allen bud
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So the info is wronge???
12/12 from seed day 50....No Sex!!!!
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bigfraze27
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the red stems he found out were caused from a phosphorous def cause the red stem is slowly greenning up after adding sum fert with high pphosphorous but over the last thre or four days the yellowing bud ghrowth is still a problem?
ok im a little confused now....whos plant are we talking about..mine or the hi-jacker.....hey newbie thanks for hi-jacking my post....next time start your own post with your own topic...its pretty damn easy....you have made this whole 5 pages of info worthless to everyone but yourself....good job and thanks......
powerslide
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I was referencing your plant pics fry. Sorry the newb jacked ur post and everyone had a pissing contest about what a preflower is.
lepis22
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Without preflowering, how could be possibly, it would be in flowering stage (germination-vegatative-flowering)
Preflowering occurs in vegatative growth stage.
Yes, generally, it takes 3-4 weeks for preflowering. However, it totally depends on the strain and environmental conditions.
Fresh 2 De@th
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dude a plant flowers when it's ready, and it's obvious because it has yet to flower. environmental factors doesn't play a factor for a plant to show preflowers, it's a maturity thing.
Kalebaiden
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Wow, I just read this entire thread again and I gotta say...
You people are stupid! Not all mind you but enough to spread misinformation around as fact.
Stipules are stipules and the OP didn't have preflowers. Since pot is photo period dependent and some strains don't switch with 12/12, lowering the hours of light forces a plant to make the changes in body chemistry.
The Cervantes bible is just that, a fucking bible for pot growers. It's tried, tested and true. Every word of it. If you knock one of the most respected names in pot cultivation then you obviously know more about pot growing than nearly everyone here and you should leave so we are not overshadowed by your brilliance.
Saying a plant will flower when it's ready is like saying a oreo will eat itself in good time. A plant will flower when it's told to and it happend through photomanipulation (fuckin with the light hours for you s.m.r.t. folks.
This misinformation has to stop. Others will read these posts in the future and get all their facts wrong much like some of you have them wrong here.
@OP- if you need help message me through my inbox and i'll give you my thoughts, most of the info in this thread is worthless because of retarded noobs that think they know everything.
You people are stupid! Not all mind you but enough to spread misinformation around as fact.
Stipules are stipules and the OP didn't have preflowers. Since pot is photo period dependent and some strains don't switch with 12/12, lowering the hours of light forces a plant to make the changes in body chemistry.
The Cervantes bible is just that, a fucking bible for pot growers. It's tried, tested and true. Every word of it. If you knock one of the most respected names in pot cultivation then you obviously know more about pot growing than nearly everyone here and you should leave so we are not overshadowed by your brilliance.
Saying a plant will flower when it's ready is like saying a oreo will eat itself in good time. A plant will flower when it's told to and it happend through photomanipulation (fuckin with the light hours for you s.m.r.t. folks.
This misinformation has to stop. Others will read these posts in the future and get all their facts wrong much like some of you have them wrong here.
@OP- if you need help message me through my inbox and i'll give you my thoughts, most of the info in this thread is worthless because of retarded noobs that think they know everything.
Fresh 2 De@th
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look at this lame talking about spreading misinformation, your the prime example of it. if you look at the picture dude was referring to it clearly shows the stipules and pre-flowers and secondly a plant will flower and finish when it's ready (hence the thread), lame. you can start 12/12 from the very beginning and it still goes through a veg stage regardless of light manipulation, lame. i've seen threads where dudes veg for 4-5 weeks, flip and their plants take 3-4 weeks to bloom(op started 12/12 from start, so where is your proof of light manipulation?), whereas others start blooming 4-6 days into bloom. look at auto's, they will flower under any lighting schedule so where's your claim of light manipulation? i guess you told us something, lol. look at the threads where people are stating that certain strains or plants of theirs just won't finish after the switch, well at least in the time it was suppose to finish.
you sound good to a dummy or a person who doesn't have common sense. but what more could you expect from a dummy who only was taught and learn how to spread his dummy knowledge?
for the op i suggest you do some real research, fuck with some of these dummies are saying, they are only going to misdirect you. as far as plants goes, it's all a maturity thing, some mature faster than others (indica) and some take much longer to mature than others (sativa). with all the poli-hybrids and unstable x's out there, your best bet is to research on all boards, ask questions from knowledgeable people (very very few here on riu) and see what the general consensus is.
i'll admit your chances of learning here is slim to none, especially when you got dummies leading the group.
you sound good to a dummy or a person who doesn't have common sense. but what more could you expect from a dummy who only was taught and learn how to spread his dummy knowledge?
for the op i suggest you do some real research, fuck with some of these dummies are saying, they are only going to misdirect you. as far as plants goes, it's all a maturity thing, some mature faster than others (indica) and some take much longer to mature than others (sativa). with all the poli-hybrids and unstable x's out there, your best bet is to research on all boards, ask questions from knowledgeable people (very very few here on riu) and see what the general consensus is.
i'll admit your chances of learning here is slim to none, especially when you got dummies leading the group.
Fresh 2 De@th
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as stated it will show sex when its ready. some show sooner than others and just because you start 12/12 from seed doesn't mean it's going to start or show flowering at that point.
AWnox
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Just my two cents...
I have two CH9 right now from seed; a Green Bud and a Blue Lemon Thai, both 12/12 from seed. They started to show sign of sex yesterday and today the pistils were clearly visible with the naked eye @ day 19 from seed. Germinated in rockwool, hydroton medium in a 10 gal tote, DWC, micro-pore air stone (boss hog) and a 400W SHPS cool tube. PPM are @ 450 , pH 6.2.
Marijuana plants will be in indefinite vegetation stage if the light cycle doesn't change to 12/12 or has enough darkness to induce flowering. Just because she's good and ready to flower doesn't necessarily mean she is actually flowering at that point. You can have a plant showing pre-flowers and alternate nodes for weeks after she's ready and she won't flower until the light regime is changed.
I have two CH9 right now from seed; a Green Bud and a Blue Lemon Thai, both 12/12 from seed. They started to show sign of sex yesterday and today the pistils were clearly visible with the naked eye @ day 19 from seed. Germinated in rockwool, hydroton medium in a 10 gal tote, DWC, micro-pore air stone (boss hog) and a 400W SHPS cool tube. PPM are @ 450 , pH 6.2.
Marijuana plants will be in indefinite vegetation stage if the light cycle doesn't change to 12/12 or has enough darkness to induce flowering. Just because she's good and ready to flower doesn't necessarily mean she is actually flowering at that point. You can have a plant showing pre-flowers and alternate nodes for weeks after she's ready and she won't flower until the light regime is changed.
AWnox
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What happen to where you saw the once yesterday?? Is there nothing there now or something? They can't just disappear brother. Sometimes, there could be pistils on one side of the stem and not on the other, take a closer look.
Fresh 2 De@th
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im not sure what you mean, what you're implying is paradoxical. which one is it, flower when 12/12 is activated or flower when its ready?
you have instances where a plant will start to flower under a 18/6 photo period, that's why a lot of growers will leave their lights on 24/7 bloom and even sometimes that doesn't work (its called auto flowering). you have other instances, such as this one and many others, where 12/12 is initiated and it takes weeks sometimes to actually start flowering. basically all in a nut shell, it flowers when it's ready, it's a maturity thing as i stated.
@Fryguy: you're better off taken some nice long cuts and starting over. if that doesn't work trash it.
AWnox
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Those are not "instances" but rather types of Marijuana plants. "Auto-flowering" seeds will flower regardless of light regimen, that's why they can leave the lights on for as long as they'd like and will start to flower by themselves once they are mature enough. Regular (or Feminized) Marijuana seeds are photo-period bound, these seeds MUST have at least 12 hours of darkness to start flowering; they do not however need the full 12 hours to show sex and/or show pre-flowers, this just means the plant is mature enough to start flowering.
Fresh 2 De@th
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not even, should i dig up threads where plants of different varieties started flowering under 18/6 lighting? and i am not talking about auto flowering strains. would that be good enough for you?
here's one for you, http://www.420magazine.com/forums/frequently-asked-questions/167202-why-my-plants-auto-flowering.html, i'll post more for you later if need be.
here's one for you, http://www.420magazine.com/forums/frequently-asked-questions/167202-why-my-plants-auto-flowering.html, i'll post more for you later if need be.
AWnox
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The only way a regular Marijuana plant would flower even in a 18/6 light regimen would be if it had been crossed at some point with a ruderalis and then back crossed with a regular seed and some of the ruderalis traits (auto-flowering) became more marked in that specific phenotype. Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica, if they are pure breeds, will only flower based on the photo-period, not the age or maturity.
Some breeders use ruderalis in some cases to keep the plants shorter, specially if they are crossing a sativa and want to keep her short. It is possible that some phenotype might be enough on the ruderalis side to turn that "regular" seed in an auto-flower, it's not common but it can happen.
