First it's Ann's Dressage Horse, Now it's a Damn Shirt!

[ink the world]

I always grin when I am called a "you lefties". As a centrist, I am despised by both extremes. cn

Amen and +rep from another moderate.

We are a dying breed in today's political climate.

 

[beenthere]

Why doesn't the right get it? Why do they never get it? The right is forever on their hunt for hypocrits but they limit their scans to things done by the left. No one cares, except for folk who operate on jealousy, what Ms. Romney wears or how much her husband makes, or how they spend their wealth.

What we all care about is their pretending to know the trials and difficulties of the common man in America. Romney can roll up his shirtsleeves and wear jeans all he wants to but every time he professes to undersand our current plight while talking about his wife's "couple of cadillacs", or his friends who "own nascar teams", or deducts more for his horse then most people make in a year, he shows himself as singularly unable to comprehend what we are having to contend with in this country. The man has never ever struggled in his life, he has never actually risked his lifestyle in order to form a company, he has never gambled it all and neither has his wife.

Why do you folk still believe any of this has anything to do with how much this guy is worth or where his wife purchases her shirts?

Oh I think the right gets it and I also think the average voter is starting to get it!

And it has nothing at all to do with "struggling" and we all know it.

John McCain grew up in a military family, but the left didn't focus on the financial struggles of military families, they found something else to go after so they attacked his military service and his age.

Rick Santorum wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, yet there was no praise for his middle class upbringing, just personal attacks on his religious beliefs.

It's nothing but a double standard for the liberals, it is perfectly fine for Michelle Obama to spend $7,000 on a jacket that looks like a tablecloth, but it's taboo if Ann Romney wear a $1,000 bird shirt.

It's perfectly acceptable for the First Lady to spend over $10million of tax payers money going on extravagant vacations, but owning two Cadillacs is "out of touch" with the American people!

I guess the same double standard could be said of Barack, he has no problem bragging about his early days of snorting coke and smoking weed, in fact he thought it was "cool" but if someone else is caught doing the same exact thing, his hypocritical ass is sending them to prison.

So, I think you're wrong, we certainly do get it!

 

[cannabineer]

Amen and +rep from another moderate.

We are a dying breed in today's political climate.

Thanks, inktheworld.
However, on a cheerier note - I think that there are more centrists than would appear. We're not mediagenic and generally don't get reported on. Centrism has an inglorious but secure future, lol. cn

 

[canndo]

Absolutely, my little list is just a basic recipe for the cake. I could have mentioned he possibly commuted voter fraud when he used his sons unfinished basement as his address and many other acts of his political bafoonery.

His tax returns are the icing on that cake

So, why are the Republicans self destructing again? What is it about them that they can't seem to mount a reasonable candidate? Bush the elder is the last one I can recall that had some humanity surrounding him. Sure there were more of those pesky "can't relate to us" problems but what is going on with them? I am quietly certain that his son (how troubling that we have to differenciate the two with letters) was placed in the presidency either by SCOTUS mandate or by vote manipulations.

Then we have Mccaine and Palin, who's idea was that? Now this guy, who has all of the problems that the GOP accused Kerry of having.

 

[chrishydro]

wayyyyyyyyy old news buddy.

ann romney's thousand dollar shirt that she never punched a clock a day in her life to earn is so one month ago.

When Obama was running for office in 08 his wife was caught having 700-800 dollar lunch. The stuff the media digs up makes me laugh. Should they all be shopping at Target and eating at Wendys? They are loaded, that is a good thing.

 

[ink the world]

I don't remember McCains military service being attacked at all. I do remember Kerry being "swiftboated" though.

Santorums religious beliefs are completely fair game. He brought his beliefs into play by making them the cornerstone of his policy. Santorum was attacked in a REPUBLICAN primary which he lost. I wasn't aware that you consider his opponents in that primary to be Leftists

Our last POTUS snorted blow, smoked pot and was arrested for an OUI in Kennebunk. Were you screaming the same bullshit a few years ago about him?


You're upset, and I understand. The GOP had a slam dunk in this upcoming election and you're blowing it. Again I'll say it:
Anne Coulter was right

Watch the lead Obama build up over the tax issue. The story of Mitt not paying taxes for 10 years can only be refuted by releasing the returns. If there isn't something to hide he'd release them and rid himself of the issue that's slowly killing his campaign. His inaction on that front can only lead people to believe the storyline. If he doesn't fix this it will be his fatal wound.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory sure is entertaining to watch though isn't it?

 

[canndo]

I always grin when I am called a "you lefties". As a centrist, I am despised by both extremes. cn

The ultimate fear of commitment. It is said that centrists have never had anything truely good or truely bad happen to them. My being an extreme leftist has me suspicious of you because centrists either don't really care or they are honestly open to all ideas. If you don't care, then what point is there in talking to you. If you are open to all ideas then why have you not embraced my way of thinking as it is the only one that actually reflects reality.

I don't imagine that the right views you in that same light do they?

One thing for sure though, I won't label you as a rightist simply because you may share some of the viewpoints of that side or disagree with me.

 

[canndo]

Oh I think the right gets it and I also think the average voter is starting to get it!

And it has nothing at all to do with "struggling" and we all know it.

John McCain grew up in a military family, but the left didn't focus on the financial struggles of military families, they found something else to go after so they attacked his military service and his age.

Rick Santorum wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, yet there was no praise for his middle class upbringing, just personal attacks on his religious beliefs.

It's nothing but a double standard for the liberals, it is perfectly fine for Michelle Obama to spend $7,000 on a jacket that looks like a tablecloth, but it's taboo if Ann Romney wear a $1,000 bird shirt.

It's perfectly acceptable for the First Lady to spend over $10million of tax payers money going on extravagant vacations, but owning two Cadillacs is "out of touch" with the American people!

I guess the same double standard could be said of Barack, he has no problem bragging about his early days of snorting coke and smoking weed, in fact he thought it was "cool" but if someone else is caught doing the same exact thing, his hypocritical ass is sending them to prison.

So, I think you're wrong, we certainly do get it!

Except that your post makes it abuntantly clear that.... you don't. What you get is your self reinforcing narative. You get to blame the left for not seeing things the way that self reinforcing narative dictates and you get to say pretty much the same thing you have said already in this thread.

that the left are hypocrits because they take issue with one person's display of wealth and not another, even though the two situations are different and the point has nothing to do with the display.

I am reminded of a president you folks once despised and now laud (strange that). "it wasn't the sex, it was the lie". You see, the left is as guilty of this sort of obtuseness as well.

The point was the lie, it was never about the sex, right?

 

[canndo]

Thanks, inktheworld.
However, on a cheerier note - I think that there are more centrists than would appear. We're not mediagenic and generally don't get reported on. Centrism has an inglorious but secure future, lol. cn

so... because you are a centrist, does that mean that you are an undecided voter?

 

[cannabineer]

The ultimate fear of commitment. It is said that centrists have never had anything truely good or truely bad happen to them. My being an extreme leftist has me suspicious of you because centrists either don't really care or they are honestly open to all ideas. If you don't care, then what point is there in talking to you. If you are open to all ideas then why have you not embraced my way of thinking as it is the only one that actually reflects reality.

I don't imagine that the right views you in that same light do they?

One thing for sure though, I won't label you as a rightist simply because you may share some of the viewpoints of that side or disagree with me.

It gets even worse, canndo. I am a Radical Centrist, advocating an overwhelming excess of moderation. I have memberships at Drizzlefront and What Progress. It's dizzyingly motionless here at the Extreme Center. cn

 

[canndo]

I don't remember McCains military service being attacked at all. I do remember Kerry being "swiftboated" though.

Santorums religious beliefs are completely fair game. He brought his beliefs into play by making them the cornerstone of his policy. Santorum was attacked in a REPUBLICAN primary which he lost. I wasn't aware that you consider his opponents in that primary to be Leftists

Our last POTUS snorted blow, smoked pot and was arrested for an OUI in Kennebunk. Were you screaming the same bullshit a few years ago about him?


You're upset, and I understand. The GOP had a slam dunk in this upcoming election and you're blowing it. Again I'll say it:
Anne Coulter was right

Watch the lead Obama build up over the tax issue. The story of Mitt not paying taxes for 10 years can only be refuted by releasing the returns. If there isn't something to hide he'd release them and rid himself of the issue that's slowly killing his campaign. His inaction on that front can only lead people to believe the storyline. If he doesn't fix this it will be his fatal wound.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory sure is entertaining to watch though isn't it?

The short of it is that Romney has lost control of the news....about Romney. So long as they don't have control they create informational vaccuums. That emptiness allows either the media or Obama to fill in the blanks with whatever they wish. anyone can say anything they want about what is on Romney's tax returns and no matter how outrageous, it will show up in the next day's news cycle.

I think Romney is trying to white knuckle the tax return thing, he is doing what Bush did over cocaine use, expecting it to go away if they hunker down.

I am not sure it will work.

 

[cannabineer]

so... because you are a centrist, does that mean that you are an undecided voter?

In theory yes, but Romney makes me itch. i'm voting my immune system. cn

 

[beenthere]

I don't remember McCains military service being attacked at all. I do remember Kerry being "swiftboated" though.

That's call selective memory!

Santorums religious beliefs are completely fair game. He brought his beliefs into play by making them the cornerstone of his policy. Santorum was attacked in a REPUBLICAN primary which he lost. I wasn't aware that you consider his opponents in that primary to be Leftists

I don't consider his republican opponents leftists, I'm talking about the MSM and the far left who relentlessly attacked his faith.

Our last POTUS snorted blow, smoked pot and was arrested for an OUI in Kennebunk. Were you screaming the same bullshit a few years ago about him?

Are you throwing shit up against the wall to see if it sticks, or do you have anything to backup the claim of George Bush smoking pot and snorting coke? And a drunk driving arrest when Bush was 30 is a lot different than Obama's hypocritical war on the very drugs he bragged about doing himself.

You're upset, and I understand. The GOP had a slam dunk in this upcoming election and you're blowing it. Again I'll say it:
Anne Coulter was right

Watch the lead Obama build up over the tax issue. The story of Mitt not paying taxes for 10 years can only be refuted by releasing the returns. If there isn't something to hide he'd release them and rid himself of the issue that's slowly killing his campaign. His inaction on that front can only lead people to believe the storyline. If he doesn't fix this it will be his fatal wound.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory sure is entertaining to watch though isn't it?

1.5% GDP growth, 8.2% unemployment, 15million more Americans on food stamps, $5trillion of new debt in less than four years, his idiotic attack on free enterprise and an incumbent president well under 50% in the polls! How the hell could I be upset? LOL

 

[canndo]

In theory yes, but Romney makes me itch. i'm voting my immune system. cn

What have we then Canna? You are a moderate who will be voting for a socialist? Hardly a moderate action. You had some value when you were an undecided and the moderates I am aware of take pride in their ambivalence. What about Romney has given you that itch?

 

[canndo]

That's call selective memory!






1.5% GDP growth, 8.2% unemployment, 15million more Americans on food stamps, $5trillion of new debt in less than four years, his idiotic attack on free enterprise and an incumbent president well under 50% in the polls! How the hell could I be upset? LOL

Party talking points - nothing but. So I am to be excused when I offer some of those talking points as well.

GDP may well have been much lower if we were to have assigned Mccain the task of correcting an economy that faltered because of the same practices that he (and Romney) touted - more of the same failed policies does not tend to correct anything at all.

When unemployment is high, people need to use food stamps - something that you folks don't believe in much anyway. New debt is the cost of attempting to correct previous errors combined with the ongoing expenditures the previous administration prompted.

It is interesting that you site his unpopularity as a reason for us to elect a different unpopular man but I am curious about what you say his "attacks on free enterprise" consist of.

 

[beenthere]

Party talking points - nothing but. So I am to be excused when I offer some of those talking points as well.

GDP may well have been much lower if we were to have assigned Mccain the task of correcting an economy that faltered because of the same practices that he (and Romney) touted - more of the same failed policies does not tend to correct anything at all.

When unemployment is high, people need to use food stamps - something that you folks don't believe in much anyway. New debt is the cost of attempting to correct previous errors combined with the ongoing expenditures the previous administration prompted.

It is interesting that you site his unpopularity as a reason for us to elect a different unpopular man but I am curious about what you say his "attacks on free enterprise" consist of.

A $1000 shirt is a talking point, a car elevator is a talking point, lies about a $77k deduction on a dressage horse is a talking point, even Michelle Obama's $7,000 tablecloth jacket is a talking point.

But a 1.5% in gdp growth and 8.2% unemployment is point everyone will be talking about in November and it's a disastrous reality!

 

[ink the world]

A $1000 shirt is a talking point, a car elevator is a talking point, lies about a $77k deduction on a dressage horse is a talking point, even Michelle Obama's $7,000 tablecloth jacket is a talking point.

But a 1.5% in gdp growth and 8.2% unemployment is point everyone will be talking about in November and it's a disastrous reality!

The reality is that your candidate supports a return to the same failed policies that got us here.

Seriously, you really think that the candidate that is mimicking the Bush tax, finance and foreign policy is the answer? Things are bad but getting better, why drag us backwards?

 

[spandy]

Last I checked, brokes can't successfully fund a campaign, so wtf do you want? Would you prefer these filthy rich people wore clothes from walmart while campaigining just to make you feel better?

 

[canndo]

A $1000 shirt is a talking point, a car elevator is a talking point, lies about a $77k deduction on a dressage horse is a talking point, even Michelle Obama's $7,000 tablecloth jacket is a talking point.

But a 1.5% in gdp growth and 8.2% unemployment is point everyone will be talking about in November and it's a disastrous reality!

No, the expensive shirts are not talking points except for the right, the right is the one making an issue not of the disparity but of the fact that the left is pointing out that disparity.

As I said and you did not address, Mccain likely would have been far less able, less agile and less reaonable in the face of the tremendous problems Obama found himself involved in. I am just as frustrated as you are at the state of the economy but you have yet to explain how Mccain would have done better. Those are the choices we had, Obama or Mccain. We think Obama did better than Mccain would have. We don't think Romney will do better, why do you think, given Romney's inability to lay out a plan, anyone should vote for him?

 

[canndo]

The reality is that your candidate supports a return to the same failed policies that got us here.

Seriously, you really think that the candidate that is mimicking the Bush tax, finance and foreign policy is the answer? Things are bad but getting better, why drag us backwards?

I try hard to remember that for a select few, things have gone quite nicely as a result of Bush's policies. It appears that Romney is running with that select few in mind.