The biggest scandal in u.s. History

ink the world

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There is absolutely no tracking of private sales. Go to a gun show, plenty of people there that sell privately and therefore are not subject to background checks. I've bought and sold guns privately and legally without any background checks at all
 

Mr Neutron

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There is absolutely no tracking of private sales. Go to a gun show, plenty of people there that sell privately and therefore are not subject to background checks. I've bought and sold guns privately and legally without any background checks at all
So...?????
 

nontheist

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There is absolutely no tracking of private sales. Go to a gun show, plenty of people there that sell privately and therefore are not subject to background checks. I've bought and sold guns privately and legally without any background checks at all
That's misleading, only USED guns by PRIVATE individuals are sold without any paperwork ALL new firearms sold MUST be register at the point of sale by the ATF. This is not even the case with fast and furious. Criminals get guns usually through theft and or black market, the true nuts usually don't get found out until its to late and there isn't a whole lot they can do about that.

I would like to add if a crazy decides to kill my I will gladly take a shot in the heart over my face eaten off while I am alive. This isn't an argument in any direction just my personal feeling about nuts with guns.
 

NoDrama

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The ones that allow a person to buy 100's of assault rifles in a short time while not tracking those guns. Cmon man be realistic, the reason American guns get into Mexico is because our lax gun laws make it easy. Im not trying to stop an gun sales, but if someone is gonna move hundreds of guns we should be at least keeping track of shit.

You wanna own an AK or an AR that's fine with me. Lets just tighten up on tracking and private sales. Our system encourages illegal gun trafficking by making private sales annonomous.
You are wrong, our gun laws are just fine, the fact that people are able to break the laws is what you have a problem with. Guess what? Outlaw guns and only outlaws have guns. Even if all guns were registered it isn't going to do ANYTHING to prevent them from going across the border. Even if you have GPS on every gun , they will STILL go across the border just fine. you can't stop it, no way no how ever. guns will ALWAYS go across the border no matter what laws are on the books or how vehemently they are followed.

Laws will always be broken, you are breaking federal laws by smoking MJ are you not?

FYI any gun sales from the same store within 5 days of each other get reported.

Most of the firearms found in Mexico came from somewhere other than the USA.
 

NoDrama

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That's misleading, only USED guns by PRIVATE individuals are sold without any paperwork ALL new firearms sold MUST be register at the point of sale by the ATF. This is not even the case with fast and furious. Criminals get guns usually through theft and or black market, the true nuts usually don't get found out until its to late and there isn't a whole lot they can do about that.

I would like to add if a crazy decides to kill my I will gladly take a shot in the heart over my face eaten off while I am alive. This isn't an argument in any direction just my personal feeling about nuts with guns.
That isn't quite right, NO GUNS EVER GET REGISTERED, PERIOD! You get a background check is all, no weapon serial number is ever given = cannot be registered.
 

nontheist

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That isn't quite right, NO GUNS EVER GET REGISTERED, PERIOD! You get a background check is all, no weapon serial number is ever given = cannot be registered.
I could have sworn last time they did a check the description of the firearm and serial was told to the agent on the phone. If not my apologies, maybe its just a background check but I know its recorded time/date/FFL dealer.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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anne coulter amounts to absolutely nothing. everything that comes out of her mouth is pure flatulence.
Can you imagine the American government/public's reaction had Mexico done this to us ?
Thousands upon thousands of citizens killed, police officers gunned down with weapons that we could prove the Mexican government purposely dropped into the hands of known hardened criminals and drug lords.
It is reprehensible, no?
 

NoDrama

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I could have sworn last time they did a check the description of the firearm and serial was told to the agent on the phone. If not my apologies, maybe its just a background check but I know its recorded time/date/FFL dealer.
They only ask if the firearm is a long gun (Shotgun /rifle) or a pistol/revolver. No serial numbers are recorded except in a log book that the seller keeps for a minimum amount of years.
 

deprave

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Normally I go with the liberal side of issues. I'm with the conservatives on this. It's completely wrong from the planning to the cover up. The conservatives will defend their criticisms all day. The liberals are acting like it is ok to cover up this event.
I completely agree its totally fucked up, I have made multiple threads about this all year and nobody even cared to reply until the republicans start harping over it. Republicans didn't even care untill they can point fingers and blame obama.

NEITHER OF THEM CARE ABOUT US, THEY HAVE ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO DIVIDE US SO THEY CAN STAY IN POWER - TO KEEP US HATIN ON "THE DEMOCRATS" OR "THE REPUBLICANS" AND VOTING FOR THEM JUST SO THE ONES WE HATE CAN NOT WIN. SO FUCKING STUPID AND CHILDISH. THE GOV HAS BEEN DOING SHIT JUST LIKE THIS FOR DECADES IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE.
 

JustAnotherHead

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Nice copy and paste from Anne Coulter....sad enough to copy and paste, but coming from that hate spewing windbag is the icing on your hyperbole cake

Iran/Contra, Watergate, Iraq War> this fictitious "scandal"

Keep making mountains out of molehills, its your only chance. Weve all seen the Teabaggers for what they are. Puppets of their corporate donors and the christian right
I think your government cheese log is melting.
 

Moses Mobetta

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I completely agree its totally fucked up, I have made multiple threads about this all year and nobody even cared to reply until the republicans start harping over it. Republicans didn't even care untill they can point fingers and blame obama.

NEITHER OF THEM CARE ABOUT US, THEY HAVE ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO DIVIDE US SO THEY CAN STAY IN POWER - TO KEEP US HATIN ON "THE DEMOCRATS" OR "THE REPUBLICANS" AND VOTING FOR THEM JUST SO THE ONES WE HATE CAN NOT WIN. SO FUCKING STUPID AND CHILDISH. THE GOV HAS BEEN DOING SHIT JUST LIKE THIS FOR DECADES IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE.
Agreed ....
 

JustAnotherHead

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Our laws do now allow trafficking it's just our government dont give two shits about the law.

Lets recap.....
US Government
1. Executes without a fair trial - Illegal
2. Kills people for their religious belief - Illegal
3. Blackmails other nations - Illegal
4. Hacks and created computer viruses to attack other nations - Illegal

We have a hypocritical government, need I say more?
The liberal solution to this problem is to make the federal government bigger and give it more power. We did that today. CHECK!
 

BA142

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Watergate? Iran-Contra? Gulf of Tonkin?



lol

I'm not defending Holder, what's happening IS fucked up but OP acts like this is the first scandal in US history.

Go back to school and learn US history...

BTW Holder totally looks like Oprah's boyfriend

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LOL
 

Red1966

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Nice copy and paste from Anne Coulter....sad enough to copy and paste, but coming from that hate spewing windbag is the icing on your hyperbole cake Iran/Contra, Watergate, Iraq War> this fictitious "scandal" Keep making mountains out of molehills, its your only chance. Weve all seen the Teabaggers for what they are. Puppets of their corporate donors and the christian right
I agree that it's not the biggest scandal, but it's wrong to dismiss it entirely just because a Democrat is involved. You're promoting a double standard.
 

Red1966

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Typical right-wing drone cut & pasting here from the OP. "copy this and forward to as many people as possible!" durr hurr, retard...
I get a couple emails everyday from the Re-elect Obama campaign that say "copy this and forward to as many people as possible!"
 

Wordz

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[video=youtube_share;JuedGDhkQKg]http://youtu.be/JuedGDhkQKg[/video]

I thought we agreed no more shit talk til we're back in power
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I know what you mean, each and every person should be required to only own 1 car or truck in their lifetime. There are roughly 235 Million passenger vehicles in the USA and I hear Jay Leno has like a hundred cars. Did you know that vehicles kill about 40,000 people every year? Cars/trucks are terrible weapons being used to kill our children and also being used in almost every conceivable and heinous crime imaginable. Bank robbers use them to run away, rapists use them to drive themselves home after raping, murderers use them to put distance between themselves and the person they just killed, Corrupt politicians use them to sneak around Washington. We need to ban vehicles in the USA, they are BAD BAD BAD!!
If that becomes law, I'd like a concealed carry provision. cn
 
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