5 plant scrog 4 - 6 pound harvest

[DelQ]

Hi Dr. I have a question or 2. This is my second grow, first one turned out excellent. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/524437-1st-ever-grow-1st-ever.html
My question is, can I post a pic on your thread? Second question (after you see pic.) Do I need a netting, like you have? I'm assuming the netting is to hold up buds when they get top heavy. My pic. is only 2 plants in a 4'x4' area, I veged for 8 weeks, started LST at about 6 weeks. They are now 2 weeks into flower. 4x4 area is packed. I didn't do too much LST on the first grow, But I did on these two and WOW!!!! Expecting about 1/2 pd dry off each plant. I'm estimating compared to what I got off the first 3 plants. I just let them grow straight up and got a 1/2 pd dry. I also used FF nuets on the first grow, and 100% distilled water. I also have a theory about big pots, I use 8 gal. potato bags. I didn't use a ph meter at all. Did use a soil tester and with 100% distilled it stayed at about 6.5 consistanly.
So far this grow I have used no nuets except FF oceans forest soil and Nirvana has these organic grow tabs. 1 type for veg, and another for flower. ALL ORGANIC. The nuets from my first grow are just sttin idle in a box. I'm going to try to go all the way with no nuets. I'm also using tap water now, I let it sit out for 48 hrs to rid of clorine. Then I put 2 tablespoons of ph down in it. Still no ph tester, but soil is staying around 6.5. Been keeping a close watch on leaves to make sure they don't need any nuets. Starting week 4 I will be adding blueberry juice to the watering.(sugar is good). I'm also trying another expermint with these. Hopefully come up with purple buds. Supposedly blueberry juice and taking temps down to about 50 to 55 degrees during dark cycle, will yeild purple buds. Only going to do this on 1 of them in case it fucks it up.

Bro. The DR, is a big inspiration for my grow to. I'm going to employ his method on my next grow. the strain I'm going to use is Papaya. My Papaya plant right now is A little over 4-4 but the thing is there is over 25 colas, and right now there as long as 20 inches, some of them are 25 inches long and that's only a 4 week veg.. from seed 7 weeks.. the reason I'm replying to your post is My plants get this growth over a inch a day all as been done with out any Nuts whatsoever.. Only FF mixed with my mountain top soil... That's it..

So there is no way I'm going to try to reinvent the wheel, I'm going to copy the DR method, with those 36 gal toats but my toats will have wheels on one side so if I have to move them.. also I will use my custom soil and Papaya and a custum strain that comes from here in Colorado called Magic mountain.. My area to flower will be 12-12 so I have room to move around.. The room will be lit with about 2500 watts.. I got my clones vegging now.. Here is a few Pics of the Magic mountain and Papaya that will be used to hopefully get the DR method up and going at 9200 ft elevation.

Its so cool of the DR to hook us up with such a good practical method to utilize.. thank again DR, hope your Mom recovers fully...


Man I'm hoping The docs method will only bring out the best in these strains...

 

[Shipman1]

Here is a pic. of the two I have,about 10 weeks old. They are about 3' tall. Was wondering if I should use a scrog net on top. Still a newb here so it might be called something else. 8 to 10 gal potato sacks,,,,lol. No nuets

 

[DelQ]

Here is a pic. of the two I have,about 10 weeks old. They are about 3' tall. Was wondering if I should use a scrog net on top. Still a newb here so it might be called something else. 8 to 10 gal potato sacks,,,,lol. No nuets


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Doc would know about the net.. Between you two, you guys could start your own dispensary. and still have some left over your personal use...

 

[DrGreener]

Bro. The DR, is a big inspiration for my grow to. I'm going to employ his method on my next grow. the strain I'm going to use is Papaya. My Papaya plant right now is A little over 4-4 but the thing is there is over 25 colas, and right now there as long as 20 inches, some of them are 25 inches long and that's only a 4 week veg.. from seed 7 weeks.. the reason I'm replying to your post is My plants get this growth over a inch a day all as been done with out any Nuts whatsoever.. Only FF mixed with my mountain top soil... That's it..

So there is no way I'm going to try to reinvent the wheel, I'm going to copy the DR method, with those 36 gal toats but my toats will have wheels on one side so if I have to move them.. also I will use my custom soil and Papaya and a custum strain that comes from here in Colorado called Magic mountain.. My area to flower will be 12-12 so I have room to move around.. The room will be lit with about 2500 watts.. I got my clones vegging now.. Here is a few Pics of the Magic mountain and Papaya that will be used to hopefully get the DR method up and going at 9200 ft elevation.

Its so cool of the DR to hook us up with such a good practical method to utilize.. thank again DR, hope your Mom recovers fully...


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Root mass = yield and yes you may spend a little more in soil but to gain 1/2 pound more is it worth it ??? well in my books it is .
you will see growing in larger totes how much better it really is. But how much more practical it is i mean bro its so much cleaner , Clone less produce more big deal you use little more soil for them totes no more then 60 - 70 plant grows barely making 6 pounds if there lucky overall food costs and lighting etc big deal clone 20 plants have 5 plants going into flower every 60 days telling you 5 - 6 pounds thats in 5 plants i used to grow stupid large SOG's 3 rooms 70 plant that's 210 plants now i grow 20 plants and better harvests with only 5 and having plants coming behind them it all comes down to time served 210 plants your going for a long time to butt fck motel 20 plants its less then right be smart be safe

 

[DrGreener]

Here is a pic. of the two I have,about 10 weeks old. They are about 3' tall. Was wondering if I should use a scrog net on top. Still a newb here so it might be called something else. 8 to 10 gal potato sacks,,,,lol. No nuets


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ok IMO they look awesome and yes without a doubt with so many top buds growing your going to eventually have problems holding them up once they start packing weight going to fold over like a umbrella in a hurricane )
so what i would do is start making some sort of scrog table please use twine or string if you like i can post how i made mine to detail
your plants are extremely bushy which causes concern to me your going to have to trim allot of lower under growth an get air moving in there once buds form they will start to sweat and mold will come its inevitable
might also be a good idea to transplant them into something larger prior to flowering mode which will make a huge difference in yield possibly totes if your 8 to 10 gallon go 20 gallon totes trust me this alone opens up space below your table to actually work.
Now you mention you have not given food well in flower your going to have to many scrogers fail to realize that when producing buds at the scale well above plants DNA genetics cause believe me if you left plant grow on its own and what you did there is no comparison in bud per plant production, so plants needs lots more food then normal specially to produce 100's of buds
Think of your plant like a top fuel funny car using fuel rather then a Hyundai Right either way both Del's and your grow are going to become amazing

PS : I feel honoured to have both you tag along and take some of my techniques , and ways, and implement into your garden i have grown trial an error for years to finally come up with the best possible way to get the best possible yuield with low count plants ,
I am not here to show boat but teach people better ways of growing

 

[dapio]

ok IMO they look awesome and yes without a doubt with so many top buds growing your going to eventually have problems holding them up once they start packing weight going to fold over like a umbrella in a hurricane )
so what i would do is start making some sort of scrog table please use twine or string if you like i can post how i made mine to detail
your plants are extremely bushy which causes concern to me your going to have to trim allot of lower under growth an get air moving in there once buds form they will start to sweat and mold will come its inevitable
might also be a good idea to transplant them into something larger prior to flowering mode which will make a huge difference in yield possibly totes if your 8 to 10 gallon go 20 gallon totes trust me this alone opens up space below your table to actually work.
Now you mention you have not given food well in flower your going to have to many scrogers fail to realize that when producing buds at the scale well above plants DNA genetics cause believe me if you left plant grow on its own and what you did there is no comparison in bud per plant production, so plants needs lots more food then normal specially to produce 100's of buds
Think of your plant like a top fuel funny car using fuel rather then a Hyundai Right either way both Del's and your grow are going to become amazing

PS : I feel honoured to have both you tag along and take some of my techniques , and ways, and implement into your garden i have grown trial an error for years to finally come up with the best possible way to get the best possible yuield with low count plants ,
I am not here to show boat but teach people better ways of growing

Well said. I believe in itself the main benefit of Scrog is the conservation of legality, while still bringing in considerable yields. This grow looks great I like how she is frosting up. I have always used 3-5 gallon pots on account that I am really only working in closet spaces. I do not use anything over a 250 now a days so any screen I build would not even fit above any container over 5 gallons. I have always acknowledged the "more root more fruit" saying, but have never wanted to go the extra mile.

Anyways, how tall is that screen Dr? do you crawl under to water? It looks like soil no? Do you think the extra time spent vegging to the screen to accommodate the large totes is anything to be noted? Regardless, this grow looks like a future victory in my book.

I'll be watching

 

[DrGreener]

Well said. I believe in itself the main benefit of Scrog is the conservation of legality, while still bringing in considerable yields. This grow looks great I like how she is frosting up. I have always used 3-5 gallon pots on account that I am really only working in closet spaces. I do not use anything over a 250 now a days so any screen I build would not even fit above any container over 5 gallons. I have always acknowledged the "more root more fruit" saying, but have never wanted to go the extra mile.

Anyways, how tall is that screen Dr? do you crawl under to water? It looks like soil no? Do you think the extra time spent vegging to the screen to accommodate the large totes is anything to be noted? Regardless, this grow looks like a future victory in my book.

I'll be watching

Thanks Dapio for popping in hereYes Soil Grown, i do most of my vegging under 136 watts of flourescents the initial time to train and fill up a 3 gallon pot does take little more time but by 7 weeks they should be ready for big tote transplant allowing another week or 2 to get settled into there new container then 1 week in hps room prior to flower 10 weeks around to make a plant worthy of a above average yield, with only 1 week of 1000 watts in that time prior to flower is cost savings
but like anything else you could make it into a perpetual grow style very easily just more plant count in veg and bigger flowering room to accommodate plants going in every 2 - 3 weeks
Those plants prior to placing under scrog can get up to 5 feet tall but when placing under scrog and spreading out you can easily lose 2 feet of height which i did leaving me not to much room under table may-be 18 - 20 " so not really crawling under table but getting down lol only time was the 2 weeks in flower when i actually had to crawl under table and trim prune lower growth of plant and every other week taking off little pop corn buds that like to still come back, that if left there. would give you nothing thanks again for swinging by I think my girls are going to pull a huge yield
PS i dont veg to screen i drop screen and in the week following flowering train plants weave etc, them into table

 

[johnnymcpotts]

I put a couple of girls in some totes and planned on throwing a screen over them. What do you think about 2 plants per tote scrog? Think I could cut my veg time doing it this way or that it will just be a tangled mess?

 

[ru4r34l]

This will be a tangled mess, 1 plant per tote; unfortunately your veg time will increase BUT SO WILL YOUR YIELD.

regards,

 

[DrGreener]

I put a couple of girls in some totes and planned on throwing a screen over them. What do you think about 2 plants per tote scrog? Think I could cut my veg time doing it this way or that it will just be a tangled mess?

Depending on size of tote if you plan on doing 2 plants in 1 tote you need some kind off seperating, divider ply wood etc,
Like ru4r says it would be a mess otherwise ,
i think your looking at min 8 - 10 weeks veg time to make a real nice bushy plant, personally its worth it veg longer ,
You will here well by the time your done i will be trimming my second harvest, lol you can very easily say well after your 3rd harvest you might come close to one of my harvests lol

 

[johnnymcpotts]

Thanks for the help and advise! I'm fully on board with the benefits of Scrog, I just need to know how to perfect it, that's why I'm here and luck to have support from all of you. Thanks!

 

[DrGreener]

Well today is start of week 6 woohoo feed day as well giving them there last shot of 1350 ppm will be slowly lowering ppm till the end finishing around 700 ppm posting pics shortly still on 3 day watering cycle feed 3 days later water postng pics shortly

 

[DrGreener]

ok here they are Start of week 6

 

[blaze1camp]

them ladies lookin lovely...

 

[DrGreener]

Hows everyone today

 

[SOMEBEECH]

Hows everyone today

Fine sir and you?Just built my tray yesterday,finally gonna give this a go.You my friend are DOING WURK.Been growing large plants,bored and seeing your grow and others,Gonna see if i can master this style.plus rep,Very nice job Dr.Subbed

 

[SOMEBEECH]

I had some Cindyx C-99 8yrs ago,is the ppp a power plant?Had so many different strains back then cant really remember about the C-99 ive had a heatstroke last summer and still a little foggy.Dont want to hijack do you care if ppl ask some ? here.

 

[SOMEBEECH]

can you imagine trimming 50+ buds like this one as well. quote,only imagine lol.But that would be alot of work and ooh and ahhing for me!

 

[johnnymcpotts]

Do you have any shots of her under the canapy? I'd love to see the structure under her skirt

 

[DrGreener]

Do you have any shots of her under the canapy? I'd love to see the structure under her skirt

I'll try to get some shots of under canopy tonight