hey guys, wanted to let you in on something i'm doing
a couple grows ago i managed to somehow break off a handful of low branches on my plants right before i switched to flower. strain was chemdog x sourdiesel. i didn't even bother throwing them in my cloner and just stuck them in 5x5x7 inch pots, no hormone or nothing. they all rooted, i was like huh? and just left them in my flowering room (4x600 watts). The result was beautiful, each one did the exact same thing, they grew one major "cola", which was really just a single huge bud, then 6 more buds - they all had two branch sets, so one nug per branch at the end plus 1 at the node. they pulled in between 15 and 20 grams, and they were nice and dense, covered with resin and had great esters, they matched up perfectly to the mothers in 3 and 5 gallon pots. oh and the plants were about 10 inches tall - since they didn't veg they didn't grow much more than a couple inches and add one of the branch sets. here's my feeding schedule
during veg:
foxfarms - grow big & big bloom
bloom nutrients - roots & seafuel
orca killer roots
hygrozome
humboldt nutrients structural integrity (SI is a silica additive, if you don't use a silica additive I suggest it, especially if you're doing indoors and not under optimal conditions. i have great conditions but it also helps the plant protect itself from molds, especially systemic one like PM)
@flowering i add bloom ultra and foxfarms open sesame. 36 hours dark, feed the ultra at hour 18 - you will have flowers when you turn the lights back on, no jokes
during flowering:
foxfarms tiger bloom, big bloom, open sesame, beastie bloomz, & cha-ching
bloom roots, seafuel, phat
humboldt nutrients - gravity & structural integrity
orca killer roots
hygrozome
bud candy
I use a lot of flowering additives. People usually roll their eyes or start lecturing me about stressing the plant, proper feeding, etc. I've figured out how much I can feed, which is a lot (people that freak out about gravity need to chill), before I start stressing the plants, and believe me, the results are unreal. You have to be careful though, if your strain already grows really dense nugs i might dial back the gravity and bud candy, they'll turn into f'ing rocks. and as far using foxfarms goes - i've been doing it for maybe 4 years, did advanced before that and wasn't happy. love foxfarms. only thing i think shows noticeable difference is house and garden, I haven't experimented with the Bloom base nutrients but am going to because i love them for roots and micronutrients, and ultra is the tits. I'm probably going to switch to house and garden after this grow. so damn expensive though!
SO - back to what this post is about
i've got 5 3x3 foot trays in my flowering room, and i can fit 25 7x7x9 inch pots in each tray. and for you skeptics who grow your plants in 3 gallon bags or buckets, a gallon is 231 cubic inches. the pots i'm using are 441. you can fit realistically about a gallon and a half of soil in each pot. so yah, it's not a lot of soil, but it's more than you might think, and i'm growing very small plants. i've grown 8 foot indoor plants and know how to do that too
i've potted like 60 clones, they've been vegging a few days, a couple have been vegging about a week and are looking great, they're almost at the point where i'd switch them. the plan is to let them get to around a foot then switch, so they finish just under 2 feet. i'm going to top a handful and see how they respond as well, given the short veg they're only gonna get to enough nodes for me to top right before i switch, so they won't get as much time to recover as normal and there's the whole hermie risk.
I'm trying this out on the following strains to see how the different ones respond - chemdogxsourdiesel, new york power diesel, white castle (white widowxICE), blue mystic, swiss cheese (finishes in 6 weeks, check it out), and trainwreck.
We'll see how it goes, I had a friend do this and was getting an ounce a plant routinely. i can fit 125 pots which means 125 ounces, or 3500 grams, or 1.4 grams a watt. I have 4 600 watt fixtures in a line down a my 5 trays, which create a 3x15 foot flowering area. They're all ducted with a separate intake that brings in air at around 68 degrees through a 600 cfm fan, i have xtra sun reflectors, i think they're the xxxl's, they're enormous, 32 inches wide. so basically i can get my lights really damn close. i've pulled off 2 grams per watt before, but it was doing things much differently, with 1k's and plants in 20 gallon pots that were vegged for 8 months! you need a lot of space for those kind of trees though. and those are TREES! i'm talkin trunks that at the base are thicker than my fist. ah i wish i had a warehouse again
9 lbs off that sq footage is asking a lot but i just had a friend and first time grower, i built his room and walked him through it, he pulled 6 and a half pounds off four 600 watt fixtures. those were 3 to 4 foot plants in 3 gallon bags though... i'm hopeful - think about it - i can keep my lights very low, and probably 60 to 70 percent of the plants leafs will be exposed to light - there won't be any internal crowding in each respective plant since they're so small (and i'll lollipop them), and they'll barely be crowding each other.
anyone else ever do this? wish me luck!
a couple grows ago i managed to somehow break off a handful of low branches on my plants right before i switched to flower. strain was chemdog x sourdiesel. i didn't even bother throwing them in my cloner and just stuck them in 5x5x7 inch pots, no hormone or nothing. they all rooted, i was like huh? and just left them in my flowering room (4x600 watts). The result was beautiful, each one did the exact same thing, they grew one major "cola", which was really just a single huge bud, then 6 more buds - they all had two branch sets, so one nug per branch at the end plus 1 at the node. they pulled in between 15 and 20 grams, and they were nice and dense, covered with resin and had great esters, they matched up perfectly to the mothers in 3 and 5 gallon pots. oh and the plants were about 10 inches tall - since they didn't veg they didn't grow much more than a couple inches and add one of the branch sets. here's my feeding schedule
during veg:
foxfarms - grow big & big bloom
bloom nutrients - roots & seafuel
orca killer roots
hygrozome
humboldt nutrients structural integrity (SI is a silica additive, if you don't use a silica additive I suggest it, especially if you're doing indoors and not under optimal conditions. i have great conditions but it also helps the plant protect itself from molds, especially systemic one like PM)
@flowering i add bloom ultra and foxfarms open sesame. 36 hours dark, feed the ultra at hour 18 - you will have flowers when you turn the lights back on, no jokes
during flowering:
foxfarms tiger bloom, big bloom, open sesame, beastie bloomz, & cha-ching
bloom roots, seafuel, phat
humboldt nutrients - gravity & structural integrity
orca killer roots
hygrozome
bud candy
I use a lot of flowering additives. People usually roll their eyes or start lecturing me about stressing the plant, proper feeding, etc. I've figured out how much I can feed, which is a lot (people that freak out about gravity need to chill), before I start stressing the plants, and believe me, the results are unreal. You have to be careful though, if your strain already grows really dense nugs i might dial back the gravity and bud candy, they'll turn into f'ing rocks. and as far using foxfarms goes - i've been doing it for maybe 4 years, did advanced before that and wasn't happy. love foxfarms. only thing i think shows noticeable difference is house and garden, I haven't experimented with the Bloom base nutrients but am going to because i love them for roots and micronutrients, and ultra is the tits. I'm probably going to switch to house and garden after this grow. so damn expensive though!
SO - back to what this post is about
i've got 5 3x3 foot trays in my flowering room, and i can fit 25 7x7x9 inch pots in each tray. and for you skeptics who grow your plants in 3 gallon bags or buckets, a gallon is 231 cubic inches. the pots i'm using are 441. you can fit realistically about a gallon and a half of soil in each pot. so yah, it's not a lot of soil, but it's more than you might think, and i'm growing very small plants. i've grown 8 foot indoor plants and know how to do that too
i've potted like 60 clones, they've been vegging a few days, a couple have been vegging about a week and are looking great, they're almost at the point where i'd switch them. the plan is to let them get to around a foot then switch, so they finish just under 2 feet. i'm going to top a handful and see how they respond as well, given the short veg they're only gonna get to enough nodes for me to top right before i switch, so they won't get as much time to recover as normal and there's the whole hermie risk.
I'm trying this out on the following strains to see how the different ones respond - chemdogxsourdiesel, new york power diesel, white castle (white widowxICE), blue mystic, swiss cheese (finishes in 6 weeks, check it out), and trainwreck.
We'll see how it goes, I had a friend do this and was getting an ounce a plant routinely. i can fit 125 pots which means 125 ounces, or 3500 grams, or 1.4 grams a watt. I have 4 600 watt fixtures in a line down a my 5 trays, which create a 3x15 foot flowering area. They're all ducted with a separate intake that brings in air at around 68 degrees through a 600 cfm fan, i have xtra sun reflectors, i think they're the xxxl's, they're enormous, 32 inches wide. so basically i can get my lights really damn close. i've pulled off 2 grams per watt before, but it was doing things much differently, with 1k's and plants in 20 gallon pots that were vegged for 8 months! you need a lot of space for those kind of trees though. and those are TREES! i'm talkin trunks that at the base are thicker than my fist. ah i wish i had a warehouse again
9 lbs off that sq footage is asking a lot but i just had a friend and first time grower, i built his room and walked him through it, he pulled 6 and a half pounds off four 600 watt fixtures. those were 3 to 4 foot plants in 3 gallon bags though... i'm hopeful - think about it - i can keep my lights very low, and probably 60 to 70 percent of the plants leafs will be exposed to light - there won't be any internal crowding in each respective plant since they're so small (and i'll lollipop them), and they'll barely be crowding each other.
anyone else ever do this? wish me luck!
