Barack Obama Wants U.S. Economic Failure

[Krayven Sumhead]

Uh-oh

Looks like the Republican strategy to disinfrachise voters in some swing states is failing.................

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gOQ4Wd2GpIs0NBQ6MShmz0tupomQ?docId=dd6841539dc741cab5b3d217fc385955

 

[Krayven Sumhead]

And even you Republicans gotta admit how funny it was to see the "~~"STAR"~~ of the Republican Party upstaged by a senile looking old man talking to an empty chair!!!


BwwwwwwwwwwwwwwHahahahahahahaha

 

[cannabineer]

Hack? No Beenthere. What you are observing is my disgust for the GOP and their willingness to lie. Furthermore you are seeing my questions to you. how can you accept what they are doing? Where is your outrage? Do you not begin to believe that if they are playing such wholesale games with the truth, that maybe their candidate is not worthy of leading this country?

I really would like more from you than ducking and ignoring, I really would like to know your true emotions regarding this sort of behavior from your candidate.


Hack? no, just shock and dismay.

Canndo, the one thing you seek is the one thing beenthere has decided not to provide: substantive discussion of issues. He's content to be a sniper and occasionally lord it over the Libtards and call them "Sparky".
And he has admitted that he is unwilling to even consider inconvenient facts.
You're dealing with someone who loves to stomp sand castles, but doesn't build them. Imo. cn

 

[beenthere]

And even you Republicans gotta admit how funny it was to see the "STAR" of the Republican Party upstaged by a senile looking old man talking to an empty chair!!!
BwwwwwwwwwwwwwwHahahahahahahaha

I remember way back saying stupid shit just like this, but in all fairness, being cooped up in my bedroom at my mom and dads house was a bitch!

 

[canndo]

Uh-oh

Looks like the Republican strategy to disinfrachise voters in some swing states is failing.................

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gOQ4Wd2GpIs0NBQ6MShmz0tupomQ?docId=dd6841539dc741cab5b3d217fc385955

Not enough, Voter Rights Act Section - 5 Preclearance is not applied equaly to all states and because of that some swing states this year do not come under its perview.

 

[Systema]

Politic is about lie . Bank is about politic. Policitician should be honest and say : Thanks you for choosing me.. Now i have to give my balls to thoses big industries!

 

[canndo]

Canndo, the one thing you seek is the one thing beenthere has decided not to provide: substantive discussion of issues. He's content to be a sniper and occasionally lord it over the Libtards and call them "Sparky".
And he has admitted that he is unwilling to even consider inconvenient facts.
You're dealing with someone who loves to stomp sand castles, but doesn't build them. Imo. cn

He is far from alone Canna - I saw some brave reporters attempting to hold GOP operatives feet to the fire over these things and they come up with everything but a direct confronatation with the facts. My favorite is the gist that the speeches were, after all, a part of a convention (as though convention speeches are exempt from the expectation of honesty), or, Ryan was simply demonstrating principles and in that case facts are irrelvent.

Beenthere cannot organize his belief system and his morals around the antics of the GOP and so he will compartmentalize and ignore the facts. Now I am not one to criticize the moral leanings of others but I am force to point this out.

Any conservative places a high value on his immutable and absolute morality. These people hold what they believe to be high moral standards and yet they will not even denounce Ryan's statements. How moral can they actually claim to be then?


Beenthere? I believe you to be a moral person. If you are a moral person, how are you able to not only accept but embrace Ryan's and his campaign's statements?

 

[canndo]

Politic is about lie . Bank is about politic. Policitician should be honest and say : Thanks you for choosing me.. Now i have to give my balls to thoses big industries!

The right is depending upon the majority belieiving such a thing. Well all politicians lie so what is the difference? And so the low information voter will be subject to the untruth.

There is a funamental difference between a campaign promise and an accusatory lie. there is a funamental difference between even purposefuly distorted representations and outright fabrications. When a politican claims that the result of a certain policy are this, or that even when we can project it to be otherwise, this is still not a fabrication. Differences of opinion are not lies. Campaign rehtoric are not lies, they are simply great liberties taken with the truth.

An outright fabrication is something that the right has flirted with for many years but in this election not only are they perpetrating it but they are telling us that this is what they intend to do.


Anyone who does not see this as a very real danger to our Republic hasn't been watching.

 

[Krayven Sumhead]

I remember way back saying stupid shit just like this, but in all fairness, being cooped up in my bedroom at my mom and dads house was a bitch!

What a difference a day makes, huh.

Uh-helk, Uh-helk.

 

[cannabineer]

you better vote for fucking ralph nader or something cause if you vote for romney your a fuckin idiot

Does Ralph have a say in this fucking? Or are the needs of the many lined up behind the knees of the one? This could be unsafe at any speed. cn

 

[beenthere]

There is a funamental difference between a campaign promise and an accusatory lie. there is a funamental difference between even purposefuly distorted representations and outright fabrications.

You bet your ass there is. There is nothing worse in my book than a candidate to make dishonest promises to the American people for votes!

 

[cannabineer]

You bet your ass there is. There is nothing worse in my book than a candidate to make dishonest promises to the American people for votes!

I know of something worse. That is to misrepresent something that happened and can be checked. cn

 

[UncleBuck]

You bet your ass there is. There is nothing worse in my book than a candidate to make dishonest promises to the American people for votes!

like "i'll create 12 million new jobs" and then giving no details whatsoever on how he would create 12 million new jobs, the amount of jobs we are expected to add in the next 4 years anyway?

 

[beenthere]

I know of something worse. That is to misrepresent something that happened and can be checked. cn

But it's not as bad as lying to the American people to get elected.
Because once the liar gets in office, we can't do a thing for four years!

 

[UncleBuck]

There is nothing worse in my book than a candidate to make dishonest promises to the American people for votes!

But it's not as bad as lying to the American people to get elected.

get your fucking story straight and stop chasing your tail.

 

[cannabineer]

But it's not as bad as lying to the American people to get elected.
Because once the liar gets in office, we can't do a thing for four years!

We all know the value of a campaign promise. Has anybody's candidate kept them, even when challenged to read his lips? Imo you're erecting a straw man, trying to give abandoned campaign promises a moral heft they never had.
Otoh, lying about past deeds and acts is something in which a candidate can be trapped. What i find remarkable and offensive is the propagation and multiplication of lies ... and their embrace by partisans ... in a successful bid to make the trap, and the lies that caused it, fade from significance through simple neglect and a closing of ears and minds. The media ... ours, theirs, anyone's ... have been enthusiastically participating in this race to the bottom. cn

 

[beenthere]

We all know the value of a campaign promise. Has anybody's candidate kept them, even when challenged to read his lips? Imo you're erecting a straw man, trying to give abandoned campaign promises a moral heft they never had.
Otoh, lying about past deeds and acts is something in which a candidate can be trapped. What i find remarkable and offensive is the propagation and multiplication of lies ... and their embrace by partisans ... in a successful bid to make the trap, and the lies that caused it, fade from significance through simple neglect and a closing of ears and minds. The media ... ours, theirs, anyone's ... have been enthusiastically participating in this race to the bottom. cn

My goodness canndo, would you feel better if I wasted my time posting Obama's outright lies to make it a fair playing field? Strawman! LOL

 

[cannabineer]

My goodness canndo, would you feel better if I wasted my time posting Obama's outright lies to make it a fair playing field? Strawman! LOL

Wrong cann ... but which library would you be using? Remember that on a neighboring thread you proclaimed you would not be bound by facts. cn

 

[UncleBuck]

Learn how to fucking read ya little sissy boy, I made the same point.

i do know how to read, you elephant jism eater.

in post 262, canndo states: There is a fundamental difference between a campaign promise and an accusatory lie.

in post 267, you concur and then add: You bet your ass there is. There is nothing worse in my book than a candidate to make dishonest promises

in post 268, cannabineer interjects, saying that a verifiable lie is worse: I know of something worse. That is to misrepresent something that happened and can be checked.

in post 270, you try sleight of hand to change from your original position of 'bad promise' is worse to 'lie' is worse: But it's not as bad as lying to the American people

you really thought no one would notice you try to make that switch, did you?

your presence here is an insult to our intelligence and you have sex with koalas.

 

[cannabineer]

Buck, why did you elide beenthere's "to be elected"? It gave continuity to his claim. No fair. cn