Cmon neer, you were there in that thread. Im not for amnesty or anything but I also dont believe in mercilessly seperating families or sending children to an unfamiliar 3rd world country just because their parents are immigrants. I also dont think that you can judge an entire religion because a small minority of them are extremists.
I never said anything offensive about legal immigrant Mexicans, just those breaking the law. Think about it.
See.. you just blatantly put it out there. It doesnt matter if they are illegal immigrants, they are still human beings and deserve some rights.
Exactly. I was there. If you don't (can't or won't is the same here) provide clear examples of racism for us here and now, I say you have none. I am a bit bothered by how easy it has become to smear someone with the mere whispered accusation, so I oppose the tactic. With an apparently offhand remark, you have obligated yourself to display the evidence on this thread, or you carry a debt of honor until you apologize publicly and formally to WinterWoman. That is my considered opinion in this matter. cn
Blatant what? How is labeling illegals as abusers of the system at all racist? It's simple fact. cn
Shucks... alright im gonna have to do some thread fishing.
There is an undertone. A subliminal message. Basically "illegal immigrants shouldnt be treated as equal human beings like me and you".
I didn't say they don't have rights. I said that they need to get in the back of the line that all the legal immigrants are standing in.
Since when did you become a mind reader? You think you know what I'm thinking. Excuse me.
And that is exactly what I oppose. Undertones are in the eye and mind of the beholder. Imo you're propagating PC, which is anathema to secure adults. Now if there is something that would meet judicial standards of testimony, I'd take a less assertive stance. My opinion? Never mind undertones. Don't conditionalize your sense of dignity; be secure in it as your own. I consider "subliminal" to mean "made up", a perfect straw man. cn
You dont understand what that comes with tho. Alot of kids that would be left without parents and then we would have to pick up the check for there care while their parents are "in line" for 10 years.
I can't say she's racist since I haven't seen any proof. I'm not gonna lie though, I've felt a hint of racism coming from her that could not be explained. Like you said, it feels like a subliminal message.
Its a fucked up attitude that ive had to encounter my whole life. Somebody making judgments and thinking they know whats best for an entire race/group of ppl. Immigration is a big problem, but we dont have to be Nazis to solve it.
Are these quotes, or your interpretations, Heph? I don't recall her saying that. I thought I'd brokered a peace between you two. Looks like I was wrong. cn
But illegal immigrants aren't a race. That's why I'm saying we can't call her racist. Even if you have a strong feeling that she is.
Now you are being inflammatory, Kaendar. There isn't even a hint of racism in those posts. Correctly complaining that illegals are ... illegals, after all ... should not be grounds for an attack on someone's character, which you are perpetrating with your use of vile language and insinuation. You're in the moral abyss with that post, You need to work on your sense of shame imo. cn
Never made peace, just a truce. And that was broken when she "liked" a comment by some dude that called me a dumbass lol.
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This isnt just about immigration.. she clearly expressed her distaste for muslims just now. You can tell by the way she talks that she says things from a negative place and isnt carrying any sympathy or compassion towards these ppl. Id like to hear what she says about black ppl behind closed doors.
