The Post Office...

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
So you don't ever ever ever ever ever go into a USPS store, how the fuck should you know ANYTHING about them???
:dunce: :lol:
Wow. :D :D :D


YOU STILL DONT GET DO YOU DUMBASS.
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY BOXES AND TAPE THEY SELL.
THEY GIVE YOU THE PRIORITY BOXES AN TAPE.
NOW CAN YOU COMPREHEND THIS CONCEPT OR NOT RETARD......:dunce:
:dunce:
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
THEY GIVE THE PRIORITY BOXES AWAY THERE TOO........:finger:
You didn't say priority boxes at first. And maybe they do IN YOUR STATE.

This started off about tape, etc.
And in those three states you HAVE TO BUY THE TAPE, AND ENVELOPES if you walk in the post office to ship something.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
No matter how many times you tell me I'm wrong.
I have walked in the post office, and had to buy tape, and seen everything else for sale. I always have my own boxes and stuff though.
They sell sharpies, boxes, envelopes, if you ask for tape, they tell you to buy some. :lol: :lol: :dunce:
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
No matter how many times you tell me I'm wrong.
I have walked in the post office, and had to buy tape, and seen everything else for sale. I always have my own boxes and stuff though.
They sell sharpies, boxes, envelopes, if you ask for tape, they tell you to buy some. :lol: :lol: :dunce:
SO YOU ARE STILL DANCING AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY GIVE YOU THE PRORITY BOXES FOR FREE AND THE PRIORITY TAPE...:roll:
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
SO YOU ARE STILL DANCING AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY GIVE YOU THE PRORITY BOXES FOR FREE AND THE PRIORITY TAPE...:roll:
Lol
this wasn't a discussion about "priority items", and I honestly have no idea if they give that stuff away.

But the stuff that we ARE TALKING ABOUT.... REGULAR tape, REGULAR envelopes, REGULAR boxes. They make you buy when you walk in :dunce:
 

beenthere

New Member
Having a Postal service is mandated by the Constitution. Nothing in the Constitution says it has to turn a profit or even break even.
Nothing in the US Constitution mandates having a postal service, what constitution are you reading? LOL
 

chrishydro

Well-Known Member
So if you haven't heard the USPS is running out of money.
If nothing is done they will go broke, and have to shut down. This could be within five years.
This would mean no more postcards, thank you letters, or anything like that. It would cost $10 flat to FedEx it...And jail will have to start letting people call whoever they want, instead of having a calling list of like 3 people that you have to choose. It would just be cruel and unusual punishment, to not let you write family.


I've got an idea though.
Public Transportation should be going out of business too, because to many people use cars. But they have people paying them for ADVERTISING.
Public buses, or light rails have ads inside, outside, and at the stations.

The post office needs to "Sell Out".
Companies need to start paying to have their logos on stamps, or envelopes. On postal cars, public mailboxes, and the post office itself.

If they advertise for people, they can survive. And companies can advertise like that, instead of sending you so much shitty mail everyday.
Unless congress bails them out...That's another option...
Ross Perot tried to buy the Postal Service years ago, problem was then and is now, way too many Vets and Minorities working there. All of them would lose their jobs, just look for Congress to continue to bail them out. Just something we are saddled with.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
The USPS is constitutionally mandated government entity. The Postal Clause (in which UB supplied the location of in the Constitution) makes it so. It gave congress the enumerated powers to create what we call the USPS.
 

tet1953

Well-Known Member
The USPS is constitutionally mandated government entity. The Postal Clause (in which UB supplied the location of in the Constitution) makes it so. It gave congress the enumerated powers to create what we call the USPS.
A power is not a mandate, I believe is the point made earlier. Hard to disagree with that.
 

beenthere

New Member
The USPS is constitutionally mandated government entity. The Postal Clause (in which UB supplied the location of in the Constitution) makes it so. It gave congress the enumerated powers to create what we call the USPS.
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress



The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.



I think you need to look up the word mandate amigo. The US Constitution gives congress the authority to establish post offices, it doesn't mandate them. The same way it gives congress the authority to declare war and collect taxes, that in no way means we must have wars, taxes or a post office.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
OMG ok people school is in

first lets look up mandate:
1 : an order from a higher court to a lower court
2 a : an authoritative command, instruction, or direction b : authorization or approval given to a representative especially by voters <accepted the mandate of the people>
3 a : a commission granted by the League of Nations to a member nation to administer a territory on its behalf b : a mandated territory

Now again the USPS is a constitutionally mandated government entity...Congress has the authoritative command to establish Post Office and post roads per the Postal Clause

I really hope you guys are joking if not...DAMMNNNNNNNNN

ring ring schools out
 

tet1953

Well-Known Member
Lol no, I wasn't joking. Now, if you want to say that because of what is written in the Constitution that Congress has an ethical mandate, or a moral one, to create post offices you would have a stronger argument. But enumerated powers are not mandates to act. If it weren't in there then there would certainly be an argument against the gov't ability to create POs, but it does not say they must.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Lol no, I wasn't joking. Now, if you want to say that because of what is written in the Constitution that Congress has an ethical mandate, or a moral one, to create post offices you would have a stronger argument. But enumerated powers are not mandates to act. If it weren't in there then there would certainly be an argument against the gov't ability to create POs, but it does not say they must.
???? dude enumerated powers are powers that are set aside for Congress nothing more nothing less... Congress has this enumerated power to establish postal roads and offices per a Constitutionally authoritative command which by definition is a mandate... Now are you going to argue that an authoritative command is not a mandate by definition ?
 
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