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cirrus12

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Is there some part of transplanting from Soil to Hempy that is a quick fix for plant problems? I had 2 plants that I transplanted into hempy buckets that all there branches were drooping down. I transplanted them into their buckets and by the next morning all of their branches were standing right up. 2 Days later they were back down again. Something obviously happened during transplanting that gave them their second wind, Anyone have any ideas on what happened and what I can do as a long term fix??
 

bigd921

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I need some help I thnk I have a deficencey, I cant get a picture up yet lower leaves are turning yellow with brown spots, its working its way up the plant, stems are turning a reddish color ( not sure if that matters ) any Ideas I just did a flush with ph water should I up the nute dosage I am only at 1/4 strngth??
 

bigd921

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okI figured it out, I changed over to some soil nutes, and what I realized is that the soil nutes dont have a ph buffer!!!!!!!! So my ph was like 6.0 in my water after adding the nutes it was 6.8 I never checked it after the nutes before today silly me, the symptoms I have looked familiar the same as when I had ph problems in my dwc.... word to the wise make sure your nutes have a ph buffer, I was nutes from the Aerogarden before they had a buffer and I had no problem other than a little nute burn....
 

Parker

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Another option that I use with my Hempy setup is Turface. The media has the aeration qualities of perlite, and the water holding properties of vermiculite.
Hi Tanuvan,
I'm giving turface a try. I've had 2 successful grows using the Hempy buckets and am half way through another using the Lucas method with GH micro and bloom. The HB mix is 3 parts perlite to 1 part vermiculite. My res hole is 2 inches up from the bottom of an 11 gallon bucket. Pencil sized. Never had a problem with it clogging using this medium.
Always good to measure the run off.

Recently started a side by side of 4 Citral. Two in HBs using the 3 to 1 mix and 2 in HBs with half turface and half perlite.

Started in soil, then transplanted into 1 gallon hempys after they were an inch high. Nine days into it now. Using only ph 6.0 water so far. (Currently the turface HB get 60 percent of the water as the perlite/vermic HBs.) Roughly four days before going into flower they'll go into the 11 gallon buckets.
 

cirrus12

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I'm having some major PH issues. Whatever I pour into my buckets, it comes out at 8+. I've tried everything from thouroughly rinsing my perlite to pouring in straight hydrogen peroxide (PH around 4), and it always comes out at 8+....I don't know what to do, it's killing my plants. Someone help please.
 

Azgrow

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well lets first start with water supplies are you guys using tap water or r/o water.....i personally use only r/o as its base is zero an a ph at 6.5.....bigd sounds like you got nute burn vs ph issues it all could be related but what are the nute dose's you give an what strenth is the nutes npk value.....cirrus it sounds like you are haveing some troubles what kind of perlite are you using...what kind of nutes....how often do you feed an at what strength....imo i would get double the amount of strait r/o water an give your plants a flush....after you pour the last bit in test the ph again an see where it sits...by then it should have dropped to 6.5ish....also it takes time to correct problems so if you hitting your plants with a ton of shit everyday hoping for instant change your probly doing more harm then good....peace az
 

cirrus12

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well lets first start with water supplies are you guys using tap water or r/o water.....i personally use only r/o as its base is zero an a ph at 6.5.....bigd sounds like you got nute burn vs ph issues it all could be related but what are the nute dose's you give an what strenth is the nutes npk value.....cirrus it sounds like you are haveing some troubles what kind of perlite are you using...what kind of nutes....how often do you feed an at what strength....imo i would get double the amount of strait r/o water an give your plants a flush....after you pour the last bit in test the ph again an see where it sits...by then it should have dropped to 6.5ish....also it takes time to correct problems so if you hitting your plants with a ton of shit everyday hoping for instant change your probly doing more harm then good....peace az
I use tap water. I'm using MG Perlite, it's all I could find. No nutes right now, just water. I spent 10 min flushing with tap water, no change. It still kept reading at 8+.
 

Azgrow

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theres the problem...tap water....an perlite with nutes in it....its throwing the ph way off...you need to buy a few jugs of r/o water from the store...test their ph should be 6.5 then flush your plants with that....but first let the perlite dry a lil from the last flushing....peace az
 

White Widow Woman

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Cirrus - After you use the r/o water to get things under control --- try letting your tap water sit out in a bucket for a few days, this lets the chlorine dissipate. Then check the PH level of the water and it should be around 6.0-6.5 or even lower, but if it's not you may have to use a little PH down.

And if you can't get the big bags of perlite from Home Depot, your hydro store or a garden shop; then go to Walmart - they have the Schultz brand and it does not contain added nutrients.

I was able to get my hydro store to order some for me at $24.96 for 6 cu ft, but it took almost 2 weeks to come in - in the meanwhile I found another place with a pretty good deal at Perlite : Hydroponic Supplies and Greenhouse Equipment for the Professional Grower, by CropKing Inc. they are only $10.50 for 4 cu ft and it is horticultural grade with no nutrients. The shipping to my mail box in the states ended up being about $14.00 so I will only use them in a pinch.

Good luck with your grow...

:peace:
Widow
 

Damion5050

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I get my perlite at walmart, its not very expensive and like stated above it doesn't have any added nuts.. Just try any big shopping store that has a garden center in your area they are bound to have some even if they are little bags..
 

cirrus12

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theres the problem...tap water....an perlite with nutes in it....its throwing the ph way off...you need to buy a few jugs of r/o water from the store...test their ph should be 6.5 then flush your plants with that....but first let the perlite dry a lil from the last flushing....peace az
How is it throughing off the PH, I adjust it down to 6 before I use it.
 

Damion5050

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U need to go get schultz perlite the merical grow stuff has nutes in it, so it throws off the PH, as far as tap water I wouldn't use it unless u boil the water then let it still for a couple days...
 

cirrus12

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Cirrus - After you use the r/o water to get things under control --- try letting your tap water sit out in a bucket for a few days, this lets the chlorine dissipate. Then check the PH level of the water and it should be around 6.0-6.5 or even lower, but if it's not you may have to use a little PH down.

And if you can't get the big bags of perlite from Home Depot, your hydro store or a garden shop; then go to Walmart - they have the Schultz brand and it does not contain added nutrients.

I was able to get my hydro store to order some for me at $24.96 for 6 cu ft, but it took almost 2 weeks to come in - in the meanwhile I found another place with a pretty good deal at Perlite : Hydroponic Supplies and Greenhouse Equipment for the Professional Grower, by CropKing Inc. they are only $10.50 for 4 cu ft and it is horticultural grade with no nutrients. The shipping to my mail box in the states ended up being about $14.00 so I will only use them in a pinch.

Good luck with your grow...

:peace:
Widow
I have been letting all my water sit for a day before using it. Today was the only exception because I needed enough water to flush with.
 

cirrus12

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U need to go get schultz perlite the merical grow stuff has nutes in it, so it throws off the PH, as far as tap water I wouldn't use it unless u boil the water then let it still for a couple days...
I was hesitant to buy MG at first. I've read alot of posts from alot of people who just have nothing good to say about anything MG (I'm now one of them). But before I wound up buying it, I checked Lowes, I check Walmart, and I checked Home Depot. MG is all that's available around here. I've put in an order online for some perlite Perlite, 4 cu ft - Worm's Way .

What should I do untill I get my fert free perlite?
 

White Widow Woman

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I was hesitant to buy MG at first. I've read alot of posts from alot of people who just have nothing good to say about anything MG (I'm now one of them). But before I wound up buying it, I checked Lowes, I check Walmart, and I checked Home Depot. MG is all that's available around here. I've put in an order online for some perlite Perlite, 4 cu ft - Worm's Way .

What should I do untill I get my fert free perlite?
Holy Crap!

That perlite is $32.95!!! --- I sent you a link where it is was only $10.50 for the same size 4 cu ft bag...

Can you cancel the order? I mean why pay so much more for the same product???

Check this out! --- the last product on this page in a 4 cu ft bag of perlite for $10.50 --- Perlite : Hydroponic Supplies and Greenhouse Equipment for the Professional Grower, by CropKing Inc.


:peace:
Widow
 

GoodFriend

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when leaving the water sitting in a container for an extended period of time (24+ hours) make sure to have an air stone in there bubbling up the mix to keep the amount of DO (dissolved oxygen) high in the water... cuz the more dissolved oxygen the more there is availible to your roots and the more they thrive... just thought i'd add that in...
 

cirrus12

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Guess I'll be heading over to Walmart tomorrow to pick up a few gallons of distilled water.

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm sure I'll be back in the future with more questions.
 

Azgrow

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its ok...i just know its from the tap water..imo i only use r/o....also when having to use ph down alot it causes plants problems i'll look for some info on it...but useing to much ph down causes plant nute lockouts if im not mistaken...another reason r/o is better....an as lj pointed out bubbling the water is optimum to keep the o2 content rich...peace az
 
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