More whites on welfare? Yes. But...

[abandonconflict]

Welfare does not just feed the poor. It feeds the middle class too, we need someone to sell our services and goods to. It also, paradoxically, creates more tax revenue. I personally would rather see the government tax progressively and spend the tax money at home, than to see it secretly tax through inflation while promising lower taxes and use the money to export violence. The economy thrives under tax and spend liberal policy. It is working, we are emerging from the depths of Dubya's policies.

Somehow the Sheriff of Nottingham has convinced some of you that Robin Hood has come to rob the poor. No, the Bush tax cuts were welfare for the super-rich, and alas, they are gone now, taxes will pay for the stimulus. Trickle down economics are past. People are buying things.

 

[JustAnotherHead]

Welfare does not just feed the poor. It feeds the middle class too, we need someone to sell our services and goods to. It also, paradoxically, creates more tax revenue. I personally would rather see the government tax progressively and spend the tax money at home, than to see it secretly tax through inflation while promising lower taxes and use the money to export violence. The economy thrives under tax and spend liberal policy. It is working, we are emerging from the depths of Dubya's policies.

Somehow the Sheriff of Nottingham has convinced some of you that Robin Hood has come to rob the poor. No, the Bush tax cuts were welfare for the super-rich, and alas, they are gone now, taxes will pay for the stimulus. Trickle down economics are past. People are buying things.

Stick with cartoons man. "The economy thrives under tax and spend" HAHAHA

 

[abandonconflict]

Stick with cartoons man. "The economy thrives under tax and spend" HAHAHA

OK, maybe the cartoon will teach you something.

 

[JustAnotherHead]

OK, maybe the cartoon will teach you something.

Your cartoon is a fallacy. There was no surplus under Clinton. He just stole a bunch of money from SSI.

 

[beenthere]

He has a point. But he fails to explain why. You have to address this. Is the OP saying blacks are lazy?
off subject a little. Notice how Romney and Bachman walk like they have a corncob upp thier ass and have this like endless energy? I say aliens!! fo sho
Romenets sons WTF?? Little fucking drones.

Hell yes, many blacks are lazy, anyone that denies it, is a fake ass liar.
And it has nothing to do with society holding them back, that excuse is just flat worn out.

If you want to make yourself look like the good guy and blame it on the misfortune of discrimination, then have at it. IMO, white phonies do it to make themselves feel good, no amount of mere lip service is going to help them.

The fact is, it's the government entitlements that keep blacks in poverty, and their right where government wants them, down!

Politicians have scammed African Americans for years into trading votes for government freebies, this keeps most of them out of private sector business and beholding to the party they support. They did the same thing with American Indians by restricting them to reservations and small government checks.

Do you honestly believe politicians have blacks best interests in mind?

Why are 78% of Planned Parenthood's clinics in minority neighborhoods. Blacks make up only 12% of the US population, yet 35% of all abortions are from African American mothers?

Why are all of our inner city public school systems (union) a major fail, why are the same schools in the suburbs much better.

So hell yes blacks are lazy, but it's by sleazy intentional government planning, wake the fuck up.

 

[JustAnotherHead]

Hell yes, many blacks are lazy, anyone that denies it, is a fake ass liar.
And it has nothing to do with society holding them back, that excuse is just flat worn out.

If you want to make yourself look like the good guy and blame it on the misfortune of discrimination, then have at it. IMO, you phonies do to to make yourselves feel good, no amount of mere lip service is going to help them.

The fact is, it's the government entitlements that keep blacks in poverty, and their right where government wants them, down!

Politicians have scammed African Americans for years into trading votes for government freebies, this keeps most of them out of private sector business and beholding to the party they support. They did the same thing with American Indians by restricting them to reservations and small government checks.

Do you honestly believe politicians have blacks best interests in mind?

Why are 78% of Planned Parenthood's clinics in minority neighborhoods. Blacks make up only 12% of the US population, yet 35% of all abortions are from African American mothers?

Why are all of our inner city public school systems (union) a major fail, why are the same schools in the suburbs much better.

So hell yes blacks are lazy, but it's by sleazy intentional government planning, wake the fuck up.

It's all your fault man. ALL YOUR FAULT FOR BEING WHITE! Same as in Africa. The African nations all suck and are poverty stricken because of the 200 people in America owned slaves in 1789.

 

[abandonconflict]

Your cartoon is a fallacy. There was no surplus under Clinton. He just stole a bunch of money from SSI.

So you prefer trickle down economics? You think supply side market is the solution? Come on, state your case, argue your point, I'm not UB, I'm not insulting you, I'm trying to contribute to the thread.

 

[Parker]

I consider welfare politics so I'm putting this is the politics section.

Kaendar informed me that more white people are on welfare than black. He is correct. But I'd like to ask a question. What percentage of all white/black in america are on welfare? This is what i found out:

According to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_people_in_US_are_on_welfare
http://www.chacha.com/question/what-percentage-of-people-on-welfare-are-white,-black,-or-hispanic

- 29 million people are on welfare
- 39% white: 11,661,000
- 38% black: 11,362,000

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States:
- US population: 313,544,041
- White: 72.4%: 227,005,885
- Black: 12.6%: 39,506,549

Math time!:

Whites: 11.661,000 / 227,005,885 * 100 = 5.13%
Blacks: 11,362,000 / 39,506,549 * 100 = 28.75%

That means the total percentage of all white people in america on welfare is: 5.13%

While the total percentage of all black people in america on welfare is: 28.75%

Sorry but these numbers disturb me (please tell me what I did wrong, because I hope I am wrong somewhere). Discuss! I'm going to bed. I'll check up on this thread in the morning.

When you say black you say poor. When you are poor you are stuck. Government takes care of you instead of making it easier for you to take care of yourself. A lot of people like to be taken care of.
We don't plan for the future well. If we did as a people, we'd save better and not back ourselves into a corner where we have few if any options. How many times have you heard from someone say, its not much more than what I make on unemployment or welfare so they don't take the job. They aren't thinking. As long as you're on the government mule, you've hit your ceiling on earnings.

 

[abandonconflict]

I have to question your motives and honesty after posting that last dubious picture. You wonder why we get mad when you post retarded false cartoons. They lie about Clinton and omit Obama. I mean really, pull your head of Obama's ass.

Well when you take one small part of my argument, focus on it and ignore my actual message just to attack Clinton, fine you are focusing on a premise to explicate an argument, but you are the one avoiding a debate and you were the one who said you preferred cartoons. It would be so easy for me to just call this thread racist and dismiss it all, but I didn't even come in here with cartoons until you said you couldn't handle what I wrote.

 

[JustAnotherHead]

Well when you take one small part of my argument, focus on it and ignore my actual message just to attack Clinton, fine you are focusing on a premise to explicate an argument, but you are the one avoiding a debate and you were the one who said you preferred cartoons. It would be so easy for me to just call this thread racist and dismiss it all, but I didn't even come in here with cartoons until you said you couldn't handle what I wrote.

That "part" of your argument was you saying how Clinton and Obama run surpluses (which is patently false to anyone that can read a Balance Sheet) while the Republicans are "Tax and Spend". You tried to lie and hope nobody would notice. I'm not a liberal, I noticed.

 

[canndo]

That "part" of your argument was you saying how Clinton and Obama run surpluses (which is patently false to anyone that can read a Balance Sheet) while the Republicans are "Tax and Spend". You tried to lie and hope nobody would notice. I'm not a liberal, I noticed.

When the reality is that Republicans are borrow and spend. as anyone who can read a balance sheet will agree.

 

[JustAnotherHead]

When the reality is that Republicans are borrow and spend. as anyone who can read a balance sheet will agree.

Exactly. Republicans are borrow and spend, Democrats are borrow and spend. Ron Paul is our savior. Pretty simple.

 

[beenthere]

When the reality is that Republicans are borrow and spend. as anyone who can read a balance sheet will agree.

Do you agree that in order to control spending by any party and pay down our debt, our government needs a balanced budget amendment?

 

[abandonconflict]

Do you agree that in order to control spending by any party and pay down our debt, our government needs a balanced budget amendment?

Yes, but our government is too busy trying to win political points to solve our problems. Yes, on both sides (Obama too).

 

[cannabineer]

Do you agree that in order to control spending by any party and pay down our debt, our government needs a balanced budget amendment?

I remember balanced budget amendments in the '80s and they didn't work. You can't legislate good sense. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

Exactly. Republicans are borrow and spend, Democrats are borrow and spend. Ron Paul is our savior. Pretty simple.

Republicans are borrow and spend (spend outside Amercia), democrats are tax and spend (domestic spending), one is the (I hate this phrase) lesser of two evils. Ron Paul is just a TV star now.

 

[beenthere]

I remember balanced budget amendments in the '80s and they didn't work. You can't legislate good sense. cn

There's never been a federal balanced budget amendment passed, you do know it would require an amendment to the constitution?

 

[abandonconflict]

There's never been a federal balanced budget amendment passed, you do know it would require an amendment to the constitution?

If it was balanced, neither party would likely be able to chisel anything, they will work together to keep that from happening.

 

[UncleBuck]

Hell yes, many blacks are lazy, anyone that denies it, is a fake ass liar.
And it has nothing to do with society holding them back, that excuse is just flat worn out.

If you want to make yourself look like the good guy and blame it on the misfortune of discrimination, then have at it. IMO, white phonies do it to make themselves feel good, no amount of mere lip service is going to help them.

The fact is, it's the government entitlements that keep blacks in poverty, and their right where government wants them, down!

Politicians have scammed African Americans for years into trading votes for government freebies, this keeps most of them out of private sector business and beholding to the party they support. They did the same thing with American Indians by restricting them to reservations and small government checks.

Do you honestly believe politicians have blacks best interests in mind?

Why are 78% of Planned Parenthood's clinics in minority neighborhoods. Blacks make up only 12% of the US population, yet 35% of all abortions are from African American mothers?

Why are all of our inner city public school systems (union) a major fail, why are the same schools in the suburbs much better.

So hell yes blacks are lazy, but it's by sleazy intentional government planning, wake the fuck up.

this guy speaks the truth.

it's all a matter of melanin. all that extra melanin predisposes blacks to be lazy.

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you agree that in order to control spending by any party and pay down our debt, our government needs a balanced budget amendment?

that would be such an excellent idea in times of war and economic recession