help on advanced nutrients

homebrewer

homebrewer

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Sir.Ganga said:
So math wasn't your're strength either? 8500 watts on a perpetual cycle based on 12 weeks, 4 weeks veg, 8 weeks flowers works out to 6.3 pounds or roughly 1.3 grams per watt

Watts are kind of like statistics, you can just about proove anything using the right formula.

You must grow a crop in 2 mnths or something??? I don't know???

Im not trying to make myself look better so when I say "about 1g per watt" I know Im not over talking my boundries. I didn't expect it to be picked apart by someone trying to dig up dirt!
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If you have 8500 watts in flower, you should be yielded 8500 grams every flowering cycle at 1 gram per watt. Some people are sticklers about it being a 2 month period, I'm a stickler for quality. Keep plants healthy and the yields will come naturally given the genetic limits of your strain of course.

I'll never get 600 grams of Kali mist from a stationary 600 watt lamp during a flowering cycle. Ak47 on the other hand will give me 600 grams.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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And there's the math thing. Being perpetual I take into consideration all wattage output. I don't think I ever sad I ran 8500 watts in flower, this is total wattage. If I only do the math in my flower room what would be the sense? Grams per watt is to get an idea of costs, all costs.

I would only be fooling myself if I didn't include all lighting but it would make me look really good now wouldn't it!.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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Sir.Ganga said:
And there's the math thing. Being perpetual I take into consideration all wattage output. I don't think I ever sad I ran 8500 watts in flower, this is total wattage. If I only do the math in my flower room what would be the sense? Grams per watt is to get an idea of costs, all costs.

I would only be fooling myself if I didn't include all lighting but it would make me look really good now wouldn't it!.
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I think Jorge Cerventes invented the grams/watt measure (maybe not but that's the first place I read about it) and to an extent, it's a nice way to measure efficiency. It's also a stupid way to measure our dicks against one another as something as simple as hood design can have a substantial affect on yield.

Perpetual or not, no one has ever included their vegging wattage in the grams/watt figure, seriously. If I vegged with a 1000 and flowered with a 400, am I expected to yield 1400 grams from a stationary 400 watt lamp?

Anyway, yield is dependent on a lot of different things so to sit here and say I'm better than you or you're better than me and base that statement on yield is just stupid. What we can say in regards to yield is that doing this or doing that had this affect on yield (when growing cloned strains in the same place in our room every time). That's what I do in my journals. If someone really wanted to increase their yields, look into canopy management.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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homebrewer said:
I think Jorge Cerventes invented the grams/watt measure (maybe not but that's the first place I read about it) and to an extent, it's a nice way to measure efficiency. It's also a stupid way to measure our dicks against one another as something as simple as hood design can have a substantial affect on yield.

Perpetual or not, no one has ever included their vegging wattage in the grams/watt figure, seriously. If I vegged with a 1000 and flowered with a 400, am I expected to yield 1400 grams from a stationary 400 watt lamp?

Anyway, yield is dependent on a lot of different things so to sit here and say I'm better than you or you're better than me and base that statement on yield is just stupid. What we can say in regards to yield is that doing this or doing that had this affect on yield (when growing cloned strains in the same place in our room every time). That's what I do in my journals. If someone really wanted to increase their yields, look into canopy management.
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I have to agree with ya on this Home. I do not use my grams per watt for anything other than for costing. If I cannot tell what its costs then I can not charge my patients correctly. My patients pay per gram, not $7-13 but $1.37 a gram. I can say that I am not overcharging and feel confident with my numbers.

In my world if you want to run a grow with all the power in the veg then yes I would figure it as 1400. 1 watt costs the same in veg as in flower. I hope people don't do this?

Your yeild is based on a number of things but firstly is knowledge. Nutes, lighting, Co2 and the such. These are all just tools to be used so if your a journeman you know how to use them but if your an apprentice, you may know the tools but can you use them...properly?

I do not claim to grow better than anyone else. I my have said something in the heat of the battle so to speak but I do not recall boasting.

Thats not my style.
 
decrimCA

decrimCA

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Sir.Ganga said:
I have to agree with ya on this Home. I do not use my grams per watt for anything other than for costing. If I cannot tell what its costs then I can not charge my patients correctly. My patients pay per gram, not $7-13 but $1.37 a gram. I can say that I am not overcharging and feel confident with my numbers.

In my world if you want to run a grow with all the power in the veg then yes I would figure it as 1400. 1 watt costs the same in veg as in flower. I hope people don't do this?

Your yeild is based on a number of things but firstly is knowledge. Nutes, lighting, Co2 and the such. These are all just tools to be used so if your a journeman you know how to use them but if your an apprentice, you may know the tools but can you use them...properly?

I do not claim to grow better than anyone else. I my have said something in the heat of the battle so to speak but I do not recall boasting.

Thats not my style.
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Yup. Well said.

A lot of things change the yield of your grow, not just your nutrients. I know that I've had better results with the nutrients (Advanced Nutrients) I'm using now, but I also have to admit that my growing techniques have improved, so that probably counts for something too.

I've gotten smarter. In the grow room, anyway. LOL
 
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