Barack Obama Wants U.S. Economic Failure

[canndo]

He pays more in taxes than do, much more. He's the slacker? We paid for his charitable giving? I don't recall writing that check. Charity is a bad thing? " the middle class pays for CEOs and president's salaries as well. " So what? Who signs your paycheck? Management and production are co-dependent on each other.

Not as a percentage Red. Not as a percentage. In fact I pay more as a percentage than Romney does. If you wrote a check last April then you paid for his caritable giving. No one said it was a bad thing, I just don't like my money going to his charity.
the middle class pays for CEO's salaries twice. Lots of people sign my "paychecks" Red. If a company gets a tax break in order to pay the CEO, but it does not get one for paying it's rank and file employees - AND that Corporation pays no Fed tax, then you and I are paying for that CEO's inflated salary.

 

[althor]

If the government would show any indication that it would not just spend more you might have an argument.

Obama promised to cut the deficit in HALF during his first term in office. Yet another promise that was broken. How in the hell can you keep asking people for more when there is no indication that the government is even going to TRY to spend less?

Obama's budget? Trillions of dollars in debt every year to infinity....

Romney Ryan's budget? Debt for the next several decades before reaching some mythical balance point....

Seriously?? I MEAN FUCKING SERIOUSLY????

Our mutual debt is 16 trillion dollars. How high is it going to have to get before you start asking for the politicians to stop?

I have been asking them to stop for many years now.

 

[NLXSK1]

I didn't say anything about his being a money grubber, nor did I mention his grandmother.

He donated millions and took his tax deductions. Those deductions would not have occured had he not contributed so because we receive less money from him, we have to pay more, in so doing we are all "donating" to the mormon church.

He "went in and saved the Olympics" by getting money from the government - so in effect, the government saved the olympics with his help.

Using your logic, the poor are not contributing their fair share to taxes and thus we should raise the rates on them. Afterall, if they made more money we could tax them more. Selfish bastards...

 

[canndo]

No we don't. Where are you charged for someone others charity beside the government's.

So long as the giver gets a deduction, that is money the government can use to pay down the debt. So long as there is a debt then we have to take up the slack.

 

[canndo]

Using your logic, the poor are not contributing their fair share to taxes and thus we should raise the rates on them. Afterall, if they made more money we could tax them more. Selfish bastards...

Not quite, but close - no, they are not taking up the slack - so far as their "fair share" goes, that depends on what we all agree is "fair". If I have to pay 10 percent on the last 100 dollars I own, is that the same as asking someone to pay 10 percent on their million dollars?

 

[Krayven Sumhead]

Funny how Mitt and Pauly-boy are will to eliminate the tax deduction for mortgage interest, educational loans, medical expenses, and the list goes on.

Neither Mitt nor Ryan even mentions eliminating the $70,000 deduction Mitt takes on his dancing horse, Rafalca.

At least that was in 2011.

Now, I know dancing horses are important to most common people and I believe every commonner should own one.

But a $70,000 deduction for Rafalca and no mortgage interest deduction for me???? Or medical cost deduction??

Who knows how much of a deduction he took previous to 2011??

For his dancing horse or his car elevator(s).

Yup, Mitt, you're just a good ole boy!!!

 

[Mindmelted]

You sound jealous.......

 

[Krayven Sumhead]

That's not the point.

 

[Red1966]

Not as a percentage Red. Not as a percentage.

So what? You get taxed the same percentage for capital gains.

In fact I pay more as a percentage than Romney does.

Not on capital gains you don't.

If you wrote a check last April then you paid for his caritable giving.

Not his charitable giving. The governments.

No one said it was a bad thing, I just don't like my money going to his charity.

It hasn't. You didn't give money to the Mormons.

the middle class pays for CEO's salaries twice. Lots of people sign my "paychecks" Red. If a company gets a tax break in order to pay the CEO, but it does not get one for paying it's rank and file employees

It does get one for paying it's rank and file employees

- AND that Corporation pays no Fed tax,

"Corporations" DO pay tax.

then you and I are paying for that CEO's inflated salary.

CEO's salary come from profits, not us. Nothing you posted was true.

 

[canndo]

You sound jealous.......

First there is "are you calling me racist for my saing that Obama sucks"?
The second is "you are jealous" when we talk about the disparity between the rich and the middle class or the poor in this country.


I don't know about anyone else but I believe that had I made it my goal in life to become rich I might have succeded. My goals were different and so I am not jealous of any fabulously rich person. I wish I had his money and the power that money would bring but I am not now, nor was I ever interested in the sacrifices it would have taken for me to be like him.

I wonder what this is about when the right claims that when we speak poorly about the behavior of the rich we must really be jealous. When you speak poorly about Obama, does that mean that you are jealous?

 

[Red1966]

So long as the giver gets a deduction, that is money the government can use to pay down the debt. So long as there is a debt then we have to take up the slack.

It's not the governments money. They even say so. He's paying much more than you. He's taking up your slack. There is neither truth nor logic in your posts.

 

[canndo]

So what? You get taxed the same percentage for capital gains. Not on capital gains you don't. Not his charitable giving. The governments. It hasn't. You didn't give money to the Mormons. It does get one for paying it's rank and file employees "Corporations" DO pay tax. CEO's salary come from profits, not us. Nothing you posted was true.

Every bit of it is true Red, must as you are unwilling to accept it.

I haven't the resources to get the same break on capital gains he does. Yes, we do subsidize his charitable giving because we have to take up the slack for the money he deducts from his giving to the mormon church. What tax breaks do businesses get for paying their employees? Corporations pay taxes?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/12/us-usa-taxes-corporations-idUSN1249465620080812

 

[beenthere]

The mormon church is going to go directly to the government for help? In what world would that be beenthere?

No, but poor people who happen to be LDS would my friend, do you think Mormons are exempt from welfare? LOL
Besides, the Mormon church's annual humanitarian aid tops $48,000,000, how much do you think the wealthy left from Hollywood contribute?

 

[beenthere]

Every bit of it is true Red, must as you are unwilling to accept it.

I haven't the resources to get the same break on capital gains he does. Yes, we do subsidize his charitable giving because we have to take up the slack for the money he deducts from his giving to the mormon church. What tax breaks do businesses get for paying their employees? Corporations pay taxes?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/12/us-usa-taxes-corporations-idUSN1249465620080812

I'm tired of you using the word subsidize canndo, it's a disingenuous term and you know it.
The government or the tax payers do not subsidize Mitt Romneys charitable contributions, that's a fact.

 

[NLXSK1]

Not as a percentage Red. Not as a percentage. In fact I pay more as a percentage than Romney does. If you wrote a check last April then you paid for his caritable giving. No one said it was a bad thing, I just don't like my money going to his charity.
the middle class pays for CEO's salaries twice. Lots of people sign my "paychecks" Red. If a company gets a tax break in order to pay the CEO, but it does not get one for paying it's rank and file employees - AND that Corporation pays no Fed tax, then you and I are paying for that CEO's inflated salary.

And those CEO's sign millions upon millions of paychecks directly to the middle class... Who is fooling who here?

 

[ChesusRice]

And those CEO's sign millions upon millions of paychecks directly to the middle class... Who is fooling who here?

CEOs that spend money from Publically stock owned companies?

 

[UncleBuck]

The debt keeps growing due to the deficit. This year it will be over a trillion dollars, next year the same under Obama.

whereas under republicans, it goes up and up and up every year instead of holding steady or dropping, like with clinton.

 

[UncleBuck]

He pays more in taxes than you do, much more.

we don't know that because he hasn't released returns for any year that he wasn't running.

 

[Mindmelted]

whereas under republicans, it goes up and up and up every year instead of holding steady or dropping, like with clinton.

And what has Oduma added since his tenor as president.
Dont forget the obamacare nightmare coming,stealing money from medicare to fund his fucking stupid healthcare plan.
Now that make a lot of fucking sense now does it not !!!!!

So the de

 

[UncleBuck]

And what has Oduma added since his tenor as president.
Dont forget the obamacare nightmare coming,stealing money from medicare to fund his fucking stupid healthcare plan.
Now that make a lot of fucking sense now does it not !!!!!

So the de

retarded illegal immigrant children speak the language better than you do.

taking $716b from medicare has been debunked by all sides of the spectrum. you're only exposing your ignorance by repeating that lie.

obama has not increased the deficit as president anything like shrub did. shrub blew that motherfucker up.

i remember how angry righties were about that. as i recall, they were soooooooo angry that they said "deficits don't matter".

true story.