trayvan martin

[Harrekin]

I know all the streets in 90% of every city. it goes like this...1st st, 2nd st, 3rd st, 4th st, 5th st; 1st Ave, 2nd Ave, 3rd Ave, 4th Ave...........

Damn you and your organised cities, all our roads are named after "stuff", historical craic and the like...I'd much rather a zip code system.

 

[UncleBuck]

maybe zimm was in some sort of delusional state from the meth he was taking and was tripping, thinking he was in a U2 song...

"where the streets have no names"

 

[Harrekin]

maybe zimm was in some sort of delusional state from the meth he was taking and was tripping, thinking he was in a U2 song...

"where the streets have no names"

Bono is a short-arse lefty retard, anything he sings is full of shit cos he dodges taxes on it.

"Yeah I give to the poor without giving"...suck a fat one window licker, get some glasses that fit.

 

[londonfog]

maybe zimm was in some sort of delusional state from the meth he was taking and was tripping, thinking he was in a U2 song...

"where the streets have no names"

Zimm is nothin but a lying sack of shit. His defense is so fucked that he has to take the stand..Good luck with that.

 

[Harrekin]

Zimm is nothin but a lying sack of shit. His defense is so fucked that he has to take the stand..Good luck with that.

Yeah, he's so full of fail.

Hes the weakest sauce liar Iv ever seen, 4-5 year olds lie WAY better.

 

[UncleBuck]

Zimm is nothin but a lying sack of shit. His defense is so fucked that he has to take the stand..Good luck with that.

i don't believe there is any way he will take the stand. they'll just try to explain away his lies some other way i bet.

 

[londonfog]

i don't believe there is any way he will take the stand. they'll just try to explain away his lies some other way i bet.

This I would have to see... Maybe he can do an interview with Hannity..Hannity can ask him to clear all the lies that he said on tape ( even the ones he already said "sorry" for ). They can then play his brand new interview with Sean Hannity in court and BOOM everything is all cleared up without him taking the stand. I feel sorry for his lawyer, but fuck it he should get paid well from the donation money.

 

[desert dude]

i don't believe there is any way he will take the stand. they'll just try to explain away his lies some other way i bet.

I think you're right. It is almost always a bad idea to testify, too many risks even if you're sharp as a tack, which Zimm is not.

There are plenty of reasonable explanations for Zimm's flubs.

 

[UncleBuck]

There are plenty of reasonable explanations for Zimm's flubs.

how do you scream when you're being smothered?

how does one develop x-ray vision eyeballs in the back of their head?

i could go on and on. i mean, the guy APOLOGIZED for lying during the interrogation.

he got caught lying about not working private security once.

he says he has a bad memory but he knew the clubhouse address without hesitation and the exact words of the dispatch the day before.

his timeline does not match up either.

there is no way to cover ALL of his lies. not a chance in hell. you should really listen to the tapes.

 

[londonfog]

Remember we talking about the Zimm. I mean the idiot took the stand at a bond hearing...who the fuck does that.

 

[UncleBuck]

and there is no way to explain WHY martin was so enraged. nothing makes sense to explain why martin, who ran away, became so enraged.

well, there is one way to explain it: zimm tried to detain him. because those assholes were always getting away. fucking punks.

 

[UncleBuck]

Remember we talking about the Zimm. I mean the idiot took the stand at a bond hearing...who the fuck does that.

took the stand and lied.

on the night of, we were talking about a "kid" in his "late teens". not so much when he was on the stand.

horrible liar and DEAsert dude is ready to defend him every step of the way.

 

[desert dude]

how do you scream when you're being smothered?

how does one develop x-ray vision eyeballs in the back of their head?

i could go on and on. i mean, the guy APOLOGIZED for lying during the interrogation.

he got caught lying about not working private security once.

he says he has a bad memory but he knew the clubhouse address without hesitation and the exact words of the dispatch the day before.

his timeline does not match up either.

there is no way to cover ALL of his lies. not a chance in hell. you should really listen to the tapes.

How long did Martin have his hand over Zim's mouth? One second, two, three???

Why did Martin have his hand over Zim's mouth? To stop him from screaming for help???

 

[desert dude]

and there is no way to explain WHY martin was so enraged. nothing makes sense to explain why martin, who ran away, became so enraged.

well, there is one way to explain it: zimm tried to detain him. because those assholes were always getting away. fucking punks.

Why was Martin suspended three times from school in the first three months of his junior year of high school?

Why was Martin unmarked except for skinned knuckles, while Zim had multiple injuries to his head, and how did Martin's knuckles get all skinned up?

 

[UncleBuck]

How long did Martin have his hand over Zim's mouth? One second, two, three???

Why did Martin have his hand over Zim's mouth? To stop him from screaming for help???

if we are to believe what zimm says, which is tough to do given he tells so many lies, he said that he was smothered "right before" the gunshot. right at the point where we hear screaming. from a man being smothered.

seems legit.

zimm's story is made up.

 

[UncleBuck]

Why was Martin suspended three times from school in the first three months of his junior year of high school?

having rings, having an empty bag, and being late.

no violence in martin's past, which you can't say for zimm. lots of history of violence in zimm's past. he really likes to get himself involved.

Why was Martin unmarked except for skinned knuckles, while Zim had multiple injuries to his head, and how did Martin's knuckles get all skinned up?

you need to listen to the tapes. serino shows zimm the photos of martin's knuckles. there's not much there, certainly not enough to justify the "25-30" punches zimmerman said he took after martin "jumped out from behind the bushes".



fairy tale fiction stuff.

 

[desert dude]

if we are to believe what zimm says, which is tough to do given he tells so many lies, he said that he was smothered "right before" the gunshot. right at the point where we hear screaming. from a man being smothered.

seems legit.

zimm's story is made up.

There are recordings of 45 seconds worth of screams, so Martin clamps his hand over Zim's mouth 3 or 4 seconds before the gun shot. Seems reasonable.

 

[londonfog]

There are recordings of 45 seconds worth of screams, so Martin clamps his hand over Zim's mouth 3 or 4 seconds before the gun shot. Seems reasonable.

sounds like you have not even listened to the tapes

 

[desert dude]

having rings, having an empty bag, and being late.

no violence in martin's past, which you can't say for zimm. lots of history of violence in zimm's past. he really likes to get himself involved.



you need to listen to the tapes. serino shows zimm the photos of martin's knuckles. there's not much there, certainly not enough to justify the "25-30" punches zimmerman said he took after martin "jumped out from behind the bushes".



fairy tale fiction stuff.

The "having rings", plus a screw driver thing is pretty damning. Sounds like burglary tools and pilfered goods. Certainly not the kind of thing an average high school student would have in his back pack. What is it that Zimmerman was guarding the neighborhood against, burglaries. Was Martin casing the houses there, no way to know, but were Zimmerman's suspicions justified, I have to say yes.

Plus, three suspensions in as many months of school. I have a 17 year old son who just graduated high school. If my kid was suspended three time in three months I would be having a come to Jesus talk with him. Three suspensions indicates problems to me.

 

[UncleBuck]

There are recordings of 45 seconds worth of screams, so Martin clamps his hand over Zim's mouth 3 or 4 seconds before the gun shot. Seems reasonable.

serino asks when martin smothered him, he says "right before" the shot. there is screaming right before the shot.

the cake is a lie.