Why I don't believe in god

[mindphuk]

I can understand why some people don't believe in God. It's the way they taught or the environment they were exposed to. Some things may have left a bad taste or seem confusing. I will try to answer some of the questions I see because I had a time in my life where I doubted God existed. I was in my late teens back then. As I grew older and studied and researched along the way, I found that God is indeed real. I have had too many prayers answered and I have seen miracles happen. That's how I know He is real. We are genetically engineered to connect spiritually with God but He will only come into our life if we ask Him. The bible stands for : basic instruction before leaving earth. I didn't understand most of the bible until I started studying it and listening to others talk about it. It is a book full of lessons, instructions, songs, poetry and history. It is meant to teach us the path to living our best life. A religion is not the same as the the RELATIONSHIP between us and God. A wonderful book to read is "In Defense of Faith" by David Brog. It is not a religious book at all. The book talks about what the Judeo-Christian culture has brought to the world. Very interesting. Even the American atheist has beliefs that came from this culture. Did you know that there was an 11th Commandment? Yep. Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you". The more we aspire to God's way, the better our lives get. I would say it is supernatural how it works. When Haiti had the big earthquake, the very first decent camp with food and a way to clean up and a place to sleep was a church. They went right to work getting things in order. If we live for the glory of God, He will give us more than we dreamed of. I am not talking about religious acts, but about having a heart with love in it to where we value other human life. You know how germs cannot be seen but we know they are there? Well, God is way bigger than what we can see but He is there. God Bless you all.

You come to a marijuana website and your second post is here repeating vapid platitudes about religion?

You sound like an atheist 12-stepper that has to rationalize to yourself why you believe in a higher power. So god answers prayers but sometimes the answer is 'no,' right? I would bet a load of money that the miracles you have seen have nothing to do with actually violating physical laws, the things most people would agree is miraculous. Does the bible really give you a path to living a good life or do you have to do what most people do and discard 90% of it to do so? Actually reading the bible is the fastest way to become a non-believer.

Most people have no problem with a person that says they believe in a god but when you claim that "god is indeed real" prepare to be criticized and defend your claims.

 

[afrawfraw]

I can understand why some people don't believe in God. It's the way they taught or the environment they were exposed to. Some things may have left a bad taste or seem confusing. I will try to answer some of the questions I see because I had a time in my life where I doubted God existed. I was in my late teens back then. As I grew older and studied and researched along the way, I found that God is indeed real. I have had too many prayers answered and I have seen miracles happen. That's how I know He is real. We are genetically engineered to connect spiritually with God but He will only come into our life if we ask Him. The bible stands for : basic instruction before leaving earth. I didn't understand most of the bible until I started studying it and listening to others talk about it. It is a book full of lessons, instructions, songs, poetry and history. It is meant to teach us the path to living our best life. A religion is not the same as the the RELATIONSHIP between us and God. A wonderful book to read is "In Defense of Faith" by David Brog. It is not a religious book at all. The book talks about what the Judeo-Christian culture has brought to the world. Very interesting. Even the American atheist has beliefs that came from this culture. Did you know that there was an 11th Commandment? Yep. Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you". The more we aspire to God's way, the better our lives get. I would say it is supernatural how it works. When Haiti had the big earthquake, the very first decent camp with food and a way to clean up and a place to sleep was a church. They went right to work getting things in order. If we live for the glory of God, He will give us more than we dreamed of. I am not talking about religious acts, but about having a heart with love in it to where we value other human life. You know how germs cannot be seen but we know they are there? Well, God is way bigger than what we can see but He is there. God Bless you all.

ALL children are born Atheist=FACT!

Atheists are natural. You were born that way. You were free at birth, fuck everyone who won't let you see that. You don't need a master to accomplish anything. You are capable of anything on your own. Damn the bastards that told you otherwise.

75% of Americans claim Christianity. So does 75% of our prison population. Atheists comprise approximately 10% of the American population, yet only .2% of prisoners are atheists. We are also less likely to get divorced.

If you must believe in God, Please respect Atheists. After all, your choosing to warship one.

 

[afrawfraw]

"FAITH". The ONLY way religion works is faith. Because without faith, you would call your minister a blathering idiot. "Faith" forces you to change the parameters of your logic. Why does deductive reasoning work for every other scenario in life EXCEPT religion? Hmmmm. Also, the universe is not, "Nothing." Just because you were sold a religion, doesn't mean you should ignore science. There are two earth type planets we have discovered SO FAR. We are also on the verge of discovering how matter can shed mass. This would answer the "Something from nothing".

Since we're on the Bible, some good 'ol Christian reading for ya!

Exodus 21:1
Judges 11:29
Isaiah 13:16
Hosea 13:16
Psalms 137:9
Joshua 6
Judges 21

In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
He condones slavery, child abuse, as well as devaluing females.

You should REALLY ask yourself, if GOD is without time, why would he state the same ignorant bull shit that farmers 1,500 years ago thought. The reason why Atheists are in awe is because if you hadn't been sold a religion, you would NEVER condone these behaviors, ever. The same passage that condemns homosexuals ALSO condemns shaving your face! So grow a fat beard before screaming at gays, or GOD will hate you.

Just thought this needs to be here too.

 

[afrawfraw]

You come to a marijuana website and your second post is here repeating vapid platitudes about religion?

You sound like an atheist 12-stepper that has to rationalize to yourself why you believe in a higher power. So god answers prayers but sometimes the answer is 'no,' right? I would bet a load of money that the miracles you have seen have nothing to do with actually violating physical laws, the things most people would agree is miraculous. Does the bible really give you a path to living a good life or do you have to do what most people do and discard 90% of it to do so? Actually reading the bible is the fastest way to become a non-believer.

Most people have no problem with a person that says they believe in a god but when you claim that "god is indeed real" prepare to be criticized and defend your claims.

God's will, not mine. Or some bull shit like that.

 

[goodvibes420]

The question who created the creator is answered as follows

For you to believe in a creator you must believe he has been around forever. Eternity is a hard thing to imagine but to understand religion you must realize that for a god to exist it must be this way. If you believe something cant come from nothing and a god couldnt always be around then how to you explain the universe. Has the universe just always been around or what came before that? to me it makes more sense believing an all powerful creator has existed for ever than to believe a universe has.

To the dinosaur question, it is not even a known fact when dinosaurs existed. Some scientists believe they existed around the same time as humans and if you believe that then they were created for our enjoyment along with every other aniaml on the planet. he created this world for us and everything on it was created for us to expierience and view. The good as well as the bad.

 

[afrawfraw]

The question who created the creator is answered as follows

For you to believe in The Flying Pink Unicorn you must believe The Flying Pink Unicorn has been around forever. Eternity is a hard thing to imagine but to understand religion you must realize that for The Flying Pink Unicorn to exist it must be this way. If you believe something cant come from nothing and The Flying Pink Unicorn couldnt always be around then how to you explain the universe. Has the universe just always been around or what came before that? To me it makes more sense believing The Flying Pink Unicorn has existed for ever than to believe a universe has.

To the dinosaur question, it is not even a known fact when dinosaurs existed. Some scientists believe they existed around the same time as humans and if you believe that then they were created for our enjoyment along with every other aniaml on the planet. The Flying Pink Unicorn created this world for us and everything on it was created for us to expierience and view. The good as well as the bad.

Doesn't work, huh? Go read books on Paleontology please.

 

[cannabineer]

The question who created the creator is answered as follows

For you to believe in a creator you must believe he has been around forever. Eternity is a hard thing to imagine but to understand religion you must realize that for a god to exist it must be this way. If you believe something cant come from nothing and a god couldnt always be around then how to you explain the universe. Has the universe just always been around or what came before that? to me it makes more sense believing an all powerful creator has existed for ever than to believe a universe has.

To the dinosaur question, it is not even a known fact when dinosaurs existed. Some scientists believe they existed around the same time as humans and if you believe that then they were created for our enjoyment along with every other aniaml on the planet. he created this world for us and everything on it was created for us to expierience and view. The good as well as the bad.

Name even one. cn

 

[mindphuk]

The question who created the creator is answered as follows

For you to believe in a creator you must believe he has been around forever. Eternity is a hard thing to imagine but to understand religion you must realize that for a god to exist it must be this way. If you believe something cant come from nothing and a god couldnt always be around then how to you explain the universe. Has the universe just always been around or what came before that? to me it makes more sense believing an all powerful creator has existed for ever than to believe a universe has.

To the dinosaur question, it is not even a known fact when dinosaurs existed. Some scientists believe they existed around the same time as humans and if you believe that then they were created for our enjoyment along with every other aniaml on the planet. he created this world for us and everything on it was created for us to expierience and view. The good as well as the bad.

Wait. You claim that it is easier to believe that an intelligent being, that thinks and has emotions and is so powerful as to be able to create anything it wishes by mere thought, can exist eternally but it is difficult to believe that a small condensed system of pure energy, at the lowest possible state of entropy, can exist eternally? How exactly do you come to such a conclusion? It appears you are claiming it is easier to believe the complex existed before the simplistic.

 

[Padawanbater2]

To the dinosaur question, it is not even a known fact when dinosaurs existed. Some scientists believe they existed around the same time as humans and if you believe that then they were created for our enjoyment along with every other aniaml on the planet. he created this world for us and everything on it was created for us to expierience and view. The good as well as the bad.

It is a well established fact when dinosaurs existed, the margin of error is within 1% - 2%.

Not a single credible scientist on the face of this planet believes humans and dinosaurs existed during the same time.

99.9% of the universe is hostile to human life as we know it. If I gave you a sandwich that was 99.9% shit and .01% ham, would you still call that a "ham sandwich" that was created specifically for you to enjoy?

 

[Doer]

99.9 percent of our planet is in-hospitable.

 

[Doer]

ALL children are born Atheist=FACT!

Atheists are natural. You were born that way. You were free at birth, fuck everyone who won't let you see that.

Well no. Of course, that is not true. We are not born with an innate rejection of something we don't yet know about.

 

[mindphuk]

Well no. Of course, that is not true. We are not born with an innate rejection of something we don't yet know about.

Atheist = a -theist = not a theist. We are not born theists, we are all atheists until we learn about gods. This is implicit atheism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_and_explicit_atheism

 

[afrawfraw]

Well no. Of course, that is not true. We are not born with an innate rejection of something we don't yet know about.

Turn up the sound, sit back, and pause if it goes to quickly...

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[Doer]

Atheist = a -theist = not a theist. We are not born theists, we are all atheists until we learn about gods. This is implicit atheism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_and_explicit_atheism

Oh, yes, I get that, but I guess we discuss a fine point. I'm saying agnostic. We are born agnostic. We do not yet know of any of these so called truth values, so we are yet unable to reject them as an a-theist might certainly reject them on good grounds. But, not at birth.

Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown or unknowable.[

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's not the 'rejection' of the idea of a god, rejection implies existence. Atheists do not believe a god exists. How could someone reject something they believe doesn't exist?

Do I reject Santa Clause? Do I reject the Easter bunny? Of course not, I simply don't believe in them because there is no evidence to support their existence.

Gnosticism deals with knowledge, atheism deals with belief.

I'm an agnostic atheist, in that I don't know for sure if a god exists, but I believe it doesn't.

 

[afrawfraw]

Oh, yes, I get that, but I guess we discuss a fine point. I'm saying agnostic. We are born agnostic. We do not yet know of any of these so called truth values, so we are yet unable to reject them as an a-theist might certainly reject them on good grounds. But, not at birth.

Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown or unknowable.[

Is the view that the truth values of CERTAIN CLAIMS, CLAIMS, claims, claims, Echo, echo....ESPECIALLY CLAIMS ABOUT EXISTENCE OR NON-EXISTENCE Existence, existence, echo,echo....

Without knowledge of claims, where is your Agnostic? Sheesh.

 

[afrawfraw]

It's not the 'rejection' of the idea of a god, rejection implies existence. Atheists do not believe a god exists. How could someone reject something they believe doesn't exist?

Do I reject Santa Clause? Do I reject the Easter bunny? Of course not, I simply don't believe in them because there is no evidence to support their existence.

Gnosticism deals with knowledge, atheism deals with belief.

I'm an agnostic atheist, in that I don't know for sure if a god exists, but I believe it doesn't.

Missed ya bud.

 

[Oscar Zeta Acosta]

Shame this forum doesn't have a user by the name of god. It would offer some good comical skits for these threads.

 

[TogTokes]

Is there a Heaven and or Hell? Answer is NO! Def not.. When you die you get put back into earth and turn into nutes for us.. Try and be less brainwashed! haha!

 

[Zaehet Strife]

If we are born without knowing anything about religion, we would not believe in anything yet. If we do not believe in anything, that would also mean we would not believe in god/gods.

If you do not believe in god/gods, you are an atheist.