Huel Perkins
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GH makes their own tea called Flora Blend. Go get some if you think it will help...
General Organics vs General Hydroponics
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Aerokingcola
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Flora nova is my #1 recommended nutrient for every hydro system
Leonardo de Garden
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I want to get some and try it, I want to give the Maxi powders a shot too, but I don't want to just do GH stuff, so what other companies would people like to see run? Bonus points if someone has an in with a company willing to kick down enough samples for it.
kushnotbush
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I would like to see a flora line test versus a straight KISS maxibloom plant. I think that might be a pretty good comparison if your up for it. Thanks for posting this up, I am waiting to see your results.
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superstoner1
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teas are a bitch. pondzyme is great.
Leonardo de Garden
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Pretty sure I'm going to try Maxi and Nova from them. Maybe a different organic like Earth Juice with and without beneficials. Is going to in part depend on what I get a hold of between now and then.
I have a couple more in growth right now, clones that have been fed the same thing so far (Flora), they are all doing about the same. I want to do a with/without on a PK flowering boost. I know GH has KoolBloom, so I could just go with that, but since I'd like to see as much difference as possible, who makes the uber mega cool nifitiest wonder blowjob in a bottle boost? I don't mean necessarily the most expensive. Just which one am I going to hear the least amount of "but if you'd used XXX it would have made a lot more difference" about?
Huel Perkins
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I see you wasting money in your future... we've all done it.
OGEvilgenius
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In fairness to the organic, the little microbes do take time to grow.
I don't think people can really tell the difference if shit is grown properly (not burnt!) so I'm curious to see how it plays out. I smoke organic buds at times that are harsh with black ash and hydro that are clean with white ash. I really don't think it matters if done right. I might say that the organic might do a better job giving the plant exactly what it needs when it needs it, but it won't push the plant to it's maximum either I don't think. Perhaps that is what contributes to the taste difference.
Leonardo de Garden
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Ha, good point, but I prefer to think of it as tuition. Bet I wind up learning a thing or two before I'm done.
2easy
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i have grown with flora nova a few times. i have gone back to the 3 part stuff now though and my results are just as good i reckon. im going to be switching to maxi line soon and see how that goes.
i just run base nutes with a bennie tea i make myself which has floralicious plus in it alongside some alfalfa meal. then in flower i add koolbloom. works a treat.
im sure the maxi series will perform. in fact i have a strong feeling that they are going to outperform the others. just a hunch
i just run base nutes with a bennie tea i make myself which has floralicious plus in it alongside some alfalfa meal. then in flower i add koolbloom. works a treat.
im sure the maxi series will perform. in fact i have a strong feeling that they are going to outperform the others. just a hunch
Huel Perkins
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Good attitude to have, keep doing side by side tests with products and you'll learn a lot. Lots of people (myself included) have just come to the conclusion that 9 out of 10 additives don't make a noticeable difference.
Leonardo de Garden
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Fair enough, but I want to know which 9 don't, and why the one that does works. I tend to have opinions, and I prefer it when those opinions tend to be right, so I'm constantly trying to improve them.
GreenThumbSucker
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Learn to grow with fertilizer only. Once you have a few crops under your belt, then try some of the exotic supplements. You will notice, as I did, that there is no difference. In the end you will save a lot of money and concentrate on what really matters.
Leonardo de Garden
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I know what you mean about the bells and whistles not being right for a new gardener. I am a big fan of the "it's a weed get out of the way and it will grow" philosophy myself, but please understand, I have a curiosity beyond most cats, I always have to know that one step past what I do now.
By the way, I myself am not a new gardener. I'm not going to brag, because I'm still new here on this forum, and where I come from you don't go to someone else's house and start shooting your mouth off about yourself, but it would be fair to claim I have skills; my grow-fu is better than average.
I'm not looking to save myself money, I'm looking for answers so I can help spread them around.
johnjeni33
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I know what you mean about the bells and whistles not being right for a new gardener. I am a big fan of the "it's a weed get out of the way and it will grow" philosophy myself, but please understand, I have a curiosity beyond most cats, I always have to know that one step past what I do now.By the way, I myself am not a new gardener. I'm not going to brag, because I'm still new here on this forum, and where I come from you don't go to someone else's house and start shooting your mouth off about yourself, but yeah, I have skills.
squarepush3r
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fairly sure organics shouldn't be used in DWC type systems or water farm. Organics need a medium, like soil or coco even, just pure dwc i think surely they will underperform
Leonardo de Garden
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I've heard the same thing, and often. However, I will say that so far the organic plant shows no obvious signs of deficiency, and is so far appears to be healthy and well.
Stay tuned and maybe your "fairly sure" will wind up either "pretty sure" or "not so sure".
Huel Perkins
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The reason organics aren't recommended in hydro has nothing to do with deficiencies. It's a because organic matter has a tendency to rot in your reservoir causing plumbing clogs, air stones to clog and bacteria to grow like crazy.
Leonardo de Garden
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I've heard the argument before that organics out of soil won't develop the proper bacteria to break down and become available to the plants, which is a common misconception. If that were true, then for example this plant would have obvious deficiencies by now.
I agree that organics are thicker and are not as well suited for systems that require the nutrient solution to be run through a pump or small opening, but they can be used in some other hydro systems. Not something I'd recommend to someone just starting out, but it can be done successfully.
Bacteria in itself isn't a bad thing, thats what converts the organic ammonium first into nitrites and then into nitrates which the plant can use. It is having the wrong bacteria because your environment is wrong that causes trouble. One of the "shortcuts" chemicals take advantage of, is that they can deliver nitrates to the plant faster, since they skip at least parts of this process. That's why chemical nutrients like potassium nitrate are so popular, they are "pre-chewed" as far as the plant is concerned.
Dalek Supreme
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Awesome side by side and + reps for you keeping the test baseline.