Anyone remember which idiot said The massacre in colorado would of been less severe

[ChesusRice]

Why would UB and dookey need sock puppets? They're already mental sock puppets for the administration. Very much like a couple of Debbie Wasserman Schultz clones, bulging "crazy fucking bitch" eyes, bad hair and the inability to stop spouting the party talking points and incorrect facts and conclusions, no matter how much common sense you try to drill into them.

They are this forum's cross to bear.

Dealing with them is a little easier if you do what I do. Every time you read one of their posts, just picture Corky from Life Goes On, typing away at the keyboard, drooling and mouth breathing in mongoloid ecstasy.

I'M pretty sure your views may be more acceptable

























Over at Stormfront

 

[cannabineer]

I wonder who would be the forum's bear to cross ... cn

 

[Mindmelted]

If everyone was carrying a weapon?
Just remember
These are cops who train with weapons

Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers

By David Ariosto, CNN
updated 9:54 PM EDT, Sat August 25, 2012



New York (CNN) -- On a busy Friday morning in Manhattan, nine pedestrians suffered bullet or fragment wounds after police unleashed a hail of gunfire at a man wielding a .45 caliber pistol who had just killed a former co-worker.
The officers unloaded 16 rounds in the shadow of the Empire State Building at a disgruntled former apparel designer, killing him after he engaged in a gunbattle with police, authorities said.
Three passersby sustained direct gunshot wounds, while the remaining six were hit by fragments, according to New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. All injuries were caused by police, he said Saturday.

Um cops dont train that often with their guns dumbass.

Compare someone who shoots 3 times or more a week and i bet civillians would have not been hit!!!

 

[OGEvilgenius]

you're talking about your mentally handicapped GOP logic while chesus is sticking empirical evidence of men trained on how to use guns right in your face.

yawn. your conclusion was still retarded.

So your position is cops should no longer be allowed to carry guns?

 

[OGEvilgenius]

you'll have to point out where chesus insults people for wanting to be legally armed.

everything i got out of this suggests he is pointing out that a bunch of cowboys with guns would not have made the situation in that theater any better.

The situation probably wouldn't have happened in the first place.

 

[ChesusRice]

What if the original victim would've had a gun?

What if he got jumped like I did when I got shot?

 

[(818)MedicineMan]

Stopped reading at page 6.

The point of concealed carry is to protect yourself and your loved ones. Not to be a hero or cop. I can't say how having more guns would change the outcome other than if I am carrying mine I and my wife would be alive today. I would take cover, shield my wife and kill that fucker if came to it.

 

[canndo]

I think this is a very interesting supposition. Congrats Ches for seeing it - this is the sort of thing I love. The common statement from the right is that MORE guns are always better, that these horrible mass killings would not happen if someone somewhere had had a weapon.

I always tended to agree, in fact I think I agree even here - if one or two had firearms, the guts to use them and the accuracy needed then the shooter might have been neutralized. But I see the point, imagine a dozen conciencious citizens all wipping out their hand cannons and initiating an uncontroled shootout in a dark theater. Would this have probable resulted in more damage rather than less? Possibly.

 

[cannabineer]

I can imagine a dozen citizens whipping out guns ... but I cannot imagine more than one or two firing. It takes time to acquire the target. If there is a loud noise and the target staggers, any reasonable gunner will immediately reassess. Part of the calculus is "who or what is behind the target?" I simply don't see an Italian firing squad situation developing.

 

[ChesusRice]

I can imagine a dozen citizens whipping out guns ... but I cannot imagine more than one or two firing. It takes time to acquire the target. If there is a loud noise and the target staggers, any reasonable gunner will immediately reassess. Part of the calculus is "who or what is behind the target?" I simply don't see an Italian firing squad situation developing.

Where does reason come into play with tear gas, a darkened theater and muliple gunshots going off?

 

[canndo]

I can imagine a dozen citizens whipping out guns ... but I cannot imagine more than one or two firing. It takes time to acquire the target. If there is a loud noise and the target staggers, any reasonable gunner will immediately reassess. Part of the calculus is "who or what is behind the target?" I simply don't see an Italian firing squad situation developing.

I'm not sure, but I figure that there will be a cominations of zealots, fear, and heroics - everyone has seen the shootemup movies and might just want to get in on the action. There are a lot of people who thirst for the chance to use their weapon in a real life situation - we talk about them fairly frequently here in RUI/Politics - you know, the ones who peek out the front window hoping for those jackboots marching in file and bursting doors open in order to take their guns - those folk.

And of course there is the heat and confusion of the moment. No one can be coordinated even as much as the NYC police were supposed to have been. I figure if the shooter isn't brought down with the first vigilante bullet, a hail of them might follow.

 

[(818)MedicineMan]

Where does reason come into play with tear gas, a darkened theater and muliple gunshots going off?

If the gun carriers did what they are supposed to do in a situation like that there would not be a bunch of cowboys jumping up and shooting. They would be doing what I described, hopefully, and after the crazed gunman comes across the first person like me he's dead or down. Not much reason needed except don't be a hero or cop protect yourself and family. That would reduce the body count.

 

[ChesusRice]

I'm not sure, but I figure that there will be a cominations of zealots, fear, and heroics - everyone has seen the shootemup movies and might just want to get in on the action. There are a lot of people who thirst for the chance to use their weapon in a real life situation - we talk about them fairly frequently here in RUI/Politics - you know, the ones who peek out the front window hoping for those jackboots marching in file and bursting doors open in order to take their guns - those folk.

And of course there is the heat and confusion of the moment. No one can be coordinated even as much as the NYC police were supposed to have been. I figure if the shooter isn't brought down with the first vigilante bullet, a hail of them might follow.

you make it too complicated
I can break on into one word

adrenaline