A US Teenager Who Grew Up In Denver Was Executed WITHOUT TRIAL With a DRONE

[Dr Kynes]

abdurachman al alawaki (thats junior) is not unique. the only thing special about his tale is the spectacular pyrotechnics involved in his story arc resolution.

when an americana citizen leaves the us to embark on a pilgrimage to join a terrorist organization they have made their own decision. rarely does the US government intervene on their behalf, and it is not unthinkable that they could find themselves facing US military forces.

lori berenson

the hype: http://www.freelori.org/news/96jan12_ap.html
the facts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Berenson

Taliban Johnny:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh

i cant be bothered to dig for more examples of jackoffs who embraced the thrill packed life of a terrorist and came to regret it. junior just got unlucky and blew up before he could get sent to Sandals Guantanamo Bay Resort. he stood in the target zone by his own choice. nobody forced him to hang out in al banni's shadow, and he certainly wasnt targeted by the US military. al banni was the target he was stupidly standing in a spot al banni liked to hang out.

there is no constitutional crisis, no horrifying scandal and no blame to lay at the feet of obama. i do not fault obama for ordering the launch of the al banni multiball play, nobody would imagine that any person who attended a school in the US woiuld be ignorant enough to linger in the splash zone where al quaeda terrorists might receive a missile.

trying to manufacture some outrage over the incidental termination of a traitor operating in accord with al quaeda in a war zone is ridiculous.

 

[Harrekin]

That all you've got? Weak sauce.

He said he was satisfied that the strike was ordered by high ranking military personelle under orders from POTUS Hussein.

If you're gonna call strawman, make sure you read into the context of the statement made.

Youre like a two year old running around with a steak knife.

 

[Dr Kynes]

That all you've got? Weak sauce.

He said he was satisfied that the strike was ordered by high ranking military personelle under orders from POTUS Hussein.

If you're gonna call strawman, make sure you read into the context of the statement made.

Youre like a two year old running around with a steak knife.

ohh i think he has a pretty good handle on the context. in fact the strawman pictured is quite a bit more substantial and realistic than the one you clumsily threw together.

i trust barack hussein obama and mitt romney to handle the hard choices far more than i would trust you, rob roy, deprave or abandonconflict. fuck i would trust uncle buck to make the call before i turned to you.

at least buck thinks before he speaks.

 

[canndo]

no.

is that simple enough for you?

no, i am essentially completely satisfied that the missile was properly targeted, struck it's designated target location, and was launched under orders by senior officers who received their orders from the desk of barack hussein obama.

the missile delivered it's payload and detonated with satisfactory results, and provided sufficient destructive force to end the life of ibrahim al banni, abdulrachman al alawaki and several other individuals who were in the designated locations inside the zoine of engagement in al quaeda controlled territory within the borders of the duly recognized nation of Yemen. The Yemeni government has expressed no concern regarding the strike, and therefore the matter is closed.

good job all around. maybe the next chucklehead who runs off to yemen to join al quaeda will find a similar fate. one can only hope.

Fascinating. This post has brought out the dumb liberal in me. Your arguments are persusasive but must be wrong because they don't feel right. I can't mount a cogent argument but you are wrong, you are a meany and I don't like you or the slippery slope I see in your discription of this poor teen being gunned down in cold blood by monsters who no no bounds in their immoral activity.


there.


(except the kid was targeted, and so was not in common with your contention that Fonda would only have herself to blame had she been killed)

 

[Dr Kynes]

Fascinating. This post has brought out the dumb liberal in me. Your arguments are persusasive but must be wrong because they don't feel right. I can't mount a cogent argument but you are wrong, you are a meany and I don't like you or the slippery slope I see in your discription of this poor teen being gunned down in cold blood by monsters who no no bounds in their immoral activity.


there.


(except the kid was targeted, and so was not in common with your contention that Fonda would only have herself to blame had she been killed)

there has been no statement that junior was on the target list. in fact he could not have been on the target list because he decided to become a militant aaand left to join al quaeda only after his pop got popped, a mere two weeks before he fell to the mighty obamas crazy flipper fingers in multiball play. or do you propose that the yemeni security forces, the cia and pentagon can bump a guy up to the big list in less than 2 weeks, and get obama to authorize his targeting, while concealing the secret inside the order to throw 3 missiles at 3 locations in an attempt to bag al banni, who most people had never heard of... all that without tilting, or losing a play.

man, barry really is a pinball wizard.

 

[Harrekin]

ohh i think he has a pretty good handle on the context. in fact the strawman pictured is quite a bit more substantial and realistic than the one you clumsily threw together.

i trust barack hussein obama and mitt romney to handle the hard choices far more than i would trust you, rob roy, deprave or abandonconflict. fuck i would trust uncle buck to make the call before i turned to you.

at least buck thinks before he speaks.

Well then my friend, you truely are the dumbest shit giraffe in the dumb-dumb salad.

Good luck with the rest of your life, trusting politicians is something most people learn to be totally foolish around age 11.

 

[nontheist]

Well then my friend, you truely are the dumbest shit giraffe in the dumb-dumb salad.

Good luck with the rest of your life, trusting politicians is something most people learn to be totally foolish around age 11.

 

[cannabineer]

There'd be no war whatsoever if the whole world smoked some of the shit I have drying. That Skunk #1, that AK48 and for the hash we have Big Bud.

I personally am totally uninterested in war at the minute and have no ill will towards anyone.

Good aul treadmills...

The Battle for the Last Danish would make it into the books. cn

 

[Rob Roy]

ohh i think he has a pretty good handle on the context. in fact the strawman pictured is quite a bit more substantial and realistic than the one you clumsily threw together.

i trust barack hussein obama and mitt romney to handle the hard choices far more than i would trust you, rob roy, deprave or abandonconflict. fuck i would trust uncle buck to make the call before i turned to you.

at least buck thinks before he speaks.

Wow, you are a comedian too? A "libertarian" that doesn't follow the non aggression principle and thinks Barack and Mittens can make the "hard choices".

 

[Harrekin]

The Battle for the Last Danish would make it into the books. cn

The only people making a killing would be Doritos et al.

 

[Dr Kynes]

alcoholism is not a tiny problem. nor is subjugation by the limeys. or by the papists. nor the inability to maintain coherent thought when facing the prospect of a potato famine.

these are all major issues. and it's not right to make fun of people's disabilities.

you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[canndo]

there has been no statement that junior was on the target list. in fact he could not have been on the target list because he decided to become a militant aaand left to join al quaeda only after his pop got popped, a mere two weeks before he fell to the mighty obamas crazy flipper fingers in multiball play. or do you propose that the yemeni security forces, the cia and pentagon can bump a guy up to the big list in less than 2 weeks, and get obama to authorize his targeting, while concealing the secret inside the order to throw 3 missiles at 3 locations in an attempt to bag al banni, who most people had never heard of... all that without tilting, or losing a play.

man, barry really is a pinball wizard.

If the guy was not targeted then I am forced to agree with everything you say. My problem is that we are not privey to the way these hit lists are assembled, not now, not ever. It is not beyond the realm of imagination that two weeks is not enough time for such a list to be amended if no one but the select few in a single branch of government has anything to do with such a list.

 

[missnu]

Honestly, I don't care what he allegedly did - he was an American that was targeted and executed without the due process that is guaranteed by law.
Who's next?

Didn't they get rid of due process with that Preventative indefinite Detainment crap...where they said the military could lock up anyone, including but not limited to americans for as long they see fit, without trial, and without a crime even having been committed? All the military has to do is say you a US combatant, and off you go...

 

[cannabineer]

A bit off topic but is that singular or plural? Would it be more correct to call somebody a "poopy pant" ?

Only if that somebody is an amputee near the hip. cn

 

[Harrekin]

alcoholism is not a tiny problem. nor is subjugation by the limeys. or by the papists. nor the inability to maintain coherent thought when facing the prospect of a potato famine.

these are all major issues. and it's not right to make fun of people's disabilities.

you should be ashamed of yourself.

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So even tho we rank higher in education and have somehow managed to give free education and healthcare we're the dumb ones?

You guys have Obamacare and 3rd Level Education that is inaccessible to "normal" people.

Obvious fail is obvious.

 

[missnu]

Nobody in this thread has a leg to stand on...because the constitution doesn't mean shit..the US will do what it wants to you when it wants...no matter what country, what color, what crime, or lack thereof...
So to argue oh it violates this or that...
Those things don't really exist as far as I can tell...I mean I know that the historic documents exist...
but hasn't anyone else noticed that none of it has any meaning?

 

[Harrekin]

I come from a nation with a history of "freedom fighters", so let me put this in context;

So if I'm drinking in the pub and some IRA guy is there I'm automatically a terrorist and an "incidental target"?


And the POTUS can now order my execution and you're just ok with that?

 

[cannabineer]

Nobody in this thread has a leg to stand on...because the constitution doesn't mean shit..the US will do what it wants to you when it wants...no matter what country, what color, what crime, or lack thereof...
So to argue oh it violates this or that...
Those things don't really exist as far as I can tell...I mean I know that the historic documents exist...
but hasn't anyone else noticed that none of it has any meaning?

I cannot in good conscience assume such an attitude ... it boils down to a disgusted "fuck it. I give up."
Those of us in the US have a responsibility to gripe and beef and whinge at our elected representatives about setting such things right and keeping them there. Having express laws is incomplete - constant pressure from the constituents is a necessary ingredient in the recipe for a working, governed society.
I implore you not to say "fuck it". Find the things that bug you and share them with your State and national congresscritters. cn

 

[londonfog]

In a strange way, the lopsided struggle the US has is similar to the American Revolution. The Brits wanted to fight the 'civilized' way: lining up on the battlefield and sending volley after volley at each others lines. The revolutionary fighters fought guerrilla style, hiding in trees, making quick strike raids, etc. When fighting on someone elses home turf, the home teem will use any resource at their disposal to defend their homeland.

My trouble has less to do with the horrors of the war itself (I can't think of a war without atrocities), as with the glib attitude folks back in the US have about it. We have become so jaded that the civilian population no longer pushes back for the rule of law, or resists the expansion of governmental power-- folks even cheer it on.

In this dark mindset, the only comfort people find is that the US is the mightiest, wealthiest and most familiar. We hope that as long as the military forces are fighting someone else we are safe. The trouble with 'might is right' is that sooner or later the mightiest will not be on our side. We are creating a world in which we will eventually be subjugated, and no one will stand up for us.

Being prior military I can't comment without bias, but I did find myself thinking this is one of the better comments in this thread.^^^^^^^

 

[missnu]

I cannot in good conscience assume such an attitude ... it boils down to a disgusted "fuck it. I give up."
Those of us in the US have a responsibility to gripe and beef and whinge at our elected representatives about setting such things right and keeping them there. Having express laws is incomplete - constant pressure from the constituents is a necessary ingredient in the recipe for a working, governed society.
I implore you not to say "fuck it". Find the things that bug you and share them with your State and national congresscritters. cn

I lost hope as soon as the government was able to sign that whole preventative indefinite detainment thing into being...it was all over for me...Then that anti-abortion shit that makes it alright to kill women...I checked out...I just want to leave this place...and I think more people should realize they are fighting uselessly...there will be no change...they have written all the laws they need to do whatever they want----if people follow said laws...So complaining is not enough...when the riots that are needed start--I am there...but til then, fuck it for real!
I just don't like when people say, "The government can't do that, it is unconstitutional." Or "they can't do that, it is against the law." Well they just fucking did it! So now what?!