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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
The "having rings", plus a screw driver thing is pretty damning. Sounds like burglary tools and pilfered goods. Certainly not the kind of thing an average high school student would have in his back pack. What is it that Zimmerman was guarding the neighborhood against, burglaries. Was Martin casing the houses there, no way to know, but were Zimmerman's suspicions justified, I have to say yes.

Plus, three suspensions in as many months of school. I have a 17 year old son who just graduated high school. If my kid was suspended three time in three months I would be having a come to Jesus talk with him. Three suspensions indicates problems to me.
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not as damning as a history of violence and killing an innocent kid.

what you're trying to do is the only way to make this work: treat martin with the presumption of guilt.

too bad he was an innocent kid with no history of violence doing nothing wrong. and even if he was jumping out of a house when zimm saw him, that is no excuse for zimm's actions.

douchebag.
 
UncleBuck

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one of my favorite parts was where zimmerman tries telling the interrogators that martin was circling his vehicle. like, literally walking around it several times.

guess he forgot that his call to dispatch was recorded. :lol:

dumbass.
 
londonfog

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UncleBuck said:
one of my favorite parts was where zimmerman tries telling the interrogators that martin was circling his vehicle. like, literally walking around it several times.

guess he forgot that his call to dispatch was recorded. :lol:

dumbass.
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They kept asking him "is this when he walked around"..... uhhh I can't remember. His own voice will come back to haunt him..HOMIE

He has to take the stand to explain this bullshit away.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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UncleBuck said:
not as damning as a history of violence and killing an innocent kid.

what you're trying to do is the only way to make this work: treat martin with the presumption of guilt.

too bad he was an innocent kid with no history of violence doing nothing wrong. and even if he was jumping out of a house when zimm saw him, that is no excuse for zimm's actions.

douchebag.
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i personally think he wasn't so innocent. Is not your claiming him to be innocent not as presumptuous as Desert's claim of guilt?
 
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budleydoright

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budlover13 said:
i personally think he wasn't so innocent. Is not your claiming him to be innocent not as presumptuous as Desert's claim of guilt?
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Actually I believe the timeline does establish that Martin was exactly where his family said he would be. Wasn't he on that video in the store 10 minutes earlier?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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why does zimmerman always say in the interrogations and statements that he told the dispatch that he wanted the police to meet him at his car? he never mentions that he told dispatch to have the cops call him for his location.

why?

we all know why. it totally fucks up his (fake) story and his self-defense claim.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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UncleBuck said:
why does zimmerman always say in the interrogations and statements that he told the dispatch that he wanted the police to meet him at his car? he never mentions that he told dispatch to have the cops call him for his location.

why?

we all know why. it totally fucks up his (fake) story and his self-defense claim.
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I myself caught about 4 big fuck up in his story. The more you talk the more lies you have to tell....uhhh you got me....really ?????

He has to take the stand. The guy just can't keep his mouth shut. It's not in him
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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londonfog said:
I myself caught about 4 big fuck up in his story. The more you talk the more lies you have to tell....uhhh you got me....really ?????

He has to take the stand. The guy just can't keep his mouth shut. It's not in him
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zimm is telling a move version. when you shoot someone directly through the heart, they don't sit up and say "you got me", as he claims in his written statement and interrogations. in the written statement, he says he shot him "in the torso".

yet in the reenactment, he says he didn't think he shot martin (at point blank range, no less). he says he thought martin just sat up and says something more to the effect of "i get the point, i heard your gun, you got me" and that's why he straddled him.

really?

not to mention his descriptions never coincide with the multiple eyewitness accounts of what happened after the gunshot.

self defense cases rely a lot on whether or not the jury thinks the defender exercised good judgment, according to experts. and you'd be hard pressed to say a guy that straddled a kid he just shot point blank in the heart was using good judgment. not to mention his credibility is hovering around negative four thousand on a scale of 1 to 10.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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UncleBuck said:
zimm is telling a move version. when you shoot someone directly through the heart, they don't sit up and say "you got me", as he claims in his written statement and interrogations. in the written statement, he says he shot him "in the torso".

yet in the reenactment, he says he didn't think he shot martin (at point blank range, no less). he says he thought martin just sat up and says something more to the effect of "i get the point, i heard your gun, you got me" and that's why he straddled him.

really?

not to mention his descriptions never coincide with the multiple eyewitness accounts of what happened after the gunshot.

self defense cases rely a lot on whether or not the jury thinks the defender exercised good judgment, according to experts. and you'd be hard pressed to say a guy that straddled a kid he just shot point blank in the heart was using good judgment. not to mention his credibility is hovering around negative four thousand on a scale of 1 to 10.
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You forgot to tell how the Reptilians play into all of this.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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UncleBuck said:
reptilians reholstered zimm's gun while zimm straddled the kid instead of backing away and holding him at gunpoint.
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don't forget he was getting head slamed into concrete as he lay in the grass while Martin keep hitting him in the face, as Martin cover his mouth and nose at the same time while reaching for the gun that Zimm had holstered.sorry have to catch my breath While reaching Martin whispers very quietly " you going to die tonight"...Zimm somehow locks Martins arm to his side while getting his firearm ( Zimm has to really show me this awesome move) and shoots...Ah you got me said Martin...no i don't said Zimm..Now I have to ride you like a crazy cowboy.
 
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