Thought crimes?

[ginwilly]

In my ridiculous 3 scene example I gave of different reasons you drove to my house to kill me how should a jury decide the length of your sentence?

 

[Mr Neutron]

no, im siting reasons, its up to a court to prove malicious intent

thats right the court has to prove that a hate crime was commited, its not a guarantee, innocent till proven guilty for sure, they have to prove it,

... and how does one do that?

 

[ChesusRice]

... and how does one do that?

Usually by pointing out the nazi face tattoos
Prior web postings of racist intent
police records
maybe eyewitnesses that recall the perp yelling "kill all the niggers starting with this one"

 

[Mr Neutron]

Usually by pointing out the nazi face tattoos
Prior web postings of racist intent
police records
maybe eyewitnesses that recall the perp yelling "kill all the niggers starting with this one"

So if this sorry piece of shit kills a minority for a different reason or by accident, he's going to get prosecuted for a hate crime anyway?
Does this mean that reputation means something? Bucky? Are you listening? What say you?

 

[ChesusRice]

So if this sorry piece of shit kills a minority for a different reason or by accident, he's going to get prosecuted for a hate crime anyway?
Does this mean that reputation means something? Bucky? Are you listening? What sat you?

Doesnt mean that
But I think the facebook posting right before he killed the guy stating
We gonna kill the bruthas
Might show intent

 

[Mr Neutron]

Doesnt mean that
But I think the facebook posting right before he killed the guy stating
We gonna kill the bruthas
Might show intent

Might? Pretty flimsy. Do you enjoy chasing your tail?

 

[ginwilly]

So if this sorry piece of shit kills a minority for a different reason or by accident, he's going to get prosecuted for a hate crime anyway?
Does this mean that reputation means something? Bucky? Are you listening? What sat you?

Doesnt mean that
But I think the facebook posting right before he killed the guy stating
We gonna kill the bruthas
Might show intent

Chesus?

are you placing more value on one life over the other based on a killer's thought process? Do the parents of the intended hate crime victim get more satisfaction than the parents of the "you got peanut butter on my chocolate" victim? Do you not understand what this could lead to? The punishment should be the same for both, Lady Justice doesn't need racial glasses.

Unless you are one of those Al Sharpton we have to stop black on black crimes racist fucks, then nevermind, carry on.

 

[Mr Neutron]

Doesnt mean that
But I think the facebook posting right before he killed the guy stating
We gonna kill the bruthas
Might show intent

What about this? Is this a hate crime?

[video=youtube_share;yn8CE5ISUSw]http://youtu.be/yn8CE5ISUSw[/video]

 

[Mr Neutron]

... or how about this?

[video=youtube_share;MST4RhWdlMQ]http://youtu.be/MST4RhWdlMQ[/video]

 

[ChesusRice]

What about this? Is this a hate crime?

[video=youtube_share;yn8CE5ISUSw]http://youtu.be/yn8CE5ISUSw[/video]

Yes
But unfortunatly
They dont have a category for cops
Surprised they didnt play the pipe organ on him like they did me

Pipe Organ?
Cop is on your back pushing your face into the pavement
You have your hands under your face becuase the street is hard
Then he starts punching you in the kidneys screaming "Put your hands behind your back!"
As soon as you put your hands behind your back he starts slamming your face into the pavement
so you put your hands in front of your face to protect them

At which point he goes back to punching you in the kidneys and yelling
"Put your hands behind your back!"

and the process repeats itself until more cops show up and start kicking you yelling
DO NOT RESIST!

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

In my ridiculous 3 scene example I gave of different reasons you drove to my house to kill me how should a jury decide the length of your sentence?

if the prosecution has three ways to spin the story then its highly dubious that any are right, at least in this context, right enough to prove a hate crime

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

... and how does one do that?

are you asking me how a court proves something to be unequivocally right or the truth or correct, i dont think i have enough legal knowledge or knowledge of laws to answer with certianty but some how the courts are still running . . . .

 

[Mr Neutron]

Yes
But unfortunatly
They dont have a category for cops

Who are "they"?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

So if this sorry piece of shit kills a minority for a different reason or by accident, he's going to get prosecuted for a hate crime anyway?
Does this mean that reputation means something? Bucky? Are you listening? What say you?

No is my answer to your first question , yes reputation means something, UB is listening , more than likely, and i cant speak for buck but thats how i feel

 

[Mr Neutron]

No is my answer to your first question , yes reputation means something, UB is listening , more than likely, and i cant speak for buck but thats how i feel

He's on record saying "reputation means nothing".

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

He's on record saying "reputation means nothing".

whats your point . . . .this is not the "UB !, Your my not my father" thread.

and hey smart guy . . . . he was more than likely referring to the sites "reputation system" lmfao . . . read that cover, dont ever read the book, its a shallow mind as well as a consciousness

and if he was referring to the reputation from a persons in context to a crime, you need to go read the trvyon martin thread, he pretty much says the exact opposite all the time, in referring to Z's history with crime and wife beating's , female subjection

 

[cannabineer]

 

[Mr Neutron]

whats your point . . . .this is not the "UB !, Your my not my father" thread.

You just committed a thought crime.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

how is claiming some one is not my father . . .in any way a thought or hate crime . . .?

epic fail

You just committed a thought crime.

what in any way makes this a possible crime

"whats your point . . . .this is not the "UB !, Your my not my father" thread."- me

 

[ginwilly]

if the prosecution has three ways to spin the story then its highly dubious that any are right, at least in this context, right enough to prove a hate crime

it wasn't ways to spin a story for the jury, it was three distinctly different acts. I asked if each should be punished according to why they killed me, or should they be equal under the law because each was a pre-meditated vicious murder. I'm thinking you do but I'm hoping you are starting to realize how wrong that is. If not I'm trying to figure out why. I don't understand the Al Sharpton mentality but I would like to.