Santorum's anti-gay platform made me sick!

[Illegal Smile]

I don't understand why gays want to settle for the word marriage. I mean, that's a 10,000 year old heterosexual word that has always meant a union between a man and a woman. Now, it seems to me that gays are intent upon demonstrating their independence and individuality. They don't want to be thought of as an odd variation on the dominant lifestyle, they want to be respected for their own. So why don't they want to have their own word for their own same sex union, instead of just using marriage as if they weren't creative enough to think of anything else? They don't call one partner a woman and one a man do they? Why use the heterosexual word for the union itself?

If same sex unions had their own name, how much of the controversy would disappear over night? Polls sort of answer that question for us. A significant number of people are OK with civil unions that provide 100% equal rights, but not OK with calling it marriage. That number is more than enough to swing state or federal legislation establishing same sex unions. It looks to me like the goal is right there for the taking and only a clinging to a term you wouldn't think gays would want is holding it back.

 

[ginjawarrior]

I don't understand why gays want to settle for the word marriage. I mean, that's a 10,000 year old heterosexual word that has always meant a union between a man and a woman. Now, it seems to me that gays are intent upon demonstrating their independence and individuality. They don't want to be thought of as an odd variation on the dominant lifestyle, they want to be respected for their own. So why don't they want to have their own word for their own same sex union, instead of just using marriage as if they weren't creative enough to think of anything else? They don't call one partner a woman and one a man do they? Why use the heterosexual word for the union itself?

If same sex unions had their own name, how much of the controversy would disappear over night? Polls sort of answer that question for us. A significant number of people are OK with civil unions that provide 100% equal rights, but not OK with calling it marriage. That number is more than enough to swing state or federal legislation establishing same sex unions. It looks to me like the goal is right there for the taking and only a clinging to a term you wouldn't think gays would want is holding it back.

"10,000 year old heterosexual word" yeah thats not even close to being true

 

[Illegal Smile]

"10,000 year old heterosexual word" yeah thats not even close to being true

It's entirely true. I'm not talking about linguistics, of course every language has had its own word. But it has always meant a male/female union and few if any cultures in history have allowed it to mean a same sex union. Just like blacks don't want to emulate whites, I fail to see why gays would want to emulate heterosexual union rather than being truly revolutionary and marking same sex union as distinctive and worthy of distinction. I think it's a case of emotionalism getting in the way of the political goal. Not the first time that has happened.

 

[ginjawarrior]

It's entirely true. I'm not talking about linguistics, of course every language has had its own word. But it has always meant a male/female union and few if any cultures in history have allowed it to mean a same sex union. Just like blacks don't want to emulate whites, I fail to see why gays would want to emulate heterosexual union rather than being truly revolutionary and marking same sex union as distinctive and worthy of distinction. I think it's a case of emotionalism getting in the way of the political goal. Not the first time that has happened.

I don't understand why gays want to settle for the word marriage. I mean, that's a 10,000 year old heterosexual word

you clearly are talking linguistics otherwise all your saying is "men and women have been getting together for 10,000 why do gays want to do that?"

 

[Illegal Smile]

you clearly are talking linguistics otherwise all your saying is "men and women have been getting together for 10,000 why do gays want to do that?"

Why do gays want to shoot themselves in the foot on this? Is "linguistics" worth more than their rights? Back off on the linguistics and the route to full rights will be much shorter.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Why do gays want to shoot themselves in the foot on this? Is "linguistics" worth more than their rights? Back off on the linguistics and the route to full rights will be much shorter.

LOL your really trying to say whats best for gays while sprouting bigoted bullshit like "that's a 10,000 year old heterosexual word" ?

you really think that if they were a bit more subservient that people like you would "allow" them their rights?

it doesnt matter if you understand why they would want to be "married" and it certainly shouldnt be your place to decide for them

 

[ink the world]

You just don't understand the cconservative definition of freedom and small government.

Were all should be equal, free from govt intrusion and all that good stuff. That is unless I don't agree with your perverse sexuality that violates the code of my superstition. If that's the case your a sinner, not a real American or whatever bullshit excuse they use

Typical hypocrite

 

[Illegal Smile]

I'm putting you both on ignore. Maybe somebody else wants to discuss it reasonably.

 

[ginjawarrior]

I'm putting you both on ignore. Maybe somebody else wants to discuss it reasonably.

whats up you dont like being called out on your bigotry?

 

[smokinrav]

I'm putting you both on ignore. Maybe somebody else wants to discuss it reasonably.

Add me too. You are incapable of reason beyond whatever ideology it is you spew. Otherwise you're here as a troll, and are an ever worse human being than I think you are.

 

[ink the world]

Holy shit, for real?

Wow man, I honestly expected more from you. While we don't agree and I think you're political views are filled w/ hate and bigotry; you're fun to debate with. You can choose to
ignore me but that won't keep me from shining a spotlight on your bigotry