250w HPS Club And Help Guide

[10acjed]

Don't believe breeder times unless you start the timing from the first bud set, which is usually around 2-2.5 weeks into bloom. This is why a general rule of thumb is whatever the breeder time is, add two weeks. That way you get a hell of a lot closer to a finished plant. Now this doesn't always work as there are different phenos in strains yada yada, but it'll get you closer to where you want to be as far as finishing times are concerned.

Not sure what you're working with as far as soil/hydro, setup etc. However I'll help as much as I can if you give me some info.

Yeah I am going by first budset not switching... Its midway through week 8 of an 8 - 10 week strain...

Only issue is breeder is unknown, got lucky and found 3 seeds in a z i got. Supposedly its Bruce Banner # 3, but cant be 100%.. So best thing I can go on is trichs.. Looks are decieving, the yellow leaves are from nute burn, not maturity.. Beginner mistakes...

 

[Dr. Kundilini]

Hey clubbers it's been awhile, been absent but busy.

So a well due update....

I'm running SoG this time around, 6 BW in bloom, 6 more BW going into bloom on the 15th to start perpetual. Also have 3 mothers now, and switched my tents around. The line up is BW, NLxBB, and BBG.

The strain in the pics is BW, (Blue widow for the newer members). They are about 3 1/2 weeks, so I figured to share. Only bloom pics, because well.... veg is boring lol.

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Lovely ladies you have there, Doobieus. Looking frosty at 3 1/2 weeks. Beautyliscious. This obviously isn't your first rodeo. Allow me to introduce myself, a noob to inside gardens, first inside grow last year. I have grown outside on a small scale for personal use since 1967, so that makes me old as a Dinosaur. Learned a lot reading in RIU, and from the good people in the 250W club, so hoping I don't make as many mistakes as last year. Welcome back, your rep proceeds you.

 

[Doobieus]

Sup Doobieus nice to see you around.

Nice to be around lol and thanks Ace .

Yeah I am going by first budset not switching... Its midway through week 8 of an 8 - 10 week strain...

Only issue is breeder is unknown, got lucky and found 3 seeds in a z i got. Supposedly its Bruce Banner # 3, but cant be 100%.. So best thing I can go on is trichs.. Looks are decieving, the yellow leaves are from nute burn, not maturity.. Beginner mistakes...

Strawberry D x OGK, well she's gotta be taking on the SD more imho. A good visual to check on top of trichomes is the pistils and calyxes. Towards the end you will get a final swell (most don''t get that far or notice), when this happens your pistils will recede into the calyxes because of the calyxes swelling over. It's a very good indicator of maturity, if you know what to look for.

As far as nute burn, Clearex or DIY Clearex is your best bet for flushing those babies out. It is my friend, your friend and every grower's friend lol.

We all started somewhere, no problem being a beginner. Imho everyone will always be a beginner in some shape or form, growing is an art. Art is always changing, evolving and we all know you cannot master something that continuously changes .

Lovely ladies you have there, Doobieus. Looking frosty at 3 1/2 weeks. Beautyliscious. This obviously isn't your first rodeo. Allow me to introduce myself, a noob to inside gardens, first inside grow last year. I have grown outside on a small scale for personal use since 1967, so that makes me old as a Dinosaur. Learned a lot reading in RIU, and from the good people in the 250W club, so hoping I don't make as many mistakes as last year. Welcome back, your rep proceeds you.

Hello Dr. welcome firstly and secondly nice quote you have, fan of poetry I'm assuming?

No this is not my first rodeo, or my last lol. Thank you for the kind words, especially coming from someone with loads more years under their belt than I. No I'm not calling you old either lol. Hope to see some great stuff from you. As always if you ever need advice just ask, I try to answer everyone's questions to the best of my ability and experience. I'm sure you're golden, but you never know little things here and there do pop up at times.

My rep precedes me? Wow making me blush there Doc, that is quite flattering lol.

 

[Hettyman]

Towards the end you will get a final swell (most don''t get that far or notice), when this happens your pistils will recede into the calyxes because of the calyxes swelling over. It's a very good indicator of maturity, if you know what to look for.

Yeah but when you do actually wait those extra 10-14 days, you definitly see the difference

 

[10acjed]

Strawberry D x OGK, well she's gotta be taking on the SD more imho. A good visual to check on top of trichomes is the pistils and calyxes. Towards the end you will get a final swell (most don''t get that far or notice), when this happens your pistils will recede into the calyxes because of the calyxes swelling over. It's a very good indicator of maturity, if you know what to look for.

As far as nute burn, Clearex or DIY Clearex is your best bet for flushing those babies out. It is my friend, your friend and every grower's friend lol.

We all started somewhere, no problem being a beginner. Imho everyone will always be a beginner in some shape or form, growing is an art. Art is always changing, evolving and we all know you cannot master something that continuously changes .

Thanks man. Yeah I had some issues early on not having a Ph meter, then when I tried to correct it I was over zelous and brought it up to high. I use str8 fox farm ocean forest, and using the floranova nutes..

They are close, the calyxs are swelling.. couple more days I think...

 

[Hettyman]

Hey Dr Kundi, how's it going??

I was in my Hydro shop (on the south coast, half way up a hill) yesterday, and a guy about 60 years old was buying a couple of 250 bulbs. I remember thinking to myself "old school hippy, prob grown in his garden for years and now updating" and hoping that turn out like that in 30 years. Don't suppose it's a really small world, and that was you??

 

[10acjed]

Well I cut a little bud off the one I posted the pics of, the calyxs are pretty fat. Going to see what it tastes like tomorrow and decide whether or not to chop. Probably going to chop the rest of the other one too, she looks just as mature.

The other one I will posts some pics of and see what you guys think. I may have messed her up tho. I was thinking that she was going to be ready but the calyxs really didnt fill in yet. I had stopped the nutes and flushed, then was starving her a bit thinking it was time to chop. Now all the leaves are brown n crisp, but there has not been any swelling and the trichs are not as noticable on the buds..



Really ready to clean up everything and start from scratch with my Wonder Womans. New Ph Pen is here today, def not going to mess with anything. Ph will be 6.5 all the way through, and a simple schedule.

 

[Hettyman]

The taste will be horrible tommorrow and still taste of plant if only quick dried over night. Flavours don't come out till day 5 or 6 drying.

If you have run them low on nutes to the point of damage, i'm pretty sure it'll taste ok when dried

 

[RCgrowerman]

Well I cut a little bud off the one I posted the pics of, the calyxs are pretty fat. Going to see what it tastes like tomorrow and decide whether or not to chop. Probably going to chop the rest of the other one too, she looks just as mature.

The other one I will posts some pics of and see what you guys think. I may have messed her up tho. I was thinking that she was going to be ready but the calyxs really didnt fill in yet. I had stopped the nutes and flushed, then was starving her a bit thinking it was time to chop. Now all the leaves are brown n crisp, but there has not been any swelling and the trichs are not as noticable on the buds..



Really ready to clean up everything and start from scratch with my Wonder Womans. New Ph Pen is here today, def not going to mess with anything. Ph will be 6.5 all the way through, and a simple schedule.

Hope you enjoy the convenience and accuracy of your pen as much as I do mine

 

[10acjed]

The taste will be horrible tommorrow and still taste of plant if only quick dried over night. Flavours don't come out till day 5 or 6 drying.

If you have run them low on nutes to the point of damage, i'm pretty sure it'll taste ok when dried

Thats what my first cut tastes like... 22g of it.. grrr.... Dried it 6 days, was too long buds are all crispy n dry.

Have a box all set up for this time tho, small 8" fan to pull air, then jars for curing.

I had picked a little bud of the other small one that I cut the tops on already, took 2 days and it was dry enough to smoke, tasted decent at first, and a little better today after sitting in a jar over night.
This one wasnt run low and damaged, just some effects of the nute issues throughout its life..

Going to give a good look with the scope and decide in the morn what to do.. But most likely will be chopping her down i think.

 

[Doobieus]

Thought this might help our newer growers. Have fun, and you're welcome . You'll eventually be able to do it by eye and feel, this will help you understand/experience what you're looking for so you can. One thing though, when it says 55-60% make sure to start lowering the rh between these %'s. You can go drier dependent on your taste, just do it slowly.

This method is particularly effective for folks who are starting out, those looking to maximize quality in a shorter period of time, and folks who's like to produce a connoisseur-quality product each and every time with no guesswork involved.

It's a very simple and effective process:

Cut the product, trim it per your preference, but don't dry it until the stems snap. Take it down while the stems still have some flex, but the product feel dry on the outside. This is a perfect opportunity to drop the dry-feeling flowers onto a screen and collect prime-quality kief that would otherwise get lost in the jar.

Jar the product, along with a Caliber III hygrometer. One can be had on Ebay for ~$20. Having tested a number of hygrometers - digital and analog - this model in particular produced consistent, accurate results. Then, watch the readings:

+70% RH - too wet, needs to sit outside the jar to dry for 12-24 hours, depending.

65-70% RH - the product is almost in the cure zone, if you will. It can be slowly brought to optimum RH by opening the lid for 2-4 hours.

60-65% RH - the stems snap, the product feels a bit sticky, and it is curing.

55-60% RH - at this point it can be stored for an extended period (3 months or more) without worrying about mold. The product will continue to cure.

Below 55% RH - the RH is too low for the curing process to take place. The product starts to feel brittle. Once you've hit this point, nothing will make it better. Adding moisture won't restart the curing process; it will just make the product wet. If you measure a RH below 55% don't panic. Read below:

Obviously, the product need time to sweat in the jar. As such, accurate readings won't be seen for ~24 hours, assuming the flowers are in the optimal cure zone. If you're curing the product for long-term storage, give the flowers 4-5 days for an accurate reading. If the product is sill very wet, a +70% RH reading will show within hours. If you see the RH rising ~1% per hour, keep a close eye on the product, as it's likely too moist.

 

[Hettyman]

That is really really helpful, thank you, even if you are stealing someone else's work

 

[Doobieus]

That is really really helpful, thank you, even if you are stealing someone else's work

I don't consider it stealing when I quoted the user name, which in turn gives credit to the og author. Hence why I quoted it, I just added my personal .02 to it. You're welcome though.

 

[Hettyman]

10acjed, sounds like maybe the room the drying box was in was too hot?? We had a heat wave in the UK recently, and I had real efforts keeping the room in my house cool. From memory 17-18 centigrade is spot on, less then 15 is high chance of mould/rott, and over 20 is a bit too hot and quick drying. Most of my harvests at these temps have been about spot on after 6-7 days, with just a little moisture inside for jar curing. However some growers leave there plants with no water for the last week or so.

What I do love about budd is how good it gets in the couple of days it goes from still being plant life to nearly dried budd

 

[Hettyman]

I don't consider it stealing when I quoted the user name, which in turn gives credit to the og author. Hence why I quoted it, I just added my personal .02 to it. You're welcome though.

I know I know, I get you were openly sharing his knowledge, not stealing...jus messin.

I have to admit, I'm pretty sure you've helped on my posts earlier in my grow career, but with a different avatar

 

[Doobieus]

I know I know, I get you were openly sharing his knowledge, not stealing...jus messin.

I have to admit, I'm pretty sure you've helped on my posts earlier in my grow career, but with a different avatar

Lol good deal, my bad.

Well I've only had 3 main avatars, Edward scissorhands, caddyshack gopher behind buds (made that gif), and this Ted one (made this gif too).

I may have not sure though, I've helped or least think I've helped a lot of people over the years. Plus my memory sucks lol, I can't even remember where I put my damn lighter half the time. Really puts a downer when you're trying to get ripped lol.

Hopefully I helped you out lol, if it was me though.

 

[Hettyman]

Definitely the caddy shack gopher and budds. Funnily enough, II watched that film on tele this week, and didn't laugh once, the whole way through...I guess some things just don't hold up over time.

Thats why you need at least 3 lighters at any one time, so as you wander round smoking, and putting them down, you soon end up stumbling across one rather then spend ages hunting round, getting frustrated and killing the buzz derived from the first half of your unlit joint

 

[Hettyman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mFyBxldl-Q (skip to 1:20) that's what you get for stealing the life out of my plants!! I have some of these on order and can't wait

 

[cbtbudz]

now that was some shit.very nice.

 

[ace720]

Hey how is everyone ? Just stopping by to say hi.