Does anybody else ever experience restless legs when coming down from a high?
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Metasynth
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They make a drug for restless leg syndrome. Personally, this shit happens to me sometimes when lying in bed. I usually have to get up aand jog in place for like 5 minutes, lay bacdk down, get back up and do jumping jacks, lay back down, get back up and start hitting my thighs and calves with my closed fist till they're bruised and pained, then laying back down.
I feel your pain, bro. Luckily it only happens every now and then for me.
I feel your pain, bro. Luckily it only happens every now and then for me.
brewing up
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the following morning to a good night im all stretchy n aching all over
futureprospects
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I get it all the time I am doing it right now haha maybe its because I have adhd but smoking deffo keeps me relaxed
mysunnyboy
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i have/had it really bad. turns out i am anemic and restless leg syndrome is caused alot of times by anemia. i take iron everyday and the restless leg crap is almost gone. 
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I get it worse&worse. I did have a prescription for it (Mirapex, pramipexole) and it was very effective, but I had to take it three hours before hope of effect. makes me suspect that a metabolite is the active, y'know?
I got them REAL bad when coming down from opiates. Taking opiates is the one thing I've found that soothes this amazingly attention-grabbing and icky condition. But for oh so many reasons, that's not such a great idea for me any more. cn
I got them REAL bad when coming down from opiates. Taking opiates is the one thing I've found that soothes this amazingly attention-grabbing and icky condition. But for oh so many reasons, that's not such a great idea for me any more. cn
silasraven
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restless leg all the time, even when high sometimes youll find a strain that you wont feel the legs at all.
Levodopa acts fast, and the treatment is usually effective within the first few days of therapy. One study reported that a combination therapy of regular-release L-dopa plus sustained release L-dopa was effective in improving sleep.
Serious common side effects of L-dopa treatment (and, to lesser extent, of dopamine receptor agonists) are augmentation and rebound. Many studies report that augmentation (worsening of symptoms that occur earlier in the day) occurs in up to 70% of patients who take L-dopa. The risk is highest for patients who take daily doses, especially doses at high levels (greater than 200 mg/day). For this reason, patients should use L-dopa only intermittently (fewer than 3 times per week). The drug should be immediately discontinued if augmentation does occur. Following withdrawal from L-dopa, patients can switch to a dopamine receptor agonist.
The rebound effect causes increased leg movements at night or in the morning as the dose wears off, or as tolerance to the drug builds up.
Dopamine Receptor Agonists. Dopamine receptor agonists (also called dopamine agonists) mimic the effects of dopamine by acting on dopamine receptors in the brain. They are now generally preferred to L-dopa. Because they have fewer side effects than L-dopa, including rebound effect and augmentation, these drugs may be used on a daily basis. About 30% of patients who take dopamine receptor agonists have reported augmentations symptoms. As the newer drugs are taken for longer periods and at higher doses, however, their augmentation rates may become closer to those of L-dopa.
Dopamine agonists have been shown to relieve symptoms in 70 - 90% of patients. Dopamine agonists can be ergot-derived (such as cabergoline) or non-ergot derived (such as pramipexole and ropinirole). The newer non-ergotamine derivatives may induce fewer side effects than ergot-derived drugs:
Levodopa acts fast, and the treatment is usually effective within the first few days of therapy. One study reported that a combination therapy of regular-release L-dopa plus sustained release L-dopa was effective in improving sleep.
Serious common side effects of L-dopa treatment (and, to lesser extent, of dopamine receptor agonists) are augmentation and rebound. Many studies report that augmentation (worsening of symptoms that occur earlier in the day) occurs in up to 70% of patients who take L-dopa. The risk is highest for patients who take daily doses, especially doses at high levels (greater than 200 mg/day). For this reason, patients should use L-dopa only intermittently (fewer than 3 times per week). The drug should be immediately discontinued if augmentation does occur. Following withdrawal from L-dopa, patients can switch to a dopamine receptor agonist.
The rebound effect causes increased leg movements at night or in the morning as the dose wears off, or as tolerance to the drug builds up.
Dopamine Receptor Agonists. Dopamine receptor agonists (also called dopamine agonists) mimic the effects of dopamine by acting on dopamine receptors in the brain. They are now generally preferred to L-dopa. Because they have fewer side effects than L-dopa, including rebound effect and augmentation, these drugs may be used on a daily basis. About 30% of patients who take dopamine receptor agonists have reported augmentations symptoms. As the newer drugs are taken for longer periods and at higher doses, however, their augmentation rates may become closer to those of L-dopa.
Dopamine agonists have been shown to relieve symptoms in 70 - 90% of patients. Dopamine agonists can be ergot-derived (such as cabergoline) or non-ergot derived (such as pramipexole and ropinirole). The newer non-ergotamine derivatives may induce fewer side effects than ergot-derived drugs:
- Ropinirole (Requip) was the first drug approved specifically for treatment of moderate-to-severe RLS (more than 15 RLS episodes a month). Side effects are generally mild but may include nausea, vomiting, drowsiness, and dizziness.
- pramipexole (Mirapex) is also approved for RLS. However, patients may fall asleep, without warning, while taking this drug, even while performing activities such as driving.
BlazinHigh03
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I've had this happen to me before..just get an indica next time
Kaendar
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Thats something ive been trying to figure out.. if it has something to do with the indica/sativa body high/ head high thing..I've had this happen to me before..just get an indica next time
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Hard Indica didn't help mine. 
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Kaendar
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Its the worst shit ever.. ur legs just have this feeling in them that u cant get rid of
Ropinirole (Requip) is also FDA approved for this. But I haven't tried any of them. My RLS is directly related to opiate withdrawal which is a work in progress.
Sr. Verde
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All you guys are taking pharmaceuticals for restless legs after a flight? That's pretty drastic.
Usually if you sit in a seat for a long period of time, the blood starts to pool, and the muscles start to get stiff. Especially at a cabin pressurized for 10,000 ft. After you go from sitting for 3+ hours then walk for a half mile to baggage claim it will screw with your muscles and the blood and acids, and other bodily substances within your muscles won't be released properly or quickly.
The trick is to every once in a while flex your muscles real nice and tight a few times. By muscles I mean legs, calves, ankles, quads, buttocks etc. Even arms and torso muscles are good if you feel like it. Anyway, the idea is to force that blood out of the muscle tissue and back into circulation to be re oxygenated. Do some nice breathing, get the oxygen going to your blood and muscles. Again, your body thinks it's at 10,000 feet.
Additionally, it's usually a good idea to also stand up and breathe and stretch. Perhaps do some stretches for your legs, hamstrings, quads and accompany it with some more deep breaths to stretch your lungs out and get that o2 into the bloodstream. Do this while the air is still free. They already charge $25 per check in luggage.
I usually just flex my muscles every hour or so, and stand up and stretch, or do a little aisle walk (granted the aisles are clear) every 3-4 hours.
To give an example: If your flying a domestic flight, like LAX to New York you should be doing some in-seat muscle/breathing exercises at least 4-5 times per flight, and stand up and stretch for a few minutes at least once, if not twice for good measure. Now, If your doing a long international flight like Dallas, TX, to Tokyo, Japan..This is a long trek - Your going to want to do in seat breathing/flexing exercises at least 12-13 times, and stand up and stretch at least 4-5 times. If you do a lot of intentional travel, you will notice a lot of the business men and women doing this.
Coming from a guy who's done a solid 30 hours of flying/layovers back to back to go to one place. It makes a world of difference. Who gives a shit how strange you look if you stand up every once in a while to stretch out your ham strings and calves. You'll likely never see those people again. And you'll very likely walk out of the gate feeling a lot more energy, and your muscles will feel very relaxed and stretched. And you wont be nearly as stiff when you go to sleep that night.
Usually if you sit in a seat for a long period of time, the blood starts to pool, and the muscles start to get stiff. Especially at a cabin pressurized for 10,000 ft. After you go from sitting for 3+ hours then walk for a half mile to baggage claim it will screw with your muscles and the blood and acids, and other bodily substances within your muscles won't be released properly or quickly.
The trick is to every once in a while flex your muscles real nice and tight a few times. By muscles I mean legs, calves, ankles, quads, buttocks etc. Even arms and torso muscles are good if you feel like it. Anyway, the idea is to force that blood out of the muscle tissue and back into circulation to be re oxygenated. Do some nice breathing, get the oxygen going to your blood and muscles. Again, your body thinks it's at 10,000 feet.
Additionally, it's usually a good idea to also stand up and breathe and stretch. Perhaps do some stretches for your legs, hamstrings, quads and accompany it with some more deep breaths to stretch your lungs out and get that o2 into the bloodstream. Do this while the air is still free. They already charge $25 per check in luggage.
I usually just flex my muscles every hour or so, and stand up and stretch, or do a little aisle walk (granted the aisles are clear) every 3-4 hours.
To give an example: If your flying a domestic flight, like LAX to New York you should be doing some in-seat muscle/breathing exercises at least 4-5 times per flight, and stand up and stretch for a few minutes at least once, if not twice for good measure. Now, If your doing a long international flight like Dallas, TX, to Tokyo, Japan..This is a long trek - Your going to want to do in seat breathing/flexing exercises at least 12-13 times, and stand up and stretch at least 4-5 times. If you do a lot of intentional travel, you will notice a lot of the business men and women doing this.
Coming from a guy who's done a solid 30 hours of flying/layovers back to back to go to one place. It makes a world of difference. Who gives a shit how strange you look if you stand up every once in a while to stretch out your ham strings and calves. You'll likely never see those people again. And you'll very likely walk out of the gate feeling a lot more energy, and your muscles will feel very relaxed and stretched. And you wont be nearly as stiff when you go to sleep that night.
Kaendar
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Thanks, but we werent talking about flights.