Just vote and move on. :-)

If you had an accidental child and wasn't financially or felt like you weren't around

  • Abortion

    Votes: 29 60.4%
  • Adoption

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • Keep the baby

    Votes: 15 31.3%

  • Total voters
    48

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Yes, it really was for me and Mr Mellow. I am not apologetic.

All Pro Lifer's I assume are religious? I ask you what about god's divine plan? Just maybe this omniscient and perfect being you call god had abortion in his grand design so that we could heal those already with us using stem cells?

who are you to question god's divine plan?
I'm more of an agnostic...so my verdict on God is still out...but as a man any women who gets pregnant by me better know that she will be having that baby !!! She does not have to be around. I would raise her/him alone if needed, but you will not kill something that has my DNA. The best smell in the world is that of a clean happy baby.. fresh from a bath and powered up..Sorry can't and won't even try to understand someone saying "killing my child was the best and I have no regret."
 

april

Pickle Queen
Yes, it really was for me and Mr Mellow. I am not apologetic.

All Pro Lifer's I assume are religious? I ask you what about god's divine plan? Just maybe this omniscient and perfect being you call god had abortion in his grand design so that we could heal those already with us using stem cells?

who are you to question god's divine plan?
I was educated in a catholic private french school, I don't attend church , I think with my brain and heart, I saved my retarted kitten from certain death, life is about living, baby jesus aint got nothing to do with this girl. Religion gave me a reason to question this world and things people do and say, U assuming things is the issue, not religion ;)
I smoke, drink, have dirty dirty safe sex, and baby jesus supports me all the way.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
I was educated in a catholic private french school, I don't attend church , I think with my brain and heart, I saved my retarted kitten from certain death, life is about living, baby jesus aint got nothing to do with this girl. Religion gave me a reason to question this world and things people do and say, U assuming things is the issue, not religion ;)
I smoke, drink, have dirty dirty safe sex, and baby jesus supports me all the way.
excuse me Miss Lady..about this dirty dirty safe sex. How is this done. Could you please show some pictures of this, so we all will have a better understanding of how it is done..lol ( I'm married but wifey says I can always "just look" ):hug::clap:
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
I was educated in a catholic private french school, I don't attend church , I think with my brain and heart, I saved my retarted kitten from certain death, life is about living, baby jesus aint got nothing to do with this girl. Religion gave me a reason to question this world and things people do and say, U assuming things is the issue, not religion ;)
I smoke, drink, have dirty dirty safe sex, and baby jesus supports me all the way.
Je suis Quebecois. Ou ma grand-mère n'était pas que l'on m'a aussi fait un lavage de cerveau le catholique français bien que I doubt very very few peeps on here even believe their is a French Catholic Church lmao but nous sommes très fiers et entêtés, eh?

Yes, that was mostly translated by the world wide web :bigjoint:

I don't understand if you are not brainwashed by those crazies anymore why you are so adamant that it is a life before it is in my phone book?

Do you believe in war? capital punishment?

what about assisted suicide? that seems rather compassionate and christian, I don't normally ask Pro Lifer's that one because they are usually not compassionate nor christian but I love kitties and stopped a kitty abortion myself wow :oops:over 3 decades ago so you've got me curious.
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
I'm more of an agnostic...so my verdict on God is still out...but as a man any women who gets pregnant by me better know that she will be having that baby !!! She does not have to be around. I would raise her/him alone if needed, but you will not kill something that has my DNA. The best smell in the world is that of a clean happy baby.. fresh from a bath and powered up..Sorry can't and won't even try to understand someone saying "killing my child was the best and I have no regret."
Spoken like a real life man who will never ever have that choice! It is Hers so I do hope you tell them upfront before sliding that penis in!
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Spoken like a real life man who will never ever have that choice! It is Hers so I do hope you tell them upfront before sliding that penis in!
Luckily I have never had that problem. Most women would see me as a responsible man who can take of his own. One of the very reason why my wife said that she married me ( and she thought I had a cute butt ). Now if I was a loser, non-career driven, immature, lazy, abusive, selfish man then yes a women might not want to have my child..Hell I would question why she sleeping with me. I'm not that man and far from it. In my life I have heard "I want to have your baby" not " If I get pregnant I going to abort your baby".
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Luckily I have never had that problem. Most women would see me as a responsible man who can take of his own. One of the very reason why my wife said that she married me ( and she thought I had a cute butt ). Now if I was a loser, non-career driven, immature, lazy, abusive, selfish man then yes a women might not want to have my child..Hell I would question why she sleeping with me. I'm not that man and far from it. In my life I have heard "I want to have your baby" not " If I get pregnant I going to abort your baby".
I believe the world is overpopulated and not a very nice place. I feel it is pure selfishness to bring a child into the world instead of adopting those unwanted children already here. When they all have happy homes and Mother Earth is no longer pissed off at us, then you may smell your dna or wtf... There I said it!
 

april

Pickle Queen
Je suis Quebecois. Ou ma grand-mère n'était pas que l'on m'a aussi fait un lavage de cerveau le catholique français bien que I doubt very very few peeps on here even believe their is a French Catholic Church lmao but nous sommes très fiers et entêtés, eh?

Yes, that was mostly translated by the world wide web :bigjoint:

I don't understand if you are not brainwashed by those crazies anymore why you are so adamant that it is a life before it is in my phone book?

Do you believe in war? capital punishment?

what about assisted suicide? that seems rather compassionate and christian, I don't normally ask Pro Lifer's that one because they are usually not compassionate nor christian but I love kitties and stopped a kitty abortion myself wow :oops:over 3 decades ago so you've got me curious.
Je suis une acadienne,
non nos professeurs étaient tous des gens très jeunes. la religion n'a pas été forcé, mais a expliqué !!! Well done on the french!! ( I'll respond in english since most members will get annoyed if I do so in french lol and i used google since i don't have the accents on my keyboard lol, well not sure how to use them)



War yes, on certain levels it is needed but things get carried away, it's one thing to fight for freedom it's another to argue over egos and religion.


Capital punishment NO . Make them work their ass off thinking about their actions until they die, don't give them an easy escape from what they have done.

Assisted suicide YES!! I've seen people on their death bed, I don't want to be forced to live my last days is agony. Fuck If I can decide to put my cat down since he had severe cancer why can't a person decide if THEY WANT TO LIVE.

See abortion isn't a personal choice, the actual person being affected is not given the choice
;)
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
I believe the world is overpopulated and not a very nice place. I feel it is pure selfishness to bring a child into the world instead of adopting those unwanted children already here. When they all have happy homes and Mother Earth is no longer pissed off at us, then you may smell your dna or wtf... There I said it!
you seem very bitter.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Je suis une acadienne,
non nos professeurs étaient tous des gens très jeunes. la religion n'a pas été forcé, mais a expliqué !!! Well done on the french!! ( I'll respond in english since most members will get annoyed if I do so in french lol and i used google since i don't have the accents on my keyboard lol, well not sure how to use them)



War yes, on certain levels it is needed but things get carried away, it's one thing to fight for freedom it's another to argue over egos and religion.


Capital punishment NO . Make them work their ass off thinking about their actions until they die, don't give them an easy escape from what they have done.

Assisted suicide YES!! I've seen people on their death bed, I don't want to be forced to live my last days is agony. Fuck If I can decide to put my cat down since had severe cancer why can't a person decide if THEY WANT TO LIVE.

See abortion personal choice, the actual person being affected is not given the choice
;)
I used to be against Capital punishment, but now I struggle on what side I fall. People who hurt kids serve no place on this earth...you guys had a famous case with a person named Karla Homolka..She killed, raped, and tortured her own sister, as well as others. Chick only did 12 years for that.
 

april

Pickle Queen
Wait, April? You do know about the part where there was no baby Jesus?
Umm maybe u need to open UP a bible, Yes Jesus was a real person, his intelligence was beyond his time, miracles can be explained with simple facts, my religion teacher did a great job. Jesus did not cure the blind he sucked sand from their eyes, ya we now know what dessert blindness is. He did not seperate the sea, it becomes so full of salt at times that the water level gets very low and u can almost walk on it (sand bars help) sorry guess I need not explain how he did walk on water. Shall I go on ;) Wait the bug infestations, hmmm we get thos when large numbers migrate ( lotus was the culprite back then) Science, logic and common sense must be applied when ur thinking about religion . Hope and faith are what u get from trusting in religion.
 

april

Pickle Queen
I used to be against Capital punishment, but now I struggle on what side I fall. People who hurt kids serve no place on this earth...you guys had a famous case with a person named Karla Homolka..She killed, raped, and tortured her own sister, as well as others. Chick only did 12 years for that.
Trust me I know this case very well, I was young but very aware, it was all over the paper. Life in prison should have applied, but i'm not even gonna start on this one cause like most the outcome has disgusted me, ya she even had a baby ;)

Do on to them as they did onto others, I like justic. People sitting around living a comfy free lifestyle with TV, internet and even visits is not paying for ur actions. Jail should be hard labour, 12 hours a day, sleep on the floor, actualy punishment...
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Je suis une acadienne,
non nos professeurs étaient tous des gens très jeunes. la religion n'a pas été forcé, mais a expliqué !!! Well done on the french!! ( I'll respond in english since most members will get annoyed if I do so in french lol and i used google since i don't have the accents on my keyboard lol, well not sure how to use them)



War yes, on certain levels it is needed but things get carried away, it's one thing to fight for freedom it's another to argue over egos and religion.


Capital punishment NO . Make them work their ass off thinking about their actions until they die, don't give them an easy escape from what they have done.

Assisted suicide YES!! I've seen people on their death bed, I don't want to be forced to live my last days is agony. Fuck If I can decide to put my cat down since he had severe cancer why can't a person decide if THEY WANT TO LIVE.

See abortion isn't a personal choice, the actual person being affected is not given the choice
;)
Merci but it isn't much help on this coast as karma would have it as a wee lass (got Irish Catholic mixed in too- my childhood was hell!) I made fun of all my classmates for being foolish enough to take spanish... who iss ever going to need to speak spanish? :dunce:

I get ya, I think where we have the main, yet huge, difference in opinion is I don't believe there is actually a person in there yet, just cells that will grow to be a person and so I let whatever person, soul, what have you venture on to a much more welcoming womb... my therapist told me that some souls seek a woman having an abortion because what they need to learn will be accomplished in that short time and I find that to be closest to how I think it all goes down... I wouldn't call it a belief, but an idea (Dogma? Chris Rock- it is dangerous to have beliefs, people die for a belief...I have ideas)
 

april

Pickle Queen
Merci but it isn't much help on this coast as karma would have it as a wee lass (got Irish Catholic mixed in too- my childhood was hell!) I made fun of all my classmates for being foolish enough to take spanish... who iss ever going to need to speak spanish? :dunce:

I get ya, I think where we have the main, yet huge, difference in opinion is I don't believe there is actually a person in there yet, just cells that will grow to be a person and so I let whatever person, soul, what have you venture on to a much more welcoming womb... my therapist told me that some souls seek a woman having an abortion because what they need to learn will be accomplished in that short time and I find that to be closest to how I think it all goes down... I wouldn't call it a belief, but an idea (Dogma? Chris Rock- it is dangerous to have beliefs, people die for a belief...I have ideas)
I see what ur saying, I feel it's a person right at conception, but understanding what u went thru I respect the closure ur therapist has offered u. Very sweet really , almost made me tear up :(

If ur ok with ur choice that's what matters, my opinions are my own based on what has happened in my life, just as u ;)
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
you seem very bitter.
I am bitter that folks got their heads buried in the sand, assume the position for the 1% and pepper spray peaceful protesters on a college campus sitting down with their hands behind their backs. Yes. I am bitter that the cure for cancer gets people locked up away from their loved ones and I am extremely bitter that men like you think you have any right to say anything you don't know shit about. I mean, the last attempt was by a group of all male legislators! Not one woman until the Dems held an unofficial meeting... remember Rush calling that chick a whore and saying she used too much birth control like she popped a pill for every trist... I am bitter people fucking listen to that nut job... I need to smoke some mellow herb... brb
 

april

Pickle Queen
I am bitter that folks got their heads buried in the sand, assume the position for the 1% and pepper spray peaceful protesters on a college campus sitting down with their hands behind their backs. Yes. I am bitter that the cure for cancer gets people locked up away from their loved ones and I am extremely bitter that men like you think you have any right to say anything you don't know shit about. I mean, the last attempt was by a group of all male legislators! Not one woman until the Dems held an unofficial meeting... remember Rush calling that chick a whore and saying she used too much birth control like she popped a pill for every trist... I am bitter people fucking listen to that nut job... I need to smoke some mellow herb... brb
Your not bitter I like ur opinions, so many women don't have any unless it makes them look hot, awww group hug, muffin don't get so excited, ur words are very welcome here, it's fun to debate with people who use their brain :)
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
I see what ur saying, I feel it's a person right at conception, but understanding what u went thru I respect the closure ur therapist has offered u. Very sweet really , almost made me tear up :(

If ur ok with ur choice that's what matters, my opinions are my own based on what has happened in my life, just as u ;)
It's where I got the divine plan thing... that and a Carlin skit and what did make me feel better was during W's ignorant horrible ban on stem cell research when they asked me the last time if I was sure before I went under I asked if it was really going to stem cell research and Yes, I love my State!
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Your not bitter I like ur opinions, so many women don't have any unless it makes them look hot, awww group hug, muffin don't get so excited, ur words are very welcome here, it's fun to debate with people who use their brain :)
I guess the grass is greener on the other side of the River! I always thought you Canadian chicks had a much better head on your shoulders!

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