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[ink the world]

Odd, your post contradicts reality; imagine that

I'm a caregiver, they aren't coming for me. My friend just had his garden ripped, called the police and guess what?

They launched an investigation and gave hum advice for securing his garden. No arrest, no hassle. My oldest sons best friends dad is a Sgt. w/ the local PD. They were here over the holiday for a cookout, he enjoyed both gardens inside and out. Though my air cooled hoods were "neat" and was in awe of the size of the outdoor plants.

He really enjoyed the fresh chicken and produce too.

 

[brotherjericho]

Definitely don't get jobs. Despite every month for the past 2 and a half years we've added jobs not lost.

When you're at the bottom there typically is no way but up.

 

[ChesusRice]

When you're at the bottom there typically is no way but up.

We never reached bottom. Google great depression

 

[mr2shim]

When you're at the bottom there typically is no way but up.

Never hear of great depression? Pretty sure that was bottom.

 

[beenthere]

When you're at the bottom there typically is no way but up.

Very true and we hit bottom in June 2009.
The problem is, the polices set forth during this recession are prolonging economic recovery, very reminiscent of the days Roosevelt's New Deal prolonged the recovery of the Great Depression.

Claiming our recent recession never hit bottom by gauging it with the Great Depression is laughable, a depression is gauged more on it's length that it's severity.

 

[mr2shim]

Very true and we hit bottom in June 2009.
The problem is, the polices set forth during this recession are prolonging economic recovery, very reminiscent of the days Roosevelt's New Deal prolonged the recovery of the Great Depression.

Claiming our recent recession never hit bottom by gauging it with the Great Depression is laughable, a depression is gauged more on it's length that it's severity.

Ok, let's pretend for a minute the great depression wasn't bottom. Are we better off today than when Obama took office as far as job creation vs losing jobs. Meaning, are we gaining more jobs in 2012 than we were 2009? How do you define progress? Isn't it a forward movement? Wouldn't you consider the fact that we've been gaining jobs for 2 and a half years forward movement?

 

[ginjawarrior]

Very true and we hit bottom in June 2009.
The problem is, the polices set forth during this recession are prolonging economic recovery, very reminiscent of the days Roosevelt's New Deal prolonged the recovery of the Great Depression.

Claiming our recent recession never hit bottom by gauging it with the Great Depression is laughable, a depression is gauged more on it's length that it's severity.

There's a difference between "hitting bottom" and "bottoming out" as in "it bottomed out in 2009 but luckily we didn't hit bottom"

 

[althor]

Ok, let's pretend for a minute the great depression wasn't bottom. Are we better off today than when Obama took office as far as job creation vs losing jobs. Meaning, are we gaining more jobs in 2012 than we were 2009? How do you define progress? Isn't it a forward movement? Wouldn't you consider the fact that we've been gaining jobs for 2 and a half years forward movement?

Thats a loaded question designed for one particular answer. You keep mentioning "gaining jobs" its the slowest growth rate we could possibly have. Its not something to "brag" about. Its an indicator he isnt getting us out of it.

 

[mr2shim]

Thats a loaded question designed for one particular answer. You keep mentioning "gaining jobs" its the slowest growth rate we could possibly have. Its not something to "brag" about. Its an indicator he isnt getting us out of it.

It's not a loaded question. You say you want progress, he gives you progress then you say it's not good enough. The fact is Republicans can't be pleased. If Septembers job report is 200,000 Republicans will say "considering August that's not that great"

You're a bunch of pessimistic assholes who do nothing but harm this Country.

 

[beenthere]

There's a difference between "hitting bottom" and "bottoming out" as in "it bottomed out in 2009 but luckily we didn't hit bottom"

LOL We're talking economic recessions and depressions Sparky, semantics won't help your weak argument. One cannot even claim we hit bottom during the Great depression.
Cmon, this is a simple one.

 

[althor]

One thing this board has shown me...

The "peace and love" party isnt very peaceful and loving.

I guess following the WARMONGER Obama has changed the left's stance on "peace and love".

I have never seen so much name calling and just hate, that I have seen coming from the Dems.

Hell, even the spot in DC that used to be filled with war protesters is now virtually empty. Obama is definitely making changes.

 

[beenthere]

Ok, let's pretend for a minute the great depression wasn't bottom. Are we better off today than when Obama took office as far as job creation vs losing jobs. Meaning, are we gaining more jobs in 2012 than we were 2009? How do you define progress? Isn't it a forward movement? Wouldn't you consider the fact that we've been gaining jobs for 2 and a half years forward movement?

How's this.

Are we economically better off now than we were in 2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 ?
Recessions are a typical part of our economy. When we find ourselves in an economic downturn during a presidential election cycle we elect a president to help us recover, whether you will admit it or not, this president has failed to do his job, it's that simple!

 

[mr2shim]

How's this.

Are we economically better off now than we were in 2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 ?
Recessions are a typical part of our economy. When we find ourselves in an economic downturn during a presidential election cycle we elect a president to help us recover, whether you will admit it or not, this president has failed to do his job, it's that simple!

What job has he failed at doing? You never explain. Is it failing at turning the economy around? Well that can't be so because the economy IS turning around. So I ask you, what exactly has he failed at?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

What job has he failed at doing? You never explain. Is it failing at turning the economy around? Well that can't be so because the economy IS turning's d around. So I ask you, what exactly has he failed at?

Obama has created more minimum wage jobs. What happens if two minimum wage jobs don't equal or better one lost? What happens when a job's gain doesn t at least the rate of inflation?

I'll clue you in, the real job rate has then decreased due to a phenomena known as stagflation and under-employment. This is just as bad or worse than losing actual jobs.

In short, you could theoretically have every potential working person, work, but still not reach full-enjoyment. It would be stupid to brag about this.

 

[mr2shim]

Obama has created more minimum wage jobs. What happens if two minimum wage jobs don't equal or better one lost? What happens when a job's gain doesn t at least the rate of inflation?

I'll clue you in, the real job rate has then decreased due to a phenomena known as stagflation and under-employment. This is just as bad or worse than losing actual jobs.

In short, you could theoretically have every potential working person, work, but still not reach full-enjoyment. It would be stupid to brag about this.

Pretty sure Obama isn't in charge of what Employers are willing to pay someone. But you can blame him for that too.

 

[Grandpapy]

How's this.

Are we economically better off now than we were in 2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 ?
Recessions are a typical part of our economy. When we find ourselves in an economic downturn during a presidential election cycle we elect a president to help us recover, whether you will admit it or not, this president has failed to do his job, it's that simple!

One thing he didn't do was mis-place 3.2 trillion.

 

[NoDrama]

Definitely don't get jobs. Despite every month for the past 2 and a half years we've added jobs not lost.

no, not really. 2.6 million marginalized workers are not counted in the unemployment rate. Lets also not forget that they revise DOWNWARD the estimates from last month by 20,000. Making this months gain in employment an actual 78,000 people. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

BUT that isn't all, because if you look at the BLS Death/Birth Model you see they "Guessed" 87,000 jobs were 'born' anew. http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

The entire job gain was "Guessed" into existence.

add 2.6 mill to the number of unemployed of 12.5 million and you get 15.1 million unemployed. The work force is a total of 154.6 million so this 15.1 million is an actual rate of 9.8% unemployment.

To this number we could also add the 8 million people who are working part time, but want to work full time, so lets just half the number people to give us an additional 4 million unemployed to the numbers making the real Unemployment situation a 12.4% figure.

They play these games over and over, been doin it since time began.

Here is the truth of the whole month of August:

Both the civilian labor force (154.6 million) and the labor force participation rate (63.5 percent) declined in August.

Labor force participation went DOWN!! Which means that less people are working in August than were working in July. How do you have less people working if you are adding jobs?

Its all just smoke and mirrors mon frere.

 

[mr2shim]

no, not really. 2.6 million marginalized workers are not counted in the unemployment rate. Lets also not forget that they revise DOWNWARD the estimates from last month by 20,000. Making this months gain in employment an actual 78,000 people. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

BUT that isn't all, because if you look at the BLS Death/Birth Model you see they "Guessed" 87,000 jobs were 'born' anew. http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

The entire job gain was "Guessed" into existence.

add 2.6 mill to the number of unemployed of 12.5 million and you get 15.1 million unemployed. The work force is a total of 154.6 million so this 15.1 million is an actual rate of 9.8% unemployment.

To this number we could also add the 8 million people who are working part time, but want to work full time, so lets just half the number people to give us an additional 4 million unemployed to the numbers making the real Unemployment situation a 12.4% figure.

They play these games over and over, been doin it since time began.

Here is the truth of the whole month of August:



Labor force participation went DOWN!! Which means that less people are working in August than were working in July. How do you have less people working if you are adding jobs?

Its all just smoke and mirrors mon frere.

So mittens is going to fix all of this? You really believe that? and you think I'm ignorant? I need to buy you a mirror.

 

[budlover13]

Pretty sure Obama isn't in charge of what Employers are willing to pay someone. But you can blame him for that too.

He can't take credit for creating the jobs without taking credit for the type of jobs they are imo.

 

[canndo]

One thing this board has shown me...

The "peace and love" party isnt very peaceful and loving.

I guess following the WARMONGER Obama has changed the left's stance on "peace and love".

I have never seen so much name calling and just hate, that I have seen coming from the Dems.

Hell, even the spot in DC that used to be filled with war protesters is now virtually empty. Obama is definitely making changes.

That's right Althor, Obama caused all of this hatred right? Arn't you the same fella that blamed Obama for your not hiring?

It's all Obama's fault.