Lady.J
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Yea I think I got the one for hard water. I use tap water for everything.
Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto
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Cloudz2600
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What else did you get? "free" is my favorite price.
Lady.J
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Organic Fish Hydrolysate Fertilizer from Neptune's Harvest. Only smells if you sniff the bottle and is awesome for plants. Have used the sample several times and still have some left. Ended up buying a fish & seaweed blend of theirs since my plants were looking so good!
Cloudz2600
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Got a link or an email address so I can hit her up for a sample? Going to to go organic on my next grow.
Cloudz2600
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Wow I'm surprised the soil was so dry after only a day of not watering. Watered with a good bit of run off with the 1/4 tsp of the blossom booster today, that's the recommended strength for each watering. I'll use the fertilizer every other watering.
Look at all the pretty bud sights ^_^. I should have a good bit of green whenever these girls get done. The left one is Blue Mammoth and the right is Northern Lights. I took off the dead leaves on the NL, was only about 2-3. I just remembered the BM has a few dead leaves at the very bottom of the plant, I forgot to take them off. Kind of expected since CFLs don't have that much light penetration and they're at the very bottom. I'm not going to readjust the LST. Just going to let em do it's thing. That node that's the tallest on the BM is actually about 4-5 nodes from the top. Shows how well she took to the LST.
I'm not actually sure if that desk fan did anything lol. The temp is the same without it, 84-88. It's a bit high and I'd rather run the lights during the dark, but I'm going to try to have a well defined light and darkness period. Took a pic of what the branches look like. I'm starting to see pistils pop up on all the Blue Mammoth branches. That's actually what I took a pic of. Didn't come out like I wanted, but it got my point across. Watched a cervantes video and I think he said ideal humidity was 50-60% for flowering, I'm 49-58% so if I heard correctly I'm all good.
Look at all the pretty bud sights ^_^. I should have a good bit of green whenever these girls get done. The left one is Blue Mammoth and the right is Northern Lights. I took off the dead leaves on the NL, was only about 2-3. I just remembered the BM has a few dead leaves at the very bottom of the plant, I forgot to take them off. Kind of expected since CFLs don't have that much light penetration and they're at the very bottom. I'm not going to readjust the LST. Just going to let em do it's thing. That node that's the tallest on the BM is actually about 4-5 nodes from the top. Shows how well she took to the LST.
I'm not actually sure if that desk fan did anything lol. The temp is the same without it, 84-88. It's a bit high and I'd rather run the lights during the dark, but I'm going to try to have a well defined light and darkness period. Took a pic of what the branches look like. I'm starting to see pistils pop up on all the Blue Mammoth branches. That's actually what I took a pic of. Didn't come out like I wanted, but it got my point across. Watched a cervantes video and I think he said ideal humidity was 50-60% for flowering, I'm 49-58% so if I heard correctly I'm all good.
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Lady.J
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http://www.neptunesharvest.com/contactus.html
I went there and filled out the form, asked for a sample
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Cloudz2600
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Was it the fish-seaweed fertilizer, just the fish or just the seaweed? Actually what's the difference? Wouldn't it be best to have the fish-seaweed?
Lady.J
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It was just the fish they sent me...but I didn't elaborate, just asked for a sample. Didn't think I was going to get a response lol. The fish and seaweed would be better. As for the difference just copied and pasted from the site:
Seaweed Plant Food 0 – 0 – 1
Neptune's Harvest Seaweed Plant Food is an organic storehouse of over 60 naturally occurring major and minor nutrients and amino acids. It's growth promoting substances (Auxims, Cytokinins, Gibberellins) enhance plant development, color and vigor. Seaweed has also been found to increase plant hardiness and resistance to adverse environmental conditions, such as early frost, extreme heat and lack of moisture. Used as a seed inoculant, seaweed fertilizer increases and accelerates germination, and enhances the rapid development of a healthy root system. Seaweed is an excellent addition to any fertilization program.
Hydrolyzed Fish 2 - 4 - 1
Neptune's Harvest is an organic fertilizer made from fresh North Atlantic fish. It is made by a unique cold process that protects the vitamins, amino acids, enzymes and growth hormones.
It also contains all the micro and macro nutrients naturally found in fish. The nitrogen and other nutrients are chelated, so they are readily available for plants consumption. Unlike fish emulsions, Neptune's Harvest retains the fish proteins and oils and has no unpleasant odor. University studies have shown Neptune's Harvest to outperform chemical fertilizers.
If you want more info than that, you'll have to Google! Lol, I'm too lazy
. There's numerous articles on how fish and seaweed help cannabis though, and are a few on this site too.
Cloudz2600
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I guess if you wanted to be exact with your nutes buying them separately would be better, but at $25 per quart I can't see 2 in 1 being a bad thing lol. Oh cool didn't know it wasn't fish emulsions. Yea, I specifically said I'd like a sample of the fish-seaweed fertilizer. They sent you a response or just the package?
Lady.J
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They responded...to ask me my address because I forgot to list it lol. Other than that, they didn't say anything. Showed up in the mail less than a week later. You can get it a lot cheaper on amazon if you decide to buy. I bought a quart for around 14 bucks, free shipping.
Cloudz2600
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Ann just sent me and email saying she'd send it right out
Cloudz2600
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Any opinions on using the blossom booster for one watering then the fish-seaweed mix(that should arrive in a week or so) for the next watering? Until then I'll only be using the blossom booster every other watering, but I figured it's hard to burn with organics and the blossom booster is low on N so I may need to supplement the plant with some.
Lady.J
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It's supper hard to burn with organics. You have to be completely reckless to burn your plants lol (imo). Mix two caps to a gallons of water for starters, then move up to four. I'm just doing it once a week, think that's decent enough. Also considering using bloom every watering...
Cloudz2600
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Well the Blue Mammoth unlike the Northern Lights takes everything I've done to her pretty well, never deficient, never burning so I figure she should benefit from the increased N. I'm convinced now thanks to you and UB that plants need more N than the blossom boosters tend to give.
Also I think I may switch from FFOF to roots organic. Still looking up comparisons and reviews, but I know La Diva only needs light fertilizer and that burn from FFOF has me worried even if I plan on using jiffy pellets for the seedling stage.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roots-Organics-Natural-Organic-Potting-Soil-1-5-cu-ft-/260659873146#shId
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ocean-Forest-Potting-Soil-1-5-cu-ft-natural-organic-mix-/300534580374?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo=SIC&its=I&itu=UCI%2BIA%2BUA%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=260659873146&ps=54#ht_1293wt_905
I know no store in my area has roots and my nursury(unless they increased the price) has FFOF for $15, but hey no shipping charge it seems. Never used ebay before though I could be reading it incorrectly.
EDIT: Oh wait, is the price that says standard shipping the included price or are they really charging $27 dollars for shipping for an $18 product?
Also I think I may switch from FFOF to roots organic. Still looking up comparisons and reviews, but I know La Diva only needs light fertilizer and that burn from FFOF has me worried even if I plan on using jiffy pellets for the seedling stage.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roots-Organics-Natural-Organic-Potting-Soil-1-5-cu-ft-/260659873146#shId
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ocean-Forest-Potting-Soil-1-5-cu-ft-natural-organic-mix-/300534580374?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo=SIC&its=I&itu=UCI%2BIA%2BUA%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=260659873146&ps=54#ht_1293wt_905
I know no store in my area has roots and my nursury(unless they increased the price) has FFOF for $15, but hey no shipping charge it seems. Never used ebay before though I could be reading it incorrectly.
EDIT: Oh wait, is the price that says standard shipping the included price or are they really charging $27 dollars for shipping for an $18 product?
Lady.J
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Have heard good things about roots organic...but is kind of expensive! From what I understand, Fox Farm won't burn your plants if you don't put them into the soil until they're a few weeks old. I bought some FF cut with Happy Frog from ebay. Have the seedlings in seed started soil and will grow them in that until at least a few weeks pass! We'll see how it works out...
Cloudz2600
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Well I found a website that sells RO for $8, with shipping it ends up being $25. Roots Organics Soil .75 Cubic Feet Amazon has the same thing for $47. I don't even need the soil now, I still have maybe enough FFOF for a 1 gallon pot. I guess I got a little bit of time to figure out what I want lol.
Cloudz2600
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Watered today with plain water. The BM has a little bit of nute burn. Most of the tips of the fan leaves are burnt. Just the tips though. In retrospect I did use the full strength of the recommended dose and that probably wasn't a good idea. I should of gone just a bit under. On the bright side all the yellowing and reddening of stems on the NL have stopped. I have 2 bottom fan leaves that are about 30% yellow, but besides that nothing else Next watering will be with the blossom booster, but I'll go 1/2 or 3/4 strength.
I LST's the highest node on the BM, it was just getting too tall so I made it level with mode of the other nodes. You can't really see the length, butthe pistils are the BM are still just in pairs. They are around a cm long for most of em though. Starting to notice more pistils(preflowers if it's only the pair at the start of the node?) on the NL as well. Vertical growth has pretty much stopped for the NL and for the most part BM so I don't want to LST them too much simply because it won't make much of a difference. The top stem that I LST'd was like 3 inches higher than the others. Pretty cool that it took so well to the LST, it was the 4th-5th node from the top and it was higher than all others.
Whenever my fish-seaweed blend gets here I'll be watering with that by itself for one watering and the watering with the blossom booster the next. Any opinions on that? I'll continue going 12/12 until the end of this grow. Temps have been decent I guess, 84-88F. When I was the two 26w CFLs on the temp is 88 and they're maybe 2 inches from the acu-rite. I've confirmed that they raise the temp by 2 degrees by themselves. I lifted the 2 lights to the same height as the other bulbs. I found that the side growth was growing(which is great) into the bulbs and I didn't want to risk a burn. Middle growth is pretty packed too so it was pretty much take the lights out or raise em. One of these days I'll find a way to take a picture of the lights.
Besides that all is good. My room stinks, but I can't really smell it outside my room.
EDIT: Wow that last pic makes the girls look a lot better than they do irl lol.
Next watering will be with the blossom booster, but I'll go 1/2 or 3/4 strength.I LST's the highest node on the BM, it was just getting too tall so I made it level with mode of the other nodes. You can't really see the length, butthe pistils are the BM are still just in pairs. They are around a cm long for most of em though. Starting to notice more pistils(preflowers if it's only the pair at the start of the node?) on the NL as well. Vertical growth has pretty much stopped for the NL and for the most part BM so I don't want to LST them too much simply because it won't make much of a difference. The top stem that I LST'd was like 3 inches higher than the others. Pretty cool that it took so well to the LST, it was the 4th-5th node from the top and it was higher than all others.
Whenever my fish-seaweed blend gets here I'll be watering with that by itself for one watering and the watering with the blossom booster the next. Any opinions on that? I'll continue going 12/12 until the end of this grow. Temps have been decent I guess, 84-88F. When I was the two 26w CFLs on the temp is 88 and they're maybe 2 inches from the acu-rite. I've confirmed that they raise the temp by 2 degrees by themselves. I lifted the 2 lights to the same height as the other bulbs. I found that the side growth was growing(which is great) into the bulbs and I didn't want to risk a burn. Middle growth is pretty packed too so it was pretty much take the lights out or raise em. One of these days I'll find a way to take a picture of the lights.
Besides that all is good. My room stinks, but I can't really smell it outside my room.
EDIT: Wow that last pic makes the girls look a lot better than they do irl lol.
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Lady.J
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That last top shot is the shit! They look so good....can tell that you're really taking care of them
For the bloom nutes, found out it's ideal to do one week of half veg / half bloom nutes in the same mix before going full on bloom. Of course I read this after the fact lol.
As for the fish and seaweed...are you using organic bloom nutes? If so, I would say that you can mix them together once a week. If your plants start showing that they need N, add more fish to the mix or up adding it to your water twice a week. That's just what I do though...
For the bloom nutes, found out it's ideal to do one week of half veg / half bloom nutes in the same mix before going full on bloom. Of course I read this after the fact lol.
As for the fish and seaweed...are you using organic bloom nutes? If so, I would say that you can mix them together once a week. If your plants start showing that they need N, add more fish to the mix or up adding it to your water twice a week. That's just what I do though...
Cloudz2600
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Ikr, they really liked that LST, Scrog is probably more organized and neater though. I'll have to find a good method of getting it in the bin. Oh btw how did you velcro the bin? In order for me to take the plants out I have to take the entire top off. Just counted from the pic and BM has 18 tops and NL has 13 Some people don't like popcorn buds, I really don't care lol.
I'm going to get a sample of the seaweed-fish blend, but besides that I'm using synthetic fertilizer, Jack's Classic. I don't really have any veg nutes, well I have the 16-10-30 Veg+Bloom, but I haven't used it. I've been using(well once) all purpose(20-20-20) and bloom(10-30-20). I was using veg nutes I guess if you consider the urine mix and the 20-20-20 before that, veg nutes. I guess that's a good idea to ween it off the veg nutes instead of just switching. But yea as of right now I don't have any organic fertilizer, I'm still waiting on the sample.
Some people don't like popcorn buds, I really don't care lol.I'm going to get a sample of the seaweed-fish blend, but besides that I'm using synthetic fertilizer, Jack's Classic. I don't really have any veg nutes, well I have the 16-10-30 Veg+Bloom, but I haven't used it. I've been using(well once) all purpose(20-20-20) and bloom(10-30-20). I was using veg nutes I guess if you consider the urine mix and the 20-20-20 before that, veg nutes. I guess that's a good idea to ween it off the veg nutes instead of just switching. But yea as of right now I don't have any organic fertilizer, I'm still waiting on the sample.
