankind has engaged in warfare for all of recorded history, it ain't solely a white thang, we are ALL savage. I am open to a counter example of a modern, prosperous African country. The only other one that comes to mind is South Africa.

Whether the indigenous tribes of Rhodesia benefited from colonization is somewhat irrelevant. The fact is, you can't stop progress.

 

[desert dude]

As long as they can only get rich by making rap music and playing sports...when they want to be president, then you have a problem with em.

You do realize that in 2008 Americans elected a mostly black man to the presidency, right? Do you see electing a black person to the presidency as a problem?

 

[abandonconflict]

You do realize that in 2008 Americans elected a mostly black man to the presidency, right? Do you see electing a black person to the presidency as a problem?

I don't see it as a problem at all...

Do you?

 

[desert dude]

I don't see it as a problem at all...

Do you?

Besides the fact our president has a done a generally shitty job, and that he has continued and even escalated all of George Bush's worst programs, and that his justice department has escalated the war on drugs and turned a blind eye to voter intimidation when expedient, and he spent us into huge debt by doling out money to his cronies (Solyndra, for example), etc... Beside all that, I have no more criticism.

 

[abandonconflict]

Besides the fact our president has a done a generally shitty job, and that he has continued and even escalated all of George Bush's worst programs, and that his justice department has escalated the war on drugs and turned a blind eye to voter intimidation when expedient, and he spent us into huge debt by doling out money to his cronies (Solyndra, for example), etc... Beside all that, I have no more criticism.

If you expected him to come in and sweepingly change everything whilst the GOP attempted to block his every action, you are more of a revolutionary than I thought. BRAVO! I like it.

He definitely took his sweet ass time though. I'll definitely say I dislike that. However, "even escalated all of [Dubya's] worst programs" isn't exactly being honest either. How about the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest? How about the Iraq War? When you talk of escalating, I get the sense we are both angry for the same reason, conflict. I could be wrong, you may love war, but I don't think so. So I look at the escalation of the wars. The entire government has an agenda, that includes war and the president just reads a teleprompter. In the last 4 years, the thing I have noticed the most about the wars, is that we are winning. I don't give Obama credit for that though, so I don't blame him either. Just my two cents on that subject.

War on drugs? If anyone here will answer the call to show some evidence for a claim, it has to be you, don't let me down...

Who has been busted even if they were compliant with state and local laws?

 

[desert dude]

If you expected him to come in and sweepingly change everything whilst the GOP attempted to block his every action, you are more of a revolutionary than I thought. BRAVO! I like it.

He definitely took his sweet ass time though. I'll definitely say I dislike that. However, "even escalated all of [Dubya's] worst programs" isn't exactly being honest either. How about the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest? How about the Iraq War? When you talk of escalating, I get the sense we are both angry for the same reason, conflict. I could be wrong, you may love war, but I don't think so. So I look at the escalation of the wars. The entire government has an agenda, that includes war and the president just reads a teleprompter. In the last 4 years, the thing I have noticed the most about the wars, is that we are winning. I don't give Obama credit for that though, so I don't blame him either. Just my two cents on that subject.

War on drugs? If anyone here will answer the call to show some evidence for a claim, it has to be you, don't let me down...

Who has been busted even if they were compliant with state and local laws?

I'm no fan of war. The Iraq war ended on the time table that Bush established and it only ended because the Iraqis refused to establish a status of forces agreement with the US, so that is not an Obama accomplishment.

The news papers and blogs are filled with the Obama crackdown on state-legal medical operations, so I won't rehash it. The Holder memo that everybody quotes as Obama's deference to state law end with this paragraph:

"Finally, nothing herein precludes investigation or prosecution where there is a reasonable basis to believe that compliance with state law is being invoked as a pretext for the production or distribution of marijuana for purposes not authorized by state law. Nor does this guidance preclude investigation or prosecution, even when there is clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law, in particular circumstances where investigation or prosecution otherwise serves important federal interests. "

http://blogs.justice.gov/main/archives/192

Now, I ask you, does that sentence promise the feds will leave legally compliant medical marijuana operations alone?

 

[TexRx]

Yes, all of the dumb white mofo's should have been doing everything themselves, ...How lazy can you get? Let's go sailing for 6 months and when we reach africa, we'll start wars and bring back 'negros' to grow our corn, pick our cotton, cook our food and even raise our kids + we'll treat them like shit and kill them for anything - including lies

What a waste

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm no fan of war. The Iraq war ended on the time table that Bush established and it only ended because the Iraqis refused to establish a status of forces agreement with the US, so that is not an Obama accomplishment.

The news papers and blogs are filled with the Obama crackdown on state-legal medical operations, so I won't rehash it. The Holder memo that everybody quotes as Obama's deference to state law end with this paragraph:

"Finally, nothing herein precludes investigation or prosecution where there is a reasonable basis to believe that compliance with state law is being invoked as a pretext for the production or distribution of marijuana for purposes not authorized by state law. Nor does this guidance preclude investigation or prosecution, even when there is clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law, in particular circumstances where investigation or prosecution otherwise serves important federal interests. "

http://blogs.justice.gov/main/archives/192

Now, I ask you, does that sentence promise the feds will leave legally compliant medical marijuana operations alone?

The link did not cite even a single anecdote. You CAN NOT show proof can you? Direct challenge, show me direct even a couple anecdotal cases to back this claim so they may be explicated, if it is found that "people are being busted despite being state compliant", you will see me accept it as a truth. That is plural, so please, two clear cut cases of a violation of the holder memo that can't be attributed to actual crimes.

 

[desert dude]

The link did not cite even a single anecdote. You CAN NOT show proof can you? Direct challenge, show me direct even a couple anecdotal cases to back this claim so they may be explicated, if it is found that "people are being busted despite being state compliant", you will see me accept it as a truth. That is plural, so please, two clear cut cases of a violation of the holder memo that can't be attributed to actual crimes.

If you bother to read the Holder memo, which I quoted, you will realize that it is not possible to "violate" it.

"Nor does this guidance preclude investigation or prosecution, even when there is clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law, in particular circumstances where investigation or prosecution otherwise serves important federal interests. "