chrishydro
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Seriously, cant write a check, cant use your credit card, cant fly, cant rent a car, apartment nothing unless you have ID so wtf should you be able to vote for?
Valid ID to Vote
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So the lefties can count prisoners, illegal aliens and dead people.
chrishydro
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It just seems pretty straight forward to me, I did not know you did not have to have ID. I go and vote I throw my license and Voter Card down every time for the last 30 years. Who knew I could do it without.
Ringsixty
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They need votes by which ever means possible.
Fraud works.
Personally, I believe it should be mandatory ID to vote.
Shit, I'm more harsh than that, I don't think people should vote unless they can pass a simple civics test!
nontheist
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The point is moot, you cant even get medical care without an ID. I am sure we will hear some crazy ass poll tax argument but I still don't know why I have a "tax" to access my money or to be found competent to drive a car.
UncleBuck
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ummm, what? last two times i went and got medical care they never asked for an ID. you're letting your 14 year old wisdom shine through.
all that needs to be required to vote is proof of residence. you do not need an ID for this.
btw, driving a car is a privilege, not a right. you will learn that in 2 years or so (depending on which state you live in). voting is questionably a "right", but the 24th amendment makes it clear that you do not have to pay to vote. until IDs are handed out for free, to require one to vote would be in violation of the constitution.
of course, the righties here don't care about the constitution except for the second and tenth amendments, so my words will fall on deaf ears.
UncleBuck
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Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
[h=2]de fac·to[/h]   [dee fak-toh, dey] Show IPA
noun 1. in fact; in reality: Although his title was prime minister, he was de facto president of the country. Although the school was said to be open to all qualified students, it still practiced de facto segregation.
2. actually existing, especially when without lawful authority ( distinguished from de jure).
So, exactly how much does an ID cost in the 50 States? Not a DL, mind you, just a basic ID card[h=2]de fac·to[/h]   [dee fak-toh, dey] Show IPA
noun 1. in fact; in reality: Although his title was prime minister, he was de facto president of the country. Although the school was said to be open to all qualified students, it still practiced de facto segregation.
2. actually existing, especially when without lawful authority ( distinguished from de jure).
- Alabama – $23
- Alaska – Under 60 is $15, over 60 is free
- Arizona – $12. Over 65 is free
- Arkansas – $10
- California – $23. Free for those over 62. $7 for low income folks
- Colorado – $10.50. Free for those over 60
- Connecticut – $15
- Delaware -$5
- Florida – $3 whole friggin’ dollars!!!!!!
- Georgia -$20 for 5 years, $35 for $10 years
- Hawaii – $15 for under 65, $10 for over 65
- Idaho – $7.50. Renewals can even be done by mail
- Illinois – $20, free for seniors over 65with no renewal necessary
- Indiana – $13 under 65, $10 for over 65, last for 6 years, which is the state this whole kerfuffle is over
- Iowa – $5
- Kansas – $18 under 65, $14 over 65
- Kentucky – $12
- Louisiana – Average $21, free for over 60
- Maine – $5
- Maryland – $15, free for those over 65
- Massachusetts – $15
- Michigan – $10, free for seniors. Oh, and those with mental impairments (hint, hint)
- Minnesota – $15.50, $10.75 for those 65 and up
- Mississippi – $13
- Missouri – $11
- Montana – $8
- Nebraska – $23.75 (lots of different fees for those under 21)
- Nevada – $11.25. For 65 and up, new is $6.25, renewal is $2.25
- New Hampshire – haven’t been able to find the cost, even at the New Hampshire DMV or New Hampshire’s main site
- New Jersey – $24
- New Mexico – $5 for 5 years, $8 for 10 years
- New York – Depending on length, $9 to $14. 62 and up, $6.50
- North Carolina – $10
- North Dakota – $8
- Ohio – $8.50
- Oklahoma – $10
- Oregon – $29 for 8 years
- Pennsylvania – $10, and they make it really, really easy
- Rhode Island – $15, free for 59 and up
- South Carolina – $5
- South Dakota – $8
- Tennessee – $12.50. For those 65 and up, they never expire
- Texas – $15. 60 and up, $5 and never has to be renewed
- Utah – $18. Never expires for those 65 and up
- Vermont – $15, $10 if you get Social Security Income
- Virginia – $10
- Washington – $20
- West Virginia – can’t find an actual figure
- Wisconsin – $28 for eight years
- Wyoming – $10, never expires
- Washington, D.C. – How much you got? In reality, $20.
Canna Sylvan
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Why is it conservatives are all against Big Brother, but support the leviathan of all Big Brother schemes, voter id?
What's next, don't vote we kill you! Wasn't that the Kanye method? Didn't know he was conservative.
What's next, don't vote we kill you! Wasn't that the Kanye method? Didn't know he was conservative.
Canna Sylvan
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You can drive at 14 in Montana. My wife still has her learner permit she got at 14 and her driver's licence when she was 15.
Canna Sylvan
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Sorry dude, but that's illegal. They can only ask for your insurance information, which includes medicare. How do you think illegals get medical care? They all have ssn? I was never once asked for my id from a doctor. I never show id for prescriptions either. All you do is sign your name. Medical fraud is serious business, just ask Rush Limbaugh.
tomahawk2406
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you said you can't get medical care without an ID
truth is you can
you are 110% dead fucking wrong if you think otherwise
nontheist
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LOL seriously? I had a bitch at the ER dig my wallet out while I was strapped to a journey after an accident, then I waited for 45mins for an MRI after a bad wreck (I have insurance). Funny how they called for my balance I owed with 4 days oh well. Then I seen the red flag from FTC with my own eyes was at the window.
Canna Sylvan
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I don't give a fuck about poll taxes excuse. I have no problem with the fee. My complaint is the invasion of personal liberty. It's just another way to track you. No one except my landlord or creditors can find me. My driver's license has an address on it where I haven't lived for nearly 20 years. The more mandatory ids you get, the less freedom. I could give a fuck how liberals are pissed illegals and their dead relatives can't vote anymore. Use biometrics, like signature comparison if you're so worried about fraud.
Canna Sylvan
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You can sue over that. That's utter bullshit.
nontheist
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[h=3]The FTC's Red Flags Rule[/h] In an effort to curb identity theft, the Federal Trade Commission in 2007 unveiled what they called the Red Flags Rule." The Red Flags Rule requires all creditors to collect social security numbers and other pieces of personal information to prove the borrower is who he or she says they are. If a borrower does not not have the required documentation, that raises a red flag.
Originally, doctors and other healthcare entities were included in the lists of creditors who were required to collect all that personal information, because medical identity theft, including health insurance information, is growing exponentially. But those providers fought the rule, focusing on the fact that they do not consider themselves to be creditors as a credit card or mortgage company might be.
Originally, doctors and other healthcare entities were included in the lists of creditors who were required to collect all that personal information, because medical identity theft, including health insurance information, is growing exponentially. But those providers fought the rule, focusing on the fact that they do not consider themselves to be creditors as a credit card or mortgage company might be.
Canna Sylvan
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That's because the ingredients in it are scheduled. You're now on a DEA database as a potential meth lab. Blame the drug war and Obama who could end it tomorrow for that. Get a cold, and you're labeled a potential terrorist!
kelly4
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That's funny.....
In post #43 of the Florida Purge thread you stated that an ID in oregon cost $56 dollars.